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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    On another note, one might think he'd have learned that encouraging protests was not a great strategy.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      @Horace said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

      @Mik said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

      I think they continue making the same mistake as during his term - trying to turn him into the boogeyman. All that does is make him look some perversion of noble and keep him in the public eye.

      He should be ignored. It would precipitate increasingly outrageous behavior on his part and accomplish their aims far more effectively.

      It's really surprising how stupid politicians can be.

      If you assume their goals are not their ideology but rather their personal advancement in the social hierarchy, their behavior might make more sense.

      So it's a choice between stupidity and sociopathy. Great.

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      Horace
      wrote on last edited by Horace
      #20

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

      @Horace said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

      @Mik said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

      I think they continue making the same mistake as during his term - trying to turn him into the boogeyman. All that does is make him look some perversion of noble and keep him in the public eye.

      He should be ignored. It would precipitate increasingly outrageous behavior on his part and accomplish their aims far more effectively.

      It's really surprising how stupid politicians can be.

      If you assume their goals are not their ideology but rather their personal advancement in the social hierarchy, their behavior might make more sense.

      So it's a choice between stupidity and sociopathy. Great.

      A motivation for social advancement, and an inability to disentangle one's personal ambitions from alleged ideological motivations, is way too normal to be considered sociopathic or aberrant.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • George KG George K

        @Catseye3 said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

        Adding my bit: A good thing would be for Tuesday to come and go with nothing happening. No arrest, and protesters standing around holding their peckers and their posters of outrage dragging in the dirt.

        Agreed. But, as Scott Adams said, "If Trump ends up in handcuffs, he will be your next president."

        Not sure how that'll work out, but it will certainly rile up his base.

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        @George-K said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

        Not sure how that'll work out, but it will certainly rile up his base.

        Question of the hour: How widespread is his base nowadays? We hear glancing references to fans falling away, but what's the reality here?

        Tell you what, a good barometric way to answer that would be to watch Trump himself. The more he spins to push himself into the public eye, the more worried he is, maybe.

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        • MikM Offline
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          I would think he lost at least half of them the afternoon of January 6 when he told them all to go home.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            On another note, one might think he'd have learned that encouraging protests was not a great strategy.

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            @Mik said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

            On another note, one might think he'd have learned that encouraging protests was not a great strategy.

            He's not really the brightest bulb, either. From time to time, I've wondered whether he is genuinely stupid, but I suspect it's more of a personality disorder.

            I was only joking

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @Mik said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

              I think they continue making the same mistake as during his term - trying to turn him into the boogeyman. All that does is make him look some perversion of noble and keep him in the public eye.

              He should be ignored. It would precipitate increasingly outrageous behavior on his part and accomplish their aims far more effectively.

              It's really surprising how stupid politicians can be.

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              Jolly
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              #24

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

              @Mik said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

              I think they continue making the same mistake as during his term - trying to turn him into the boogeyman. All that does is make him look some perversion of noble and keep him in the public eye.

              He should be ignored. It would precipitate increasingly outrageous behavior on his part and accomplish their aims far more effectively.

              It's really surprising how stupid politicians can be.

              It's not stupidity. It's a disease. TDS.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                @Mik said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                I think they continue making the same mistake as during his term - trying to turn him into the boogeyman. All that does is make him look some perversion of noble and keep him in the public eye.

                He should be ignored. It would precipitate increasingly outrageous behavior on his part and accomplish their aims far more effectively.

                It's really surprising how stupid politicians can be.

                It's not stupidity. It's a disease. TDS.

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                Doctor Phibes
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                #25

                @Jolly said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                It's not stupidity. It's a disease. TDS.

                And Trump himself also suffers from it.

                I was only joking

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                • Catseye3C Catseye3

                  @George-K said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                  Not sure how that'll work out, but it will certainly rile up his base.

                  Question of the hour: How widespread is his base nowadays? We hear glancing references to fans falling away, but what's the reality here?

                  Tell you what, a good barometric way to answer that would be to watch Trump himself. The more he spins to push himself into the public eye, the more worried he is, maybe.

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                  @Catseye3 said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                  @George-K said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                  Not sure how that'll work out, but it will certainly rile up his base.

                  Question of the hour: How widespread is his base nowadays? We hear glancing references to fans falling away, but what's the reality here?

                  Tell you what, a good barometric way to answer that would be to watch Trump himself. The more he spins to push himself into the public eye, the more worried he is, maybe.

                  If a primary were held tomorrow in Florida, he'd beat DeSantis.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      @Catseye3 said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                      Adding my bit: A good thing would be for Tuesday to come and go with nothing happening. No arrest, and protesters standing around holding their peckers and their posters of outrage dragging in the dirt.

                      Agreed. But, as Scott Adams said, "If Trump ends up in handcuffs, he will be your next president."

                      Not sure how that'll work out, but it will certainly rile up his base.

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                      #28

                      @George-K said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                      "If Trump ends up in handcuffs, he will be your next president."

                      If Trump ends up in handcuffs, Biden will end up in handcuffs.

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                      • George KG George K

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                        #29

                        @George-K lol

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                        • CopperC Copper

                          @George-K said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                          "If Trump ends up in handcuffs, he will be your next president."

                          If Trump ends up in handcuffs, Biden will end up in handcuffs.

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                          @Copper said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                          If Trump ends up in handcuffs, Biden will end up in handcuffs.

                          Making for a nice symmetry. Maybe they can score matching courtrooms.

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          • MikM Offline
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                            Cellies!

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • MikM Mik

                              Cellies!

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                              @Mik said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                              Cellies!

                              Which one would be on top?

                              I was only joking

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                                #33

                                It was a perfectly good joke until you posted that horrible mental image. 😆

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  I think they continue making the same mistake as during his term - trying to turn him into the boogeyman. All that does is make him look some perversion of noble and keep him in the public eye.

                                  He should be ignored. It would precipitate increasingly outrageous behavior on his part and accomplish their aims far more effectively.

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                                  Renauda
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                                  @Mik

                                  This.

                                  He grows apoplectic if he thinks he is not getting enough attention be it negative or positive, although I think he thrives on the former.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    George K
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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Turley: "Legally Pathetic"

                                      Although it may be politically popular, the case is legally pathetic. Bragg is struggling to twist state laws to effectively prosecute a federal case long ago rejected by the Justice Department against Trump over his payment of “hush money” to former stripper Stormy Daniels. In 2018 (yes, that is how long this theory has been around), I wrote how difficult such a federal case would be under existing election laws. Now, six years later, the same theory may be shoehorned into a state claim.
                                      It is extremely difficult to show that paying money to cover up an embarrassing affair was done for election purposes as opposed to an array of obvious other reasons, from protecting a celebrity’s reputation to preserving a marriage. That was demonstrated by the failed federal prosecution of former presidential candidate John Edwards on a much stronger charge of using campaign funds to cover up an affair.
                                      In this case, Trump reportedly paid Daniels $130,000 in the fall of 2016 to cut off or at least reduce any public scandal. The Southern District of New York’s U.S. Attorney’s office had no love lost for Trump, pursuing him and his associates in myriad investigations, but it ultimately rejected a prosecution based on the election law violations. It was not alone: The Federal Election Commission (FEC) chair also expressed doubts about the theory.
                                      Prosecutors working under Bragg’s predecessor, Cyrus Vance Jr., also reportedly rejected the viability of using a New York law to effectively charge a federal offense.
                                      More importantly, Bragg himself previously expressed doubts about the case, effectively shutting it down soon after he took office. The two lead prosecutors, Carey R. Dunne and Mark F. Pomerantz, resigned in protest. Pomerantz launched a very public campaign against Bragg’s decision, including commenting on a still-pending investigation. He made it clear that Trump was guilty in his mind, even though his former office was still undecided and the grand jury investigation was ongoing.
                                      Pomerantz then did something that shocked many of us as highly unprofessional and improper: Over Bragg’s objection that he was undermining any possible prosecution, Pomerantz published a book detailing the case against an individual who was not charged, let alone convicted.

                                      While we still do not know the specific state charges in the anticipated indictment, the most-discussed would fall under Section 175 for falsifying business records, based on the claim that Trump used legal expenses to conceal the alleged hush-payments that were supposedly used to violate federal election laws. While some legal experts have insisted such concealment is clearly a criminal matter that must be charged, they were conspicuously silent when Hillary Clinton faced a not-dissimilar campaign-finance allegation.
                                      Last year, the Federal Election Commission fined the Clinton campaign for funding the Steele dossier as a legal expense. The campaign had previously denied funding the dossier, which was used to push false Russia collusion claims against Trump in 2016, and it buried the funding in the campaign’s legal budget. Yet, there was no hue and cry for this type of prosecution in Washington or New York.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        #37

                                        So what are you guys going to do as a protest after the arrest.

                                        I'm not sure what options are available. I probably won't go to the Capitol.

                                        My protest will be within a few miles of home, there probably won't be much happening.

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                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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