The Copycats
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Try common sense, then.
If you're a predator, do you attack a chicken house with no fence and no dog in the yard, or do you attack a chicken house with a snarling dog and a predator-proof fence?
A lot of people hate gun owners, but I don't know of any mass shootings at a gun show, do you?
Maybe it's a simple as why Willie Sutton robbed banks. Maybe people who want to commit mass murder pick places where it's easiest to do...
@Jolly said in The Copycats:
Try common sense, then.
If you're a predator, do you attack a chicken house with no fence and no dog in the yard, or do you attack a chicken house with a snarling dog and a predator-proof fence?
A lot of people hate gun owners, but I don't know of any mass shootings at a gun show, do you?
Maybe it's a simple as why Willie Sutton robbed banks. Maybe people who want to commit mass murder pick places where it's easiest to do...
That's not really true, though. Messed up kids shoot up their own schools. When employees go postal, they shoot up their own offices. That's kind of the point. They don't exactly shop around.
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@Jolly said in The Copycats:
Try common sense, then.
If you're a predator, do you attack a chicken house with no fence and no dog in the yard, or do you attack a chicken house with a snarling dog and a predator-proof fence?
A lot of people hate gun owners, but I don't know of any mass shootings at a gun show, do you?
Maybe it's a simple as why Willie Sutton robbed banks. Maybe people who want to commit mass murder pick places where it's easiest to do...
That's not really true, though. Messed up kids shoot up their own schools. When employees go postal, they shoot up their own offices. That's kind of the point. They don't exactly shop around.
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Copycats:
@Jolly said in The Copycats:
Try common sense, then.
If you're a predator, do you attack a chicken house with no fence and no dog in the yard, or do you attack a chicken house with a snarling dog and a predator-proof fence?
A lot of people hate gun owners, but I don't know of any mass shootings at a gun show, do you?
Maybe it's a simple as why Willie Sutton robbed banks. Maybe people who want to commit mass murder pick places where it's easiest to do...
That's not really true, though. Messed up kids shoot up their own schools. When employees go postal, they shoot up their own offices. That's kind of the point. They don't exactly shop around.
Also, almost of the people doing the shooting expect to die.
There has to be a better solution to this than just having more and more guns.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Copycats:
@Jolly said in The Copycats:
Try common sense, then.
If you're a predator, do you attack a chicken house with no fence and no dog in the yard, or do you attack a chicken house with a snarling dog and a predator-proof fence?
A lot of people hate gun owners, but I don't know of any mass shootings at a gun show, do you?
Maybe it's a simple as why Willie Sutton robbed banks. Maybe people who want to commit mass murder pick places where it's easiest to do...
That's not really true, though. Messed up kids shoot up their own schools. When employees go postal, they shoot up their own offices. That's kind of the point. They don't exactly shop around.
Also, almost of the people doing the shooting expect to die.
There has to be a better solution to this than just having more and more guns.
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Copycats:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Copycats:
@Jolly said in The Copycats:
Try common sense, then.
If you're a predator, do you attack a chicken house with no fence and no dog in the yard, or do you attack a chicken house with a snarling dog and a predator-proof fence?
A lot of people hate gun owners, but I don't know of any mass shootings at a gun show, do you?
Maybe it's a simple as why Willie Sutton robbed banks. Maybe people who want to commit mass murder pick places where it's easiest to do...
That's not really true, though. Messed up kids shoot up their own schools. When employees go postal, they shoot up their own offices. That's kind of the point. They don't exactly shop around.
Also, almost of the people doing the shooting expect to die.
There has to be a better solution to this than just having more and more guns.
Sure. Execute them while young.
Solutions are easy. Execution is hard.
You identify these kids pretty early and treat the mental illness. In the case of the Nashville shooter, they were autistic and transgendered.
Red flag laws. The problem with people who do not support the Second Amendment, is that they will use Red Flag laws as back door gun control and that ain't gonna happen. Therefore, these laws will have to be refined and the end decision will have to be made in court.
You enhance and tighten up mental health. Compassion is fine, but some people don't need to be on the street.
Harden the target. Control entrance and egress points. Metal detectors at those points. All classroom doors should open to a hallway, should have unbreachable locks and have bulletproof glass in the door. And yes, either have armed resource officers or have trained and armed designated teachers.
What have we accomplished?
- We've barney fifed the threat and nipped it in the bud.
- We've controlled some access to weapons.
- We've made a school shooting a losing proposition. It's going to be hard to get your weapon in, it's going to be hard to get to students and the likelihood is that the shooter will be met with lethal force early in his attempted mass murder.
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Try common sense, then.
If you're a predator, do you attack a chicken house with no fence and no dog in the yard, or do you attack a chicken house with a snarling dog and a predator-proof fence?
A lot of people hate gun owners, but I don't know of any mass shootings at a gun show, do you?
Maybe it's a simple as why Willie Sutton robbed banks. Maybe people who want to commit mass murder pick places where it's easiest to do...
There are dozens of states where school staff could be armed. Shootings happen in those states too. Neither you, I, or the shooters have any way of knowing which one might house some armed staff
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@jon-nyc said in The Copycats:
There are dozens of states where school staff could be armed. Shootings happen in those states too. Neither you, I, or the shooters have any way of knowing which one might house some armed staff
As Aqua pointed out, many times the shooter went to the school at one time. I'm not saying all shootings can be prevented by a good guy with a gun. Even the Secret Service will tell you that a dedicated individual willing to lose their life in order to take someone else's, will succeed more often than not.
But good security calls for hardening the target. Armed and immediate response is a layer in the hardening process.
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If a shooting occurred, you'd know. it would be plastered all over the news media.
Therefore, no shootings.
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If a shooting occurred, you'd know. it would be plastered all over the news media.
Therefore, no shootings.
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Quit playing dumb bastard.
You know that if teachers
are carrying within a school, it's something that has to be publicly approved by the local school board and powers that be.You just don't like it, that you can't come up with an example to prove me wrong.
Chaps your ass, doesn't it?
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Usually, there is a lot of difference between simple concealed carry and teachers carrying weapons at school. In my state, concealed carry for individuals is banned on school grounds, with the exception of teachers, if the local school board allows it.
That's pretty common among the states that allow teachers to carry. The school board sets the parameters for who shall be armed and what level of training they shall receive.
Typically, firearms education and proficiency is about on par with the local sheriff's department, with the designated teachers cycling through the sheriff's office for training.
So it's no KGB/CIA deep secret that some teachers or administrative staff at Little Jon's school are armed.
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Just an observation:
Number of schools with armed teachers that have been attacked = 0.
You like statistics. What does that tell you?
@Jolly said in The Copycats:
Just an observation:
Number of schools with armed teachers that have been attacked = 0.
You like statistics. What does that tell you?
Supposedly, there were at least two armed staff members at the Nashville school.
I think you need to change your number to = 1
"A person calling 911 from under a desk inside The Covenant School during Monday's shooting told police dispatch that the school had staff that carried firearms."
Sorry, but arming teachers is not the answer.
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Read your own linked article. The 911 caller did not know for sure whether any of the staff were armed or even if the staff that she thought might normally carried firearms were on the school grounds.
Do better.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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Read your own linked article. The 911 caller did not know for sure whether any of the staff were armed or even if the staff that she thought might normally carried firearms were on the school grounds.
Do better.
@Jolly said in The Copycats:
Read your own linked article. The 911 caller did not know for sure whether any of the staff were armed or even if the staff that she thought might normally carried firearms were on the school grounds.
Ha. Now you’re making my argument! You can’t know, I can’t know, and the shooter can’t know.
Do better.
Obvious cope is obvious.
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Read your own linked article. The 911 caller did not know for sure whether any of the staff were armed or even if the staff that she thought might normally carried firearms were on the school grounds.
Do better.
@Jolly said in The Copycats:
Read your own linked article. The 911 caller did not know for sure whether any of the staff were armed or even if the staff that she thought might normally carried firearms were on the school grounds.
Do better.
I am pretty sure she just didn't make it up. So, she must have knowledge that at some days, staff carried weapons. I am sure she did not personally check each staff member every day, but it would be weird for her to say that to 911 if she didn't have knowledge of it.
