The Killing Tree

[George K]

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-we-forgot-about-pol-pot/

A tree that is still faraway in time and conception (and growing evermore so), but a tree that is all too real, and very definitely not magical.

The tree is in a quiet, sunstruck park, lost in a grimy exurb of the Cambodian capital, Phnom Penh. The tree is decorated with hundreds of bracelets and trinkets, with the occasional teddy bear and kiddies’ drink – poignantly Blyton-esque touches, perhaps.

But if you look close at the bark of this tree, you can see tell-tale abrasions: chops, scars, bruises. These blemishes mark the places where peasant soldiers would swing screaming children against the tree, smashing their skulls to pulp. This was done, quite deliberately, in front of their naked, wailing and soon-to-be-murdered mothers.

[Jolly]

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

[Horace]

@Jolly said in The Killing Tree:

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

"Neurotic" aspects of personality are enhanced in plentiful times without real worries. Men and women become more different psychologically in such times, with women amping up the neuroses. If the society is controlled by the psychologies of women (and feminized men), we see what happens.

[George K]

Read the article. It has some disturbing insights into how it all went down in Cambodia. I was "out of the loop" at the time - studying, etc, and my awareness was only shallow.

But, my God...

[Mik]

There’s nothing in nature more vile than a human being.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in The Killing Tree:

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

I bet people weren't saying that masks or vaccines were a sign of tyranny, either.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Jolly said in The Killing Tree:

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

I bet people weren't saying that masks or vaccines were a sign of tyranny, either.

They were definitely saying 'leave me alone and let me make my own choices' though.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Jolly said in The Killing Tree:

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

I bet people weren't saying that masks or vaccines were a sign of tyranny, either.

They were definitely saying 'leave me alone and let me make my own choices' though.

That comparison works for allowing gay marriage just as much as it does for being exempted from vaccination.

Saying 'leave me alone' from wearing a mask isn't the same as 'leave me alone' from having my entire family murdered.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Jolly said in The Killing Tree:

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

I bet people weren't saying that masks or vaccines were a sign of tyranny, either.

They were definitely saying 'leave me alone and let me make my own choices' though.

That comparison works for allowing gay marriage just as much as it does for being exempted from vaccination.

Saying 'leave me alone' from wearing a mask isn't the same as 'leave me alone' from having my entire family murdered.

Gay marriage is so 10 years ago. At least you had to go back that far for a both-sides-are-equalizer.

You could have used abortion, I guess.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Jolly said in The Killing Tree:

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

I bet people weren't saying that masks or vaccines were a sign of tyranny, either.

They were definitely saying 'leave me alone and let me make my own choices' though.

That comparison works for allowing gay marriage just as much as it does for being exempted from vaccination.

Saying 'leave me alone' from wearing a mask isn't the same as 'leave me alone' from having my entire family murdered.

Gay marriage is so 10 years ago. At least you had to go back that far for a both-sides-are-equalizer.

You could have used abortion, I guess.

I could have used all sorts of things. There are plenty of people who want to stop gay marriage, or the Federal Reserve, or whatever the fuck they don't like. The point is, these things aren't what define tyranny. Having your family murdered for dissent is much closer.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Jolly said in The Killing Tree:

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

I bet people weren't saying that masks or vaccines were a sign of tyranny, either.

They were definitely saying 'leave me alone and let me make my own choices' though.

That comparison works for allowing gay marriage just as much as it does for being exempted from vaccination.

Saying 'leave me alone' from wearing a mask isn't the same as 'leave me alone' from having my entire family murdered.

Gay marriage is so 10 years ago. At least you had to go back that far for a both-sides-are-equalizer.

You could have used abortion, I guess.

I could have used all sorts of things. There are plenty of people who want to stop gay marriage, or the Federal Reserve, or whatever the fuck they don't like. The point is, these things aren't what define tyranny. Having your family murdered for dissent is much closer.

Get stuck with an experimental vaccine, or lose your livelihood, was reasonably considered to have crossed some lines. But YMMV.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Jolly said in The Killing Tree:

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

I bet people weren't saying that masks or vaccines were a sign of tyranny, either.

They were definitely saying 'leave me alone and let me make my own choices' though.

That comparison works for allowing gay marriage just as much as it does for being exempted from vaccination.

Saying 'leave me alone' from wearing a mask isn't the same as 'leave me alone' from having my entire family murdered.

Gay marriage is so 10 years ago. At least you had to go back that far for a both-sides-are-equalizer.

You could have used abortion, I guess.

I could have used all sorts of things. There are plenty of people who want to stop gay marriage, or the Federal Reserve, or whatever the fuck they don't like. The point is, these things aren't what define tyranny. Having your family murdered for dissent is much closer.

Get stuck with an experimental vaccine, or lose your livelihood, was reasonably considered to have crossed some lines. But YMMV.

What you're talking about is government over-reach. What I'm talking about is mass genocide.

If you can't tell the difference, then times are probably too good for you too.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Jolly said in The Killing Tree:

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

I bet people weren't saying that masks or vaccines were a sign of tyranny, either.

They were definitely saying 'leave me alone and let me make my own choices' though.

That comparison works for allowing gay marriage just as much as it does for being exempted from vaccination.

Saying 'leave me alone' from wearing a mask isn't the same as 'leave me alone' from having my entire family murdered.

Gay marriage is so 10 years ago. At least you had to go back that far for a both-sides-are-equalizer.

You could have used abortion, I guess.

I could have used all sorts of things. There are plenty of people who want to stop gay marriage, or the Federal Reserve, or whatever the fuck they don't like. The point is, these things aren't what define tyranny. Having your family murdered for dissent is much closer.

Get stuck with an experimental vaccine, or lose your livelihood, was reasonably considered to have crossed some lines. But YMMV.

What you're talking about is government over-reach. What I'm talking about is mass genocide.

I don't think those two things are mutually exclusive.

If you can't tell the difference, then times are probably too good for you too.

I never claimed otherwise. In fact there is nothing wrong with times being good. But it's interesting to consider the effects good times have on people's thoughts and feels.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Jolly said in The Killing Tree:

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

I bet people weren't saying that masks or vaccines were a sign of tyranny, either.

They were definitely saying 'leave me alone and let me make my own choices' though.

That comparison works for allowing gay marriage just as much as it does for being exempted from vaccination.

Saying 'leave me alone' from wearing a mask isn't the same as 'leave me alone' from having my entire family murdered.

Gay marriage is so 10 years ago. At least you had to go back that far for a both-sides-are-equalizer.

You could have used abortion, I guess.

I could have used all sorts of things. There are plenty of people who want to stop gay marriage, or the Federal Reserve, or whatever the fuck they don't like. The point is, these things aren't what define tyranny. Having your family murdered for dissent is much closer.

Get stuck with an experimental vaccine, or lose your livelihood, was reasonably considered to have crossed some lines. But YMMV.

What you're talking about is government over-reach. What I'm talking about is mass genocide.

I don't think those two things are mutually exclusive.

If you can't tell the difference, then times are probably too good for you too.

I never claimed otherwise. In fact there is nothing wrong with times being good. But it's interesting to consider the effects good times have on people's thoughts and feels.

What I found interesting was how quickly a thread about the Cambodian genocide became a discussion about America. It literally took one post.

And to think people say we're self-absorbed.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Jolly said in The Killing Tree:

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

I bet people weren't saying that masks or vaccines were a sign of tyranny, either.

They were definitely saying 'leave me alone and let me make my own choices' though.

That comparison works for allowing gay marriage just as much as it does for being exempted from vaccination.

Saying 'leave me alone' from wearing a mask isn't the same as 'leave me alone' from having my entire family murdered.

Gay marriage is so 10 years ago. At least you had to go back that far for a both-sides-are-equalizer.

You could have used abortion, I guess.

I could have used all sorts of things. There are plenty of people who want to stop gay marriage, or the Federal Reserve, or whatever the fuck they don't like. The point is, these things aren't what define tyranny. Having your family murdered for dissent is much closer.

Get stuck with an experimental vaccine, or lose your livelihood, was reasonably considered to have crossed some lines. But YMMV.

What you're talking about is government over-reach. What I'm talking about is mass genocide.

I don't think those two things are mutually exclusive.

If you can't tell the difference, then times are probably too good for you too.

I never claimed otherwise. In fact there is nothing wrong with times being good. But it's interesting to consider the effects good times have on people's thoughts and feels.

What I found interesting was how quickly a thread about the Cambodian genocide became a discussion about America. It literally took one post.

And to think people say we're self-absorbed.

I am deeply ashamed to admit that I don't know much about Cambodia. I do work with a Cambodian guy whose family was mostly killed by the KR. That probably gives me relative authority in this discussion. Disagree with anything I say at your own peril of being defined as wrong.

[Mik]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

I could have used all sorts of things. There are plenty of people who want to stop gay marriage, or the Federal Reserve, or whatever the fuck they don't like. The point is, these things aren't what define tyranny. Having your family murdered for dissent is much closer.

POTD

[Horace]

@Mik said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

I could have used all sorts of things. There are plenty of people who want to stop gay marriage, or the Federal Reserve, or whatever the fuck they don't like. The point is, these things aren't what define tyranny. Having your family murdered for dissent is much closer.

POTD

Meaningless post which shuts down conversation about all things which do not reach the threshold of genocide.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

Meaningless post which shuts down conversation about all things which do not reach the threshold of genocide.

No. When the initial discussion is about genocide, changing the subject to being about America's latest fad is what is shutting down the conversation.

If I barged into one of your interminable posts about the horrors of American pop culture by changing the subject to the holocaust, then that would be shutting down the conversation as you claim.

Which is what I'm going to do from now on, incidentally.

[Jolly]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Jolly said in The Killing Tree:

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

I bet people weren't saying that masks or vaccines were a sign of tyranny, either.

You're beating a dead horse. As we have learned, those things were a sign of tyranny.

OTOH, I think you missed my point entirely. The current transgenderism silliness is a first world problem, ramped up by an overly comfortable, fat, dumb and happy populace, desperately seeking something to be oppressed about.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

Meaningless post which shuts down conversation about all things which do not reach the threshold of genocide.

No. When the initial discussion is about genocide, changing the subject to being about America's latest fad is what is shutting down the conversation.

If I barged into one of your interminable posts about the horrors of American pop culture by changing the subject to the holocaust, then that would be shutting down the conversation as you claim.

Which is what I'm going to do from now on, incidentally.

Well you do, in fact, have more of a history here than probably any other poster, with contributions which are really only transparent attempts at denying the possibility that others are making reasonable points. This denial comes in the form of messenger-shooting and both-sides-are-equalizing. Anybody can play this game of zooming out, describing, and dismissing the posts of others. It's lame and intellectually vacuous though.