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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #19

    How on earth did I avoid it? I strongly believe it would be illegal. The legal podcasts I listen to think so. The scotus precedent was out of Illinois, IIRC the case had the word O’Hare in the title. I’m pretty sure it would protect your hypothetical company and I’m pretty sure it would protect Disney.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      How on earth did I avoid it? I strongly believe it would be illegal. The legal podcasts I listen to think so. The scotus precedent was out of Illinois, IIRC the case had the word O’Hare in the title. I’m pretty sure it would protect your hypothetical company and I’m pretty sure it would protect Disney.

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      Horace
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      @jon-nyc said in Disney 1, DeSantis 0:

      How on earth did I avoid it? I strongly believe it would be illegal. The legal podcasts I listen to think so. The scotus precedent was out of Illinois, IIRC the case had the word O’Hare in the title. I’m pretty sure it would protect your hypothetical company and I’m pretty sure it would protect Disney.

      No. I'm wondering if you would have an issue if a private company in California, with an established business relationship with the state, decided to come out as conservative, anti-gay-marriage, and anti-abortion, what would you think about the government of California adjusting the business relationships with that company, within the law?

      Oh, now you're pretending you're gonna be the guy to use that as a cudgel here on TNCR? Really? Because the rest of us are probably not buying that...

      Education is extremely important.

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        jon-nyc
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        #21

        You forget who you’re speaking to and/or have developed more outgroup homogeneity bias.

        I’m even against boycotts in general, and of course am against state punishment of companies for their political positions. I’m the one always lamenting the eroding political DMZ

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          You forget who you’re speaking to and/or have developed more outgroup homogeneity bias.

          I’m even against boycotts in general, and of course am against state punishment of companies for their political positions. I’m the one always lamenting the eroding political DMZ

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          @jon-nyc said in Disney 1, DeSantis 0:

          You forget who you’re speaking to and/or have developed more outgroup homogeneity bias.

          I’m even against boycotts in general, and of course am against state punishment of companies for their political positions. I’m the one always lamenting the eroding political DMZ

          I don't actually forget who I'm speaking to. In fact I know exactly who I'm speaking to. The causes and results. The guy who literally finds it insufferable to be deconstructed. I'm speaking to a person I understand.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            #23

            Apparently not.

            But I do understand you. We both know Horace 1.0 would call me drunk with fawning praise. Am I all that different now?

            I remember the very moment you changed your tune about me. Do you?

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Apparently not.

              But I do understand you. We both know Horace 1.0 would call me drunk with fawning praise. Am I all that different now?

              I remember the very moment you changed your tune about me. Do you?

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              @jon-nyc said in Disney 1, DeSantis 0:

              Apparently not.

              But I do understand you. We both know Horace 1.0 would call me drunk with fawning praise. Am I all that different now?

              I remember the very moment you changed your tune about me. Do you?

              You don't really have the resources to have this conversation.

              Wait, you think I care what the very moment was that I changed my tune about you, a typical social climber with a high IQ who cares foremost about winning personally? Which point was that, little guy?

              Education is extremely important.

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                I thought you would remember, but it would take a degree of self-awareness that eludes you.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Apparently not.

                  But I do understand you. We both know Horace 1.0 would call me drunk with fawning praise. Am I all that different now?

                  I remember the very moment you changed your tune about me. Do you?

                  jon-nycJ Online
                  jon-nycJ Online
                  jon-nyc
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                  @jon-nyc said in Disney 1, DeSantis 0:

                  Apparently not.

                  But I do understand you. We both know Horace 1.0 would call me drunk with fawning praise. Am I all that different now?

                  Did my IQ change since then? My social climbing abilities? My desire to win? Because your attitude to me really has.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    @jon-nyc said in Disney 1, DeSantis 0:

                    Apparently not.

                    But I do understand you. We both know Horace 1.0 would call me drunk with fawning praise. Am I all that different now?

                    Did my IQ change since then? My social climbing abilities? My desire to win? Because your attitude to me really has.

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                    @jon-nyc said in Disney 1, DeSantis 0:

                    @jon-nyc said in Disney 1, DeSantis 0:

                    Apparently not.

                    But I do understand you. We both know Horace 1.0 would call me drunk with fawning praise. Am I all that different now?

                    Did my IQ change since then? My social climbing abilities? My desire to win? Because your attitude to me really has.

                    I don't always say what I understand.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      jon-nyc
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                      #28

                      You spent a lot of time seeking my approval before turning on a dime and deciding I was the enemy.

                      I’m sure everyone here noticed it. Many have commented about it to me, both in person and via dm.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        You spent a lot of time seeking my approval before turning on a dime and deciding I was the enemy.

                        I’m sure everyone here noticed it. Many have commented about it to me, both in person and via dm.

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                        @jon-nyc said in Disney 1, DeSantis 0:

                        You spent a lot of time seeking my approval before turning on a dime and deciding I was the enemy.

                        I’m sure everyone here noticed it. Many have commented.

                        I'm not even sure what that means. I guess there's some people here who would vote for you over me. I'm not sure it's the majority, and actually I think it would be depressing to put it to the test. I personally would find it to be too highly correlated with IQ.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          @jon-nyc said in Disney 1, DeSantis 0:

                          You spent a lot of time seeking my approval before turning on a dime and deciding I was the enemy.

                          I’m sure everyone here noticed it. Many have commented.

                          I'm not even sure what that means. I guess there's some people here who would vote for you over me. I'm not sure it's the majority, and actually I think it would be depressing to put it to the test. I personally would find it to be too highly correlated with IQ.

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                          jon-nyc
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                          #30

                          It's not a question of voting and taking sides, someone could think you're the cat's meow and still have noticed your change toward me. Or vice-versa.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            It's not a question of voting and taking sides, someone could think you're the cat's meow and still have noticed your change toward me. Or vice-versa.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Disney 1, DeSantis 0:

                            It's not a question of voting and taking sides, someone could think you're the cat's meow and still have noticed your change toward me. Or vice-versa.

                            My change towards you might have mirrored your disgust reflex towards my parents.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • jon-nycJ Online
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                              jon-nyc
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                              #32

                              I've never made a single comment about them other than wishing them well when your dad got covid.

                              I also bet they're a lot like my parents were - midwestern, conservative, and middle class.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                I've never made a single comment about them other than wishing them well when your dad got covid.

                                I also bet they're a lot like my parents were - midwestern, conservative, and middle class.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Disney 1, DeSantis 0:

                                I've never made a single comment about them other than wishing them well when your dad got covid.

                                I also bet they're a lot like my parents were - midwestern, conservative, and middle class.

                                It was the class you elucidated as the haters. The haters of people like you.

                                You pursue the top. You are uncomfortable being somewhere other than the top. It's a feedback loop. And it's not possible that social factors are not at play.

                                My father went to his bed not caring about whether he was at the top. It's actually not important, except for the people who think it's important.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  #34

                                  Contempt vs resentment is how I've characterized the asymmetry of the animosity between the two tribes, generalizing of course.

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    @Horace It seems unlikely, which is why I thought Disney would just take this to court earlier.

                                    But it's not a trivial resemblance - what you describe is true of any and all politicians. What these two have in common is they both like to use state power to punish private entities they don't like, and have proposed permanent structures where they would have continuous leverage over such entities, in order to keep them in line in an ongoing manner. The only differences are the companies and the definitions of 'in line'.

                                    THat's not something you can say about every politician.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Disney 1, DeSantis 0:

                                    What these two have in common is they both like to use state power to punish private entities they don't like,

                                    We talking about Fat Alvin and who else?

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      https://www.reuters.com/world/us/florida-board-says-it-discovers-another-11th-hour-agreement-with-disney-2023-04-19/

                                      ... new oversight board has discovered another “11th hour agreement” that allows Walt Disney Co to set its own utility rates at its Orlando theme parks, the board’s chairman said on Wednesday. ...

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                                        https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/18/chris-christie-ron-desantis-disney-00092505

                                        Republicans pile on DeSantis over Disney

                                        “I don’t think Ron DeSantis is a conservative, based on his actions towards Disney,” Chris Christie said.
                                        ...

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                                          “Look, this has gone from kind of going after a headline to something that has devolved into an issue, and it convolutes the entire Republican message,” Sununu said on CNN on Monday night. “I just don’t think — it’s not good for Governor DeSantis. I don’t think it’s good for the Republican party.”

                                          Sounds about right.

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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