The Copycats

[Jolly]

If a shooting occurred, you'd know. it would be plastered all over the news media.

Therefore, no shootings.

[jon-nyc]

We can be certain no armed teacher or administrator has intervened and popped a cap in some school shooters head. We cannot know if a teacher was armed in any of the schools.

[Jolly]

And again, point out to me where a school shooting has taken place in a school where the teachers are armed.

[jon-nyc]

Nice try Dude. You don’t get to set the null hypothesis. You made a claim that you pulled either straight out of your ass or, same fucking thing, from maga media.

You simple cannot know, nor can I, and most importantly, neither can the shooter.

[Jolly]

Quit playing dumb bastard.

You know that if teachers
are carrying within a school, it's something that has to be publicly approved by the local school board and powers that be.

You just don't like it, that you can't come up with an example to prove me wrong.

Chaps your ass, doesn't it?

[jon-nyc]

Depends on the state, check my link. Some states concealed carry simply applies schools same as any other public place.

[Jolly]

Usually, there is a lot of difference between simple concealed carry and teachers carrying weapons at school. In my state, concealed carry for individuals is banned on school grounds, with the exception of teachers, if the local school board allows it.

That's pretty common among the states that allow teachers to carry. The school board sets the parameters for who shall be armed and what level of training they shall receive.

Typically, firearms education and proficiency is about on par with the local sheriff's department, with the designated teachers cycling through the sheriff's office for training.

So it's no KGB/CIA deep secret that some teachers or administrative staff at Little Jon's school are armed.

[taiwan_girl]

@Jolly said in The Copycats:

Just an observation:

Number of schools with armed teachers that have been attacked = 0.

You like statistics. What does that tell you?

Supposedly, there were at least two armed staff members at the Nashville school.

I think you need to change your number to = 1

"A person calling 911 from under a desk inside The Covenant School during Monday's shooting told police dispatch that the school had staff that carried firearms."

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/crime/2023/03/30/nashville-shooting-latest-news-audrey-hale-covenant-school-updates/70053945007/

Sorry, but arming teachers is not the answer.

[Jolly]

Read your own linked article. The 911 caller did not know for sure whether any of the staff were armed or even if the staff that she thought might normally carried firearms were on the school grounds.

Do better.

[jon-nyc]

@Jolly said in The Copycats:

Read your own linked article. The 911 caller did not know for sure whether any of the staff were armed or even if the staff that she thought might normally carried firearms were on the school grounds.

Ha. Now you’re making my argument! You can’t know, I can’t know, and the shooter can’t know.

Do better.

Obvious cope is obvious.

[Jolly]

Nope, ain't backing down. Not yet.

I stand by my statement.

[taiwan_girl]

@Jolly said in The Copycats:

Read your own linked article. The 911 caller did not know for sure whether any of the staff were armed or even if the staff that she thought might normally carried firearms were on the school grounds.

Do better.

I am pretty sure she just didn't make it up. So, she must have knowledge that at some days, staff carried weapons. I am sure she did not personally check each staff member every day, but it would be weird for her to say that to 911 if she didn't have knowledge of it.

[Doctor Phibes]

Not knowing whether teachers are armed isn't the same as saying teachers weren't armed, or for that matter that teachers were armed.

If we don't know something, it should be possible to say that, and not just assume that something we want to be true is true without any evidence. This isn't religion.

[Jolly]

@taiwan_girl said in The Copycats:

@Jolly said in The Copycats:

Read your own linked article. The 911 caller did not know for sure whether any of the staff were armed or even if the staff that she thought might normally carried firearms were on the school grounds.

Do better.

I am pretty sure she just didn't make it up. So, she must have knowledge that at some days, staff carried weapons. I am sure she did not personally check each staff member every day, but it would be weird for her to say that to 911 if she didn't have knowledge of it.

You're still guessing.

[taiwan_girl]

@Jolly said in The Copycats:

@taiwan_girl said in The Copycats:

@Jolly said in The Copycats:

Read your own linked article. The 911 caller did not know for sure whether any of the staff were armed or even if the staff that she thought might normally carried firearms were on the school grounds.

Do better.

I am pretty sure she just didn't make it up. So, she must have knowledge that at some days, staff carried weapons. I am sure she did not personally check each staff member every day, but it would be weird for her to say that to 911 if she didn't have knowledge of it.

You're still guessing.

LOL. I am basing it on the transcript of the 911 call.

However, Did I personally see the staff members. No, I did not.

Still love you Jolly. You always make me think!