Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse

The New Coffee Room

  1. TNCR
  2. General Discussion
  3. 1962

1962

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved General Discussion
9 Posts 5 Posters 56 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • JollyJ Offline
    JollyJ Offline
    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    When you look at cattle numbers vs. U.S. population, we're currently at the lowest level of cattle since 1962.

    https://www.nass.usda.gov/Newsroom/2023/01-31-2023.php

    I'm guessing that's due to a couple of factors...the Western drought and sell-off, coupled with the loss of the small rancher. Most of the guys I know down here that ran 50-100 head, are no longer in business, because they weren't making money.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

    1 Reply Last reply
    • jon-nycJ Offline
      jon-nycJ Offline
      jon-nyc
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      We're a net importer of beef. Not sure if that was true 50 years ago.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
      HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
      • JollyJ Offline
        JollyJ Offline
        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        I became involved in a local schoolboard election last fall (my candidate lost), primarily over a beef cattle issue. The local high school has a processing facility, where they cut up cattle, hogs and sheep for the locals. They do not have a kill facility.

        The guy I was backing, is a small cattleman, who also does some bull-swapping and AI work. He and the president of the Louisiana Cattlemen's Association were advocating for a kill facility at the high school. The feds had money available to build a small, USDA certified, kill pen.

        In terms of keeping small ranchers and homesteader types going, that was a big deal. With USDA cert of kill and process facility, the meat could be sold to the public as direct farm-to-table. That's about the only way these guys can stay in business, by value-added tactics.

        Alas, my guy lost. Other issues, along with so few people now understanding what it takes to make a small farm or ranch profitable.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

        AxtremusA 1 Reply Last reply
        • LuFins DadL Offline
          LuFins DadL Offline
          LuFins Dad
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          We’re also eating 30% less beef per person in the US than we were in 1962…

          The Brad

          1 Reply Last reply
          • jon-nycJ Offline
            jon-nycJ Offline
            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            A lot more chicken, fish and even pork I’d imagine. I mean more than before.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
            1 Reply Last reply
            • JollyJ Offline
              JollyJ Offline
              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              As a whole, probably. Regionally? I dunno.

              This area has always been pork heavy. Probably the reason we tend to drop dead with heart attacks.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

              1 Reply Last reply
              • JollyJ Jolly

                I became involved in a local schoolboard election last fall (my candidate lost), primarily over a beef cattle issue. The local high school has a processing facility, where they cut up cattle, hogs and sheep for the locals. They do not have a kill facility.

                The guy I was backing, is a small cattleman, who also does some bull-swapping and AI work. He and the president of the Louisiana Cattlemen's Association were advocating for a kill facility at the high school. The feds had money available to build a small, USDA certified, kill pen.

                In terms of keeping small ranchers and homesteader types going, that was a big deal. With USDA cert of kill and process facility, the meat could be sold to the public as direct farm-to-table. That's about the only way these guys can stay in business, by value-added tactics.

                Alas, my guy lost. Other issues, along with so few people now understanding what it takes to make a small farm or ranch profitable.

                AxtremusA Away
                AxtremusA Away
                Axtremus
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                @Jolly , interesting to hear that a “kill pen” is a school board issue where you are. Assuming the environment and the budget allow, I would support building a “kill pen” for the local school, it provides one more facility for the students to learn something real and useful.

                1 Reply Last reply
                • JollyJ Offline
                  JollyJ Offline
                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  The kill pen would have cost nothing to build, as that would have been federal grant money. Even the additional required employee would have been initially funded with grant money.

                  Things do change, though. When I was a lad, it was still open range where I live. We had a long history of running stock in the swamp (my brand is GWJ, my ear notch is two slits and an underbit). In the spring, when we had high waters, families would cowboy up and gather the stock, which would then be flat boated out to higher ground.

                  My high school had cattle gaps at the entrances. It was a different time.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    We're a net importer of beef. Not sure if that was true 50 years ago.

                    HoraceH Offline
                    HoraceH Offline
                    Horace
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    @jon-nyc said in 1962:

                    We're a net importer of beef.

                    That's what she said.

                    Education is extremely important.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    Reply
                    • Reply as topic
                    Log in to reply
                    • Oldest to Newest
                    • Newest to Oldest
                    • Most Votes


                    • Login

                    • Don't have an account? Register

                    • Login or register to search.
                    • First post
                      Last post
                    0
                    • Categories
                    • Recent
                    • Tags
                    • Popular
                    • Users
                    • Groups