The Killing Tree

[George K]

Read the article. It has some disturbing insights into how it all went down in Cambodia. I was "out of the loop" at the time - studying, etc, and my awareness was only shallow.

But, my God...

[Mik]

There’s nothing in nature more vile than a human being.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in The Killing Tree:

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

I bet people weren't saying that masks or vaccines were a sign of tyranny, either.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Jolly said in The Killing Tree:

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

I bet people weren't saying that masks or vaccines were a sign of tyranny, either.

They were definitely saying 'leave me alone and let me make my own choices' though.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Jolly said in The Killing Tree:

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

I bet people weren't saying that masks or vaccines were a sign of tyranny, either.

They were definitely saying 'leave me alone and let me make my own choices' though.

That comparison works for allowing gay marriage just as much as it does for being exempted from vaccination.

Saying 'leave me alone' from wearing a mask isn't the same as 'leave me alone' from having my entire family murdered.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Jolly said in The Killing Tree:

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

I bet people weren't saying that masks or vaccines were a sign of tyranny, either.

They were definitely saying 'leave me alone and let me make my own choices' though.

That comparison works for allowing gay marriage just as much as it does for being exempted from vaccination.

Saying 'leave me alone' from wearing a mask isn't the same as 'leave me alone' from having my entire family murdered.

Gay marriage is so 10 years ago. At least you had to go back that far for a both-sides-are-equalizer.

You could have used abortion, I guess.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Jolly said in The Killing Tree:

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

I bet people weren't saying that masks or vaccines were a sign of tyranny, either.

They were definitely saying 'leave me alone and let me make my own choices' though.

That comparison works for allowing gay marriage just as much as it does for being exempted from vaccination.

Saying 'leave me alone' from wearing a mask isn't the same as 'leave me alone' from having my entire family murdered.

Gay marriage is so 10 years ago. At least you had to go back that far for a both-sides-are-equalizer.

You could have used abortion, I guess.

I could have used all sorts of things. There are plenty of people who want to stop gay marriage, or the Federal Reserve, or whatever the fuck they don't like. The point is, these things aren't what define tyranny. Having your family murdered for dissent is much closer.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Jolly said in The Killing Tree:

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

I bet people weren't saying that masks or vaccines were a sign of tyranny, either.

They were definitely saying 'leave me alone and let me make my own choices' though.

That comparison works for allowing gay marriage just as much as it does for being exempted from vaccination.

Saying 'leave me alone' from wearing a mask isn't the same as 'leave me alone' from having my entire family murdered.

Gay marriage is so 10 years ago. At least you had to go back that far for a both-sides-are-equalizer.

You could have used abortion, I guess.

I could have used all sorts of things. There are plenty of people who want to stop gay marriage, or the Federal Reserve, or whatever the fuck they don't like. The point is, these things aren't what define tyranny. Having your family murdered for dissent is much closer.

Get stuck with an experimental vaccine, or lose your livelihood, was reasonably considered to have crossed some lines. But YMMV.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Jolly said in The Killing Tree:

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

I bet people weren't saying that masks or vaccines were a sign of tyranny, either.

They were definitely saying 'leave me alone and let me make my own choices' though.

That comparison works for allowing gay marriage just as much as it does for being exempted from vaccination.

Saying 'leave me alone' from wearing a mask isn't the same as 'leave me alone' from having my entire family murdered.

Gay marriage is so 10 years ago. At least you had to go back that far for a both-sides-are-equalizer.

You could have used abortion, I guess.

I could have used all sorts of things. There are plenty of people who want to stop gay marriage, or the Federal Reserve, or whatever the fuck they don't like. The point is, these things aren't what define tyranny. Having your family murdered for dissent is much closer.

Get stuck with an experimental vaccine, or lose your livelihood, was reasonably considered to have crossed some lines. But YMMV.

What you're talking about is government over-reach. What I'm talking about is mass genocide.

If you can't tell the difference, then times are probably too good for you too.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Jolly said in The Killing Tree:

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

I bet people weren't saying that masks or vaccines were a sign of tyranny, either.

They were definitely saying 'leave me alone and let me make my own choices' though.

That comparison works for allowing gay marriage just as much as it does for being exempted from vaccination.

Saying 'leave me alone' from wearing a mask isn't the same as 'leave me alone' from having my entire family murdered.

Gay marriage is so 10 years ago. At least you had to go back that far for a both-sides-are-equalizer.

You could have used abortion, I guess.

I could have used all sorts of things. There are plenty of people who want to stop gay marriage, or the Federal Reserve, or whatever the fuck they don't like. The point is, these things aren't what define tyranny. Having your family murdered for dissent is much closer.

Get stuck with an experimental vaccine, or lose your livelihood, was reasonably considered to have crossed some lines. But YMMV.

What you're talking about is government over-reach. What I'm talking about is mass genocide.

I don't think those two things are mutually exclusive.

If you can't tell the difference, then times are probably too good for you too.

I never claimed otherwise. In fact there is nothing wrong with times being good. But it's interesting to consider the effects good times have on people's thoughts and feels.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Jolly said in The Killing Tree:

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

I bet people weren't saying that masks or vaccines were a sign of tyranny, either.

They were definitely saying 'leave me alone and let me make my own choices' though.

That comparison works for allowing gay marriage just as much as it does for being exempted from vaccination.

Saying 'leave me alone' from wearing a mask isn't the same as 'leave me alone' from having my entire family murdered.

Gay marriage is so 10 years ago. At least you had to go back that far for a both-sides-are-equalizer.

You could have used abortion, I guess.

I could have used all sorts of things. There are plenty of people who want to stop gay marriage, or the Federal Reserve, or whatever the fuck they don't like. The point is, these things aren't what define tyranny. Having your family murdered for dissent is much closer.

Get stuck with an experimental vaccine, or lose your livelihood, was reasonably considered to have crossed some lines. But YMMV.

What you're talking about is government over-reach. What I'm talking about is mass genocide.

I don't think those two things are mutually exclusive.

If you can't tell the difference, then times are probably too good for you too.

I never claimed otherwise. In fact there is nothing wrong with times being good. But it's interesting to consider the effects good times have on people's thoughts and feels.

What I found interesting was how quickly a thread about the Cambodian genocide became a discussion about America. It literally took one post.

And to think people say we're self-absorbed.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Jolly said in The Killing Tree:

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

I bet people weren't saying that masks or vaccines were a sign of tyranny, either.

They were definitely saying 'leave me alone and let me make my own choices' though.

That comparison works for allowing gay marriage just as much as it does for being exempted from vaccination.

Saying 'leave me alone' from wearing a mask isn't the same as 'leave me alone' from having my entire family murdered.

Gay marriage is so 10 years ago. At least you had to go back that far for a both-sides-are-equalizer.

You could have used abortion, I guess.

I could have used all sorts of things. There are plenty of people who want to stop gay marriage, or the Federal Reserve, or whatever the fuck they don't like. The point is, these things aren't what define tyranny. Having your family murdered for dissent is much closer.

Get stuck with an experimental vaccine, or lose your livelihood, was reasonably considered to have crossed some lines. But YMMV.

What you're talking about is government over-reach. What I'm talking about is mass genocide.

I don't think those two things are mutually exclusive.

If you can't tell the difference, then times are probably too good for you too.

I never claimed otherwise. In fact there is nothing wrong with times being good. But it's interesting to consider the effects good times have on people's thoughts and feels.

What I found interesting was how quickly a thread about the Cambodian genocide became a discussion about America. It literally took one post.

And to think people say we're self-absorbed.

I am deeply ashamed to admit that I don't know much about Cambodia. I do work with a Cambodian guy whose family was mostly killed by the KR. That probably gives me relative authority in this discussion. Disagree with anything I say at your own peril of being defined as wrong.

[Mik]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

I could have used all sorts of things. There are plenty of people who want to stop gay marriage, or the Federal Reserve, or whatever the fuck they don't like. The point is, these things aren't what define tyranny. Having your family murdered for dissent is much closer.

POTD

[Horace]

@Mik said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

I could have used all sorts of things. There are plenty of people who want to stop gay marriage, or the Federal Reserve, or whatever the fuck they don't like. The point is, these things aren't what define tyranny. Having your family murdered for dissent is much closer.

POTD

Meaningless post which shuts down conversation about all things which do not reach the threshold of genocide.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

Meaningless post which shuts down conversation about all things which do not reach the threshold of genocide.

No. When the initial discussion is about genocide, changing the subject to being about America's latest fad is what is shutting down the conversation.

If I barged into one of your interminable posts about the horrors of American pop culture by changing the subject to the holocaust, then that would be shutting down the conversation as you claim.

Which is what I'm going to do from now on, incidentally.

[Jolly]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Jolly said in The Killing Tree:

Those mothers probably never worried about their children being transgendered.

I bet people weren't saying that masks or vaccines were a sign of tyranny, either.

You're beating a dead horse. As we have learned, those things were a sign of tyranny.

OTOH, I think you missed my point entirely. The current transgenderism silliness is a first world problem, ramped up by an overly comfortable, fat, dumb and happy populace, desperately seeking something to be oppressed about.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

Meaningless post which shuts down conversation about all things which do not reach the threshold of genocide.

No. When the initial discussion is about genocide, changing the subject to being about America's latest fad is what is shutting down the conversation.

If I barged into one of your interminable posts about the horrors of American pop culture by changing the subject to the holocaust, then that would be shutting down the conversation as you claim.

Which is what I'm going to do from now on, incidentally.

Well you do, in fact, have more of a history here than probably any other poster, with contributions which are really only transparent attempts at denying the possibility that others are making reasonable points. This denial comes in the form of messenger-shooting and both-sides-are-equalizing. Anybody can play this game of zooming out, describing, and dismissing the posts of others. It's lame and intellectually vacuous though.

[Renauda]

@Horace

I am deeply ashamed to admit that I don't know much about Cambodia. I do work with a Cambodian guy whose family was mostly killed by the KR. That probably gives me relative authority in this discussion. Disagree with anything I say at your own peril of being defined as wrong.

Yesterday you posted the following in the Israel thread:

Nobody actually holds to a principle of deferring to natives regarding cultural issues. They only pretend to defer when they know a priori they will agree with a given native.

I don’t believe you are the least bit ashamed.

However to your point that you don’t know much about Cambodia, I am not surprised. That would probably require you to crack open a history text. Too much for your pop culture obsessed technocrat brain to handle

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

Meaningless post which shuts down conversation about all things which do not reach the threshold of genocide.

No. When the initial discussion is about genocide, changing the subject to being about America's latest fad is what is shutting down the conversation.

If I barged into one of your interminable posts about the horrors of American pop culture by changing the subject to the holocaust, then that would be shutting down the conversation as you claim.

Which is what I'm going to do from now on, incidentally.

Well you do, in fact, have more of a history here than probably any other poster, with contributions which are really only transparent attempts at denying the possibility that others are making reasonable points. This denial comes in the form of messenger-shooting and both-sides-are-equalizing. Anybody can play this game of zooming out, describing, and dismissing the posts of others. It's lame and intellectually vacuous though.

Yeah, I must admit I frequently don't put much thought into my posts. I hope you don't either, because you've basically made the same one about a million times already.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Killing Tree:

@Horace said in The Killing Tree:

Meaningless post which shuts down conversation about all things which do not reach the threshold of genocide.

No. When the initial discussion is about genocide, changing the subject to being about America's latest fad is what is shutting down the conversation.

If I barged into one of your interminable posts about the horrors of American pop culture by changing the subject to the holocaust, then that would be shutting down the conversation as you claim.

Which is what I'm going to do from now on, incidentally.

Well you do, in fact, have more of a history here than probably any other poster, with contributions which are really only transparent attempts at denying the possibility that others are making reasonable points. This denial comes in the form of messenger-shooting and both-sides-are-equalizing. Anybody can play this game of zooming out, describing, and dismissing the posts of others. It's lame and intellectually vacuous though.

Yeah, I must admit I frequently don't put much thought into my posts. I hope you don't either, because you've basically made the same one about a million times already.

Like you pay any attention to them.