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Is our children learning?

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  • George KG George K

    (it's the Daily Mail)

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11867119/Oregon-high-school-sparks-fury-asking-students-write-x-rated-sexual-fantasy.html

    A high school in Oregon has sparked outrage after a teacher asked students to write about their 'sexual fantasy' including three items like candles, massage oil or feathers.

    Health class students at Churchill High School in Eugene were asked to make up for missed coursework by completing a 10-point assignment titled 'Fantasy Story'.

    The assignment reads: 'For those students who were absent, you will write a short story of a paragraph or two. This story is a sexual fantasy that will have NO penetration of any kind or oral sex (no way of passing an STI).

    'Your story should show that you can show and receive loving physical affection without having sex.'

    Teacher Kirk Miller gave students the assignment via Canvas, an online learning management system, and also asked them to choose three items, such as candles, massage oil, feathers and flavoured syrup, to use in their stories.

    After the assignment was posted to a Facebook group, it received hundreds of comments from parents.

    One said: 'If an adult male asked my daughter to share her sexual fantasies with him, I would be livid and be going to the police. No teacher has any business asking this of a child.'

    Katherine Rogers, whose 16-year-old daughter is in Mr Millers' class, said students felt 'mortified, awkward and creeped out' after they were given the assignment.

    She said some students chose to respond to the fantasy assignment from the point of a view of a character in the cartoon 'Kung Fu Panda' to avoid being too personal.

    Ah, the kids are 16. So, presumably that's OK.

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    @George-K said in Is our children learning?:

    One said: 'If an adult male asked my daughter to share her sexual fantasies with him, I would be livid and be going to the police.

    I would go to the police as well. To turn myself in for charges of assault…

    Why did they comment “Adult male” ? Would it be better if it was an adult female?

    The Brad

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      This Miller creep needs to be fired.

      Fired.

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      • Catseye3C Catseye3

        This Miller creep needs to be fired.

        Fired.

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        @Catseye3 said in Is our children learning?:

        This Miller creep needs to be fired.

        Fired.

        Catseye, he was just teaching the curriculum, he did not create the assignment.

        https://www.kezi.com/news/more-controversial-assignments-in-churchill-high-schools-health-class-cause-increased-outrage/article_f6225688-c20b-11ed-b52d-cf59f8c30c59.html

        https://www.foxnews.com/media/unitarian-universalist-church-distances-itself-from-controversial-sexual-fantasy-school-assignment

        The Brad

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          Sexual behavior is not what we send kids to learn.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @Catseye3 said in Is our children learning?:

            This Miller creep needs to be fired.

            Fired.

            Catseye, he was just teaching the curriculum, he did not create the assignment.

            https://www.kezi.com/news/more-controversial-assignments-in-churchill-high-schools-health-class-cause-increased-outrage/article_f6225688-c20b-11ed-b52d-cf59f8c30c59.html

            https://www.foxnews.com/media/unitarian-universalist-church-distances-itself-from-controversial-sexual-fantasy-school-assignment

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            @LuFins-Dad said in Is our children learning?:

            Catseye, he was just teaching the curriculum, he did not create the assignment.

            George's article had this: "The assignment reads: 'For those students who were absent, you will write a short story of a paragraph or two. This story is a sexual fantasy that will have NO penetration of any kind or oral sex (no way of passing an STI).

            "Teacher Kirk Miller gave students the assignment via Canvas, . . . and also asked them to choose three items, such as candles, massage oil, feathers and flavoured syrup, to use in their stories."

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              Not to mention it’s discriminatory- what about those of us who can’t show affection without sexual intercourse?

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Not to mention it’s discriminatory- what about those of us who can’t show affection without sexual intercourse?

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                @jon-nyc said in Is our children learning?:

                Not to mention it’s discriminatory- what about those of us who can’t show affection without sexual intercourse?

                Seriously. Why not just write a story about kissing your sister?

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • Catseye3C Catseye3

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Is our children learning?:

                  Catseye, he was just teaching the curriculum, he did not create the assignment.

                  George's article had this: "The assignment reads: 'For those students who were absent, you will write a short story of a paragraph or two. This story is a sexual fantasy that will have NO penetration of any kind or oral sex (no way of passing an STI).

                  "Teacher Kirk Miller gave students the assignment via Canvas, . . . and also asked them to choose three items, such as candles, massage oil, feathers and flavoured syrup, to use in their stories."

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                  @Catseye3 said in Is our children learning?:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Is our children learning?:

                  Catseye, he was just teaching the curriculum, he did not create the assignment.

                  George's article had this: "The assignment reads: 'For those students who were absent, you will write a short story of a paragraph or two. This story is a sexual fantasy that will have NO penetration of any kind or oral sex (no way of passing an STI).

                  "Teacher Kirk Miller gave students the assignment via Canvas, . . . and also asked them to choose three items, such as candles, massage oil, feathers and flavoured syrup, to use in their stories."

                  Yes, it was a makeup assignment, but that assignment is still part of the curriculum. Seriously. Read up about OWL. The Unitarian Church is stating that it was an out of date book and the teacher wasn’t trained on how to present the material, but that sounds like CYA to me.

                  The Brad

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                  • George KG George K

                    As a side note, it's funny how LoTT gets vilified for these tweets. All she does is post things that are factual - with screenshots, videos and retweets. Look at her interaction with AOC last week.

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                    @George-K said in Is our children learning?:

                    As a side note, it's funny how LoTT gets vilified for these tweets. All she does is post things that are factual - with screenshots, videos and retweets. Look at her interaction with AOC last week.

                    The Brad

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                    • Catseye3C Catseye3

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Is our children learning?:

                      Catseye, he was just teaching the curriculum, he did not create the assignment.

                      George's article had this: "The assignment reads: 'For those students who were absent, you will write a short story of a paragraph or two. This story is a sexual fantasy that will have NO penetration of any kind or oral sex (no way of passing an STI).

                      "Teacher Kirk Miller gave students the assignment via Canvas, . . . and also asked them to choose three items, such as candles, massage oil, feathers and flavoured syrup, to use in their stories."

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                      @Catseye3 said in Is our children learning?:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Is our children learning?:

                      Catseye, he was just teaching the curriculum, he did not create the assignment.

                      George's article had this: "The assignment reads: 'For those students who were absent, you will write a short story of a paragraph or two. This story is a sexual fantasy that will have NO penetration of any kind or oral sex (no way of passing an STI).

                      "Teacher Kirk Miller gave students the assignment via Canvas, . . . and also asked them to choose three items, such as candles, massage oil, feathers and flavoured syrup, to use in their stories."

                      I understand some healthy skepticism, but this stuff is being fought out in schoolboards across the nation. I live in the buckle of the Bible Belt and we had groomers decrying the removal of some books from school libraries.

                      They got heard and then they were ignored. As parents said...You want your child to wallow in crap, buy it for them yourselves.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @Catseye3 said in Is our children learning?:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Is our children learning?:

                        Catseye, he was just teaching the curriculum, he did not create the assignment.

                        George's article had this: "The assignment reads: 'For those students who were absent, you will write a short story of a paragraph or two. This story is a sexual fantasy that will have NO penetration of any kind or oral sex (no way of passing an STI).

                        "Teacher Kirk Miller gave students the assignment via Canvas, . . . and also asked them to choose three items, such as candles, massage oil, feathers and flavoured syrup, to use in their stories."

                        I understand some healthy skepticism, but this stuff is being fought out in schoolboards across the nation. I live in the buckle of the Bible Belt and we had groomers decrying the removal of some books from school libraries.

                        They got heard and then they were ignored. As parents said...You want your child to wallow in crap, buy it for them yourselves.

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                        @Jolly said in Is our children learning?:

                        I understand some healthy skepticism, but this stuff is being fought out in schoolboards across the nation. I live in the buckle of the Bible Belt and we had groomers decrying the removal of some books from school libraries.
                        They got heard and then they were ignored. As parents said...You want your child to wallow in crap, buy it for them yourselves.

                        Okay, this is confusing . . . the quote you're responding to here is what I posted to answer a point Lufin made believing I had misunderstood something. A clarification IOW. I wasn't making any point of my own.

                        Might not be worth clarifying.

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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