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Scott Adams and Robin DiAngelo

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    Jolly
    wrote on 21 Mar 2023, 12:35 last edited by
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    At a certain level, she's right, but not for the reasons she thinks. People naturally gravitate to other people who look and act like them. Nothing wrong in that.

    If we as a country, would go back to the melting pot theory, and concentrate more on a shared vision of the future and ignore the individual and societal segment identity politics, we'd be better off. Concentrate on addressing and creating equal opportunities and promoting merit as an ideal.

    By emphasizing common ideas and ideals, the edges between social and racial factions will blur. Nothing wrong with that. In fact, that's why the melting pot exists.

    We need to quit using the law as a club to try to beat people together, and concentrate more on making sure Justice is truly blind. Given level fields in law and society, people will eventually find their own equilibrium.

    It won't be perfect. There will continue to be friction and problems. But at least it will be organic and long-term, workable solutions will arise.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      21 Mar 2023, 12:35

      At a certain level, she's right, but not for the reasons she thinks. People naturally gravitate to other people who look and act like them. Nothing wrong in that.

      If we as a country, would go back to the melting pot theory, and concentrate more on a shared vision of the future and ignore the individual and societal segment identity politics, we'd be better off. Concentrate on addressing and creating equal opportunities and promoting merit as an ideal.

      By emphasizing common ideas and ideals, the edges between social and racial factions will blur. Nothing wrong with that. In fact, that's why the melting pot exists.

      We need to quit using the law as a club to try to beat people together, and concentrate more on making sure Justice is truly blind. Given level fields in law and society, people will eventually find their own equilibrium.

      It won't be perfect. There will continue to be friction and problems. But at least it will be organic and long-term, workable solutions will arise.

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      Catseye3
      wrote on 21 Mar 2023, 12:55 last edited by
      #5

      @Jolly said in Scott Adams and Robin DiAngelo:

      concentrate more on making sure Justice is truly blind.

      Good points, Jolly. But what is it the courts are not doing now to make justice truly blind?

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        Jolly
        wrote on 21 Mar 2023, 13:01 last edited by
        #6

        In today's courts, politics and money create advantages and disadvantages.

        As a society, we should strive to level that playing field as much as humanly possible.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • C Catseye3
          21 Mar 2023, 12:55

          @Jolly said in Scott Adams and Robin DiAngelo:

          concentrate more on making sure Justice is truly blind.

          Good points, Jolly. But what is it the courts are not doing now to make justice truly blind?

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 21 Mar 2023, 13:03 last edited by
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          @Catseye3 said in Scott Adams and Robin DiAngelo:

          @Jolly said in Scott Adams and Robin DiAngelo:

          concentrate more on making sure Justice is truly blind.

          Good points, Jolly. But what is it the courts are not doing now to make justice truly blind?

          Check George's myriad of posts about the Chicago courts.

          Please love yourself.

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            21 Mar 2023, 13:01

            In today's courts, politics and money create advantages and disadvantages.

            As a society, we should strive to level that playing field as much as humanly possible.

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            Catseye3
            wrote on 21 Mar 2023, 13:15 last edited by
            #8

            @Jolly said in Scott Adams and Robin DiAngelo:

            As a society, we should strive to level that playing field as much as humanly possible.

            Good luck with that.

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            • C Catseye3
              21 Mar 2023, 13:15

              @Jolly said in Scott Adams and Robin DiAngelo:

              As a society, we should strive to level that playing field as much as humanly possible.

              Good luck with that.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 21 Mar 2023, 14:43 last edited by
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              @Catseye3 said in Scott Adams and Robin DiAngelo:

              @Jolly said in Scott Adams and Robin DiAngelo:

              As a society, we should strive to level that playing field as much as humanly possible.

              Good luck with that.

              The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                George K
                wrote on 25 Mar 2023, 11:44 last edited by
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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  mark
                  wrote on 25 Mar 2023, 15:10 last edited by
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                  Divide and conquer.

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                  • J Jolly
                    21 Mar 2023, 13:01

                    In today's courts, politics and money create advantages and disadvantages.

                    As a society, we should strive to level that playing field as much as humanly possible.

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 25 Mar 2023, 15:35 last edited by
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                    @Jolly said in Scott Adams and Robin DiAngelo:

                    As a society, we should strive to level that playing field as much as humanly possible.

                    That's why we have instant replay.

                    Get rid of it.

                    Let them play.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 26 Mar 2023, 23:08 last edited by
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                      https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/03/the-scott-adams-scandal-in-reverse-proves-our-racial-double-standard/

                      =-=-=-=-=-=
                      So, now we know exactly “what would happen if some liberal said what Scott Adams did.” Nothing at all.

                      As is now almost universally known, on a February 22 episode of his Coffee with Scott Adams podcast, the creator of Dilbert and Dogbert drew fire for engaging in what was widely labeled a racist rant...

                      At the same time, however, several cynical and socially maladjusted right-wingers and centrists — in fact, including moi — could not resist asking: Would there be any penalty at all if a black dude, or purple-haired white “ally,” said the same things with the races reversed? Well, someone did. During a March 1 webinar that seems to have gone viral only recently, “anti-racist educator” Robin DiAngelo advised a Zoom room of minority professionals to “get away from white people and have some community with each other.”...

                      While this has been less widely commented on, the White Fragility author also advocated for the removal of those who do not accept contemporary “woke” ideology from the workforce. “In 2023,” she contended, “we have to see the ability to engage in these conversations . . . as a basic qualification.” Any employees refusing or reluctant to do so are “just simply not qualified [for] today’s workplace.”

                      Unlike Adams, who lost his cartoon empire in two MMMbops and half a Scaramucci, DiAngelo received zero penalty for any of her comments. There was not proportionately less backlash, but rather almost none at all — with the exception of a few online darts from conservative wits such as Chris Rufo. A sober discussion of the seminar in question, from Yahoo News, describes a panel of “diversity, equity, and inclusion consultants” solemnly “[nodding] in agreement” as DiAngelo spoke.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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