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    • Jolly
      Jolly last edited by

      Two words.

      John Edwards.

      That awful power, the public opinion of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ignorant, self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditching and shoemaking and fetched up in journalism on their way to the poorhouse. - Samuel Clemons

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      • jon-nyc
        jon-nyc @George K last edited by jon-nyc

        @George-K said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

        McCarthy has an interesting take on all of this.

        tl;dr version

        • Paying hush money is not illegal.
        • Where the money came from is...complicated
        • Statute of limitations is a big factor, also complicated.

        Bottom line - thin case for Bragg, who had already dropped it in the past.

        I think the misdemeanor case is solid, but the felony is very weak (to jolly’s point about Edwards). I suspect this guy will overreach, but I hope not.

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        • Catseye3
          Catseye3 last edited by Catseye3

          All of which skates over entirely how unsuited he is to hold office. I mean, who cares if he's suited? So long as there is plenty of fodder to fuck around with.

          Adding my bit: A good thing would be for Tuesday to come and go with nothing happening. No arrest, and protesters standing around holding their peckers and their posters of outrage dragging in the dirt.

          Not that Trump wouldn't have an explanation for it. You can massage anything if you have no respect for truth.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • George K
            George K @jon-nyc last edited by

            @jon-nyc said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

            I think the misdemeanor case is solid, but the felony is very weak

            McCarthy's point is that the statute of limitations for the misdemeanor is two years, but for the felony is five.

            If Bragg cannot prove the felony, we are left with misdemeanor falsification of records and the two-year statute of limitations would apply. We don’t know all the accounting facts, but we can probably assume that that has run by now — indeed, it likely lapsed in 2020 or 2021. If it’s just a misdemeanor, Trump is probably right that the case is time-barred.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            I wish Sam Kinison was still alive so he could talk to some of your about your "hurt feelings."

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            • Jolly
              Jolly last edited by

              Face it, if Trump could win reelection, just think how many people's lives could reaquire True Meaning. 😄😄

              That awful power, the public opinion of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ignorant, self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditching and shoemaking and fetched up in journalism on their way to the poorhouse. - Samuel Clemons

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              • jon-nyc
                jon-nyc @George K last edited by

                @George-K Right - makes sense.

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                • Catseye3
                  Catseye3 @Jolly last edited by

                  @Jolly

                  Aw, now you're just being a tease. 😳

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  • jon-nyc
                    jon-nyc last edited by

                    For the record I think it’s a mistake to make the felony charge. Intent is too hard to prove for the campaign finance violation. There are too many other reasons a man would pay to cover up an affair.

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                    • Mik
                      Mik @Catseye3 last edited by

                      @Catseye3 said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                      All of which skates over entirely how unsuited he is to hold office. I mean, who cares? So long as there is plenty of fodder to fuck around with.

                      Adding my bit: A good thing would be for Tuesday to come and go with nothing happening. No arrest, and protesters standing around holding their peckers and their posters of outrage dragging in the dirt.

                      Not that Trump wouldn't have an explanation for it. You can massage anything if you have no respect for truth.

                      That’s a great post, Cats.

                      "Summon scorn until it radiates from your person like a baleful beacon of contempt."

                      "I support anyone’s right to be who they want to be. My question is: to what extent do I have to participate in your self-image?" Dave Chappelle

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                      • George K
                        George K @Catseye3 last edited by

                        @Catseye3 said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                        Adding my bit: A good thing would be for Tuesday to come and go with nothing happening. No arrest, and protesters standing around holding their peckers and their posters of outrage dragging in the dirt.

                        Agreed. But, as Scott Adams said, "If Trump ends up in handcuffs, he will be your next president."

                        Not sure how that'll work out, but it will certainly rile up his base.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        I wish Sam Kinison was still alive so he could talk to some of your about your "hurt feelings."

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                        • Mik
                          Mik last edited by

                          I think they continue making the same mistake as during his term - trying to turn him into the boogeyman. All that does is make him look some perversion of noble and keep him in the public eye.

                          He should be ignored. It would precipitate increasingly outrageous behavior on his part and accomplish their aims far more effectively.

                          "Summon scorn until it radiates from your person like a baleful beacon of contempt."

                          "I support anyone’s right to be who they want to be. My question is: to what extent do I have to participate in your self-image?" Dave Chappelle

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                          • Doctor Phibes
                            Doctor Phibes @Mik last edited by

                            @Mik said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                            I think they continue making the same mistake as during his term - trying to turn him into the boogeyman. All that does is make him look some perversion of noble and keep him in the public eye.

                            He should be ignored. It would precipitate increasingly outrageous behavior on his part and accomplish their aims far more effectively.

                            It's really surprising how stupid politicians can be.

                            Doctor Phibes. Now with real cheese product!

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                            • Horace
                              Horace @Doctor Phibes last edited by

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                              @Mik said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                              I think they continue making the same mistake as during his term - trying to turn him into the boogeyman. All that does is make him look some perversion of noble and keep him in the public eye.

                              He should be ignored. It would precipitate increasingly outrageous behavior on his part and accomplish their aims far more effectively.

                              It's really surprising how stupid politicians can be.

                              If you assume their goals are not their ideology but rather their personal advancement in the social hierarchy, their behavior might make more sense.

                              You will take my mask when you pry it off my cold, dead face.

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                              • Doctor Phibes
                                Doctor Phibes @Horace last edited by

                                @Horace said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                                @Mik said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                                I think they continue making the same mistake as during his term - trying to turn him into the boogeyman. All that does is make him look some perversion of noble and keep him in the public eye.

                                He should be ignored. It would precipitate increasingly outrageous behavior on his part and accomplish their aims far more effectively.

                                It's really surprising how stupid politicians can be.

                                If you assume their goals are not their ideology but rather their personal advancement in the social hierarchy, their behavior might make more sense.

                                So it's a choice between stupidity and sociopathy. Great.

                                Doctor Phibes. Now with real cheese product!

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                                • Mik
                                  Mik last edited by

                                  On another note, one might think he'd have learned that encouraging protests was not a great strategy.

                                  "Summon scorn until it radiates from your person like a baleful beacon of contempt."

                                  "I support anyone’s right to be who they want to be. My question is: to what extent do I have to participate in your self-image?" Dave Chappelle

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                                  • Horace
                                    Horace @Doctor Phibes last edited by Horace

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                                    @Horace said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                                    @Mik said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                                    I think they continue making the same mistake as during his term - trying to turn him into the boogeyman. All that does is make him look some perversion of noble and keep him in the public eye.

                                    He should be ignored. It would precipitate increasingly outrageous behavior on his part and accomplish their aims far more effectively.

                                    It's really surprising how stupid politicians can be.

                                    If you assume their goals are not their ideology but rather their personal advancement in the social hierarchy, their behavior might make more sense.

                                    So it's a choice between stupidity and sociopathy. Great.

                                    A motivation for social advancement, and an inability to disentangle one's personal ambitions from alleged ideological motivations, is way too normal to be considered sociopathic or aberrant.

                                    You will take my mask when you pry it off my cold, dead face.

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                                    • Catseye3
                                      Catseye3 @George K last edited by

                                      @George-K said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                                      Not sure how that'll work out, but it will certainly rile up his base.

                                      Question of the hour: How widespread is his base nowadays? We hear glancing references to fans falling away, but what's the reality here?

                                      Tell you what, a good barometric way to answer that would be to watch Trump himself. The more he spins to push himself into the public eye, the more worried he is, maybe.

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                      • Mik
                                        Mik last edited by

                                        I would think he lost at least half of them the afternoon of January 6 when he told them all to go home.

                                        "Summon scorn until it radiates from your person like a baleful beacon of contempt."

                                        "I support anyone’s right to be who they want to be. My question is: to what extent do I have to participate in your self-image?" Dave Chappelle

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                                        • Doctor Phibes
                                          Doctor Phibes @Mik last edited by Doctor Phibes

                                          @Mik said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                                          On another note, one might think he'd have learned that encouraging protests was not a great strategy.

                                          He's not really the brightest bulb, either. From time to time, I've wondered whether he is genuinely stupid, but I suspect it's more of a personality disorder.

                                          Doctor Phibes. Now with real cheese product!

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                                          • Jolly
                                            Jolly @Doctor Phibes last edited by

                                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                                            @Mik said in Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday:

                                            I think they continue making the same mistake as during his term - trying to turn him into the boogeyman. All that does is make him look some perversion of noble and keep him in the public eye.

                                            He should be ignored. It would precipitate increasingly outrageous behavior on his part and accomplish their aims far more effectively.

                                            It's really surprising how stupid politicians can be.

                                            It's not stupidity. It's a disease. TDS.

                                            That awful power, the public opinion of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ignorant, self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditching and shoemaking and fetched up in journalism on their way to the poorhouse. - Samuel Clemons

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