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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    And let’s be clear, the issue isn’t that they had the show. The issue is that it was originally designated an all ages show, then begrudgingly moved into a rated R status and the show happened with minors in attendance.

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    @LuFins-Dad said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

    And let’s be clear, the issue isn’t that they had the show. The issue is that it was originally designated an all ages show, then begrudgingly moved into a rated R status and the show happened with minors in attendance.

    My issue is the lack of clarity of who “they” are. The show has a producer and the venue has a manager and an owner. None of those three entities are Hyatt.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      @LuFins-Dad said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

      And let’s be clear, the issue isn’t that they had the show. The issue is that it was originally designated an all ages show, then begrudgingly moved into a rated R status and the show happened with minors in attendance.

      My issue is the lack of clarity of who “they” are. The show has a producer and the venue has a manager and an owner. None of those three entities are Hyatt.

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      LuFins Dad
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      @jon-nyc said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

      @LuFins-Dad said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

      And let’s be clear, the issue isn’t that they had the show. The issue is that it was originally designated an all ages show, then begrudgingly moved into a rated R status and the show happened with minors in attendance.

      My issue is the lack of clarity of who “they” are. The show has a producer and the venue has a manager and an owner. None of those three entities are Hyatt.

      No, but Hyatt does share responsibility when it comes to the alcohol sold at the venue. It is their liquor license and there are regulations and laws regarding the sale of alcohol. Evidently the show violated the rules so the holder of the liquor license is held responsible. And this wasn’t a surprise. Hyatt and the venue were warned in advance, which is why they changed it from all ages to no children unless with an adult. That wasn’t far enough.

      And seriously, why not just make it an adult only show? No kid should have been exposed to that.

      The Brad

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        Now, I will admit that I do have concerns about this escalation of weaponizing governmental authority. Just because we see it done from the other side doesn’t mean that an eye for an eye is the solution…

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          Now, I will admit that I do have concerns about this escalation of weaponizing governmental authority. Just because we see it done from the other side doesn’t mean that an eye for an eye is the solution…

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          @LuFins-Dad

          I’d like to know more about the warning. One piece I read said it came the same day as the event. Who received the warning? The hotel manager? What’s he supposed to do with a few hours notice for an event he doesn’t control?

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            If parents are fine with the taking their kids to this, it's hard to make the government step in as morality police.

            The other side will cry out censorship, free-speech violations, etc. etc. I don't see what this crack-down actually achieves practically or politically.

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            • X xenon

              If parents are fine with the taking their kids to this, it's hard to make the government step in as morality police.

              The other side will cry out censorship, free-speech violations, etc. etc. I don't see what this crack-down actually achieves practically or politically.

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              LuFins Dad
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              @xenon said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

              If parents are fine with the taking their kids to this, it's hard to make the government step in as morality police.

              The other side will cry out censorship, free-speech violations, etc. etc. I don't see what this crack-down actually achieves practically or politically.

              Again, if I take Finley into a burlesque show, I will be tossed on my ass or the burlesque show would be shut down. I can’t take him into an NC-17 movie, either. State and Federal governments can and do interfere all the time in these matters. But since this involves the Alphabet Soup it’s all good…

              The Brad

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              • X xenon

                If parents are fine with the taking their kids to this, it's hard to make the government step in as morality police.

                The other side will cry out censorship, free-speech violations, etc. etc. I don't see what this crack-down actually achieves practically or politically.

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                jon-nyc
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                @xenon said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

                I don't see what this crack-down actually achieves practically or politically.

                For the latter just read the excitement in this thread or, even better, the replies to the original tweet. For the former, probably nothing, like many of his other culture war stunts, but by the time they get walked back nobody is paying attention anymore.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

                  And let’s be clear, the issue isn’t that they had the show. The issue is that it was originally designated an all ages show, then begrudgingly moved into a rated R status and the show happened with minors in attendance.

                  My issue is the lack of clarity of who “they” are. The show has a producer and the venue has a manager and an owner. None of those three entities are Hyatt.

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                  @jon-nyc said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

                  And let’s be clear, the issue isn’t that they had the show. The issue is that it was originally designated an all ages show, then begrudgingly moved into a rated R status and the show happened with minors in attendance.

                  My issue is the lack of clarity of who “they” are. The show has a producer and the venue has a manager and an owner. None of those three entities are Hyatt.

                  Respondeat superior?

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    @xenon said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

                    I don't see what this crack-down actually achieves practically or politically.

                    For the latter just read the excitement in this thread or, even better, the replies to the original tweet. For the former, probably nothing, like many of his other culture war stunts, but by the time they get walked back nobody is paying attention anymore.

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                    @jon-nyc said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

                    @xenon said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

                    I don't see what this crack-down actually achieves practically or politically.

                    For the latter just read the excitement in this thread or, even better, the replies to the original tweet. For the former, probably nothing, like many of his other culture war stunts, but by the time they get walked back nobody is paying attention anymore.

                    Did the Disney stuff get walked back?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      #37

                      Yes. The immediate objection that the move would put $5B of debt onto a small municipality turned out to be true.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Yes. The immediate objection that the move would put $5B of debt onto a small municipality turned out to be true.

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                        @jon-nyc said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

                        Yes. The immediate objection that the move would put $5B of debt onto a small municipality turned out to be true.

                        They also have a new CEO and new DeSantis Allies on the board.

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          And let’s be clear, the issue isn’t that they had the show. The issue is that it was originally designated an all ages show, then begrudgingly moved into a rated R status and the show happened with minors in attendance.

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                          @LuFins-Dad said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

                          And let’s be clear, the issue isn’t that they had the show. The issue is that it was originally designated an all ages show, then begrudgingly moved into a rated R status and the show happened with minors in attendance.

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                            Well, since strippers are being kicked off of PTA’s and aren’t allowed to volunteer at their own children’s schools but drag queens are recruited, what do you think?

                            The Brad

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