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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    From the RWEC: Pathetic

    =-=-=-=-=

    Politicians want power, and we need certain things to be done. It isn’t a love affair or a marriage. It’s a loose contract with a service provider who likely won’t deliver what they promise, but may still leave you better off than you would be if you contracted with somebody else.

    If you fall in love with a politician, chances are you are a sucker. You can love what they do for you, but never fall in love with them.

    They certainly aren’t in love with you. You are a vote or a contributor, not a buddy.

    ...

    But ever since losing the 2020 election, Trump has become a smaller and smaller figure. Trump’s entire persona is that he is a winner, and he hasn’t been able to digest the fact that he lost. Losing in itself isn’t shameful, but clearly it sticks in his craw and has prevented him from forging a forward-looking path.

    So he is flailing. And it is a bad look.

    ....

    Trump looks pathetic because he appears obsessed with DeSantis, while DeSantis appears strong because he clearly is not obsessed with Trump.

    None of this means that DeSantis has the inside track on the nomination and Trump’s chances are necessarily shrinking. Trump’s base is about as hardcore as they come, because for them the case for Trump is not transactional in the least. It is based upon personal loyalty. They clearly love Trump and see him as their champion.

    I understand why, but it is a mistake. Trump was a successful president in most respects, although he will never get any credit for it. But his ultimate downfall was his failure to do the one thing that would have ensured his continued success: drain the swamp. In his battle with the establishment and the bureaucracy he was never really on the offense, and they eventually beat him.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Away
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      Mik
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      Good article, especially if you read it all.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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        Being petty and vindictive and personalizing everything only really works while you're winning.

        The reality is that the biggest sufferer from TDS is Trump himself.

        I was only joking

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          Yeah, I’ve been expecting this. They aren’t going to wait till the very last minute like the Dems did in 2020 when they finally rallied behind Biden. Heck, even Warren endorsed Joe… The thing is that Trump’s base is bigger than Bernie’s. The R’s can’t afford to let Trump have a lead going into April/May of 2024. So they need to rally behind DeSantis early and 1) hope they can swing enough of the moderate R’s like the Cheneys and the Romneys to support a DeSantis (that is likely too far to the right for them normally) AND pick off a couple percent of the solid Trump base.

          What do you think, @Jolly ? Can they bring you over to DeSantis in the primary?

          @Renauda s prediction of the next Republican President does seem a little more prophetic, though. I do have some concerns regarding DeSantis.

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            Yeah, I’ve been expecting this. They aren’t going to wait till the very last minute like the Dems did in 2020 when they finally rallied behind Biden. Heck, even Warren endorsed Joe… The thing is that Trump’s base is bigger than Bernie’s. The R’s can’t afford to let Trump have a lead going into April/May of 2024. So they need to rally behind DeSantis early and 1) hope they can swing enough of the moderate R’s like the Cheneys and the Romneys to support a DeSantis (that is likely too far to the right for them normally) AND pick off a couple percent of the solid Trump base.

            What do you think, @Jolly ? Can they bring you over to DeSantis in the primary?

            @Renauda s prediction of the next Republican President does seem a little more prophetic, though. I do have some concerns regarding DeSantis.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
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            @LuFins-Dad said in The Shrinking Trump:

            . I do have some concerns regarding DeSantis.

            'splain?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              Yeah, I’ve been expecting this. They aren’t going to wait till the very last minute like the Dems did in 2020 when they finally rallied behind Biden. Heck, even Warren endorsed Joe… The thing is that Trump’s base is bigger than Bernie’s. The R’s can’t afford to let Trump have a lead going into April/May of 2024. So they need to rally behind DeSantis early and 1) hope they can swing enough of the moderate R’s like the Cheneys and the Romneys to support a DeSantis (that is likely too far to the right for them normally) AND pick off a couple percent of the solid Trump base.

              What do you think, @Jolly ? Can they bring you over to DeSantis in the primary?

              @Renauda s prediction of the next Republican President does seem a little more prophetic, though. I do have some concerns regarding DeSantis.

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              @LuFins-Dad said in The Shrinking Trump:

              Yeah, I’ve been expecting this. They aren’t going to wait till the very last minute like the Dems did in 2020 when they finally rallied behind Biden. Heck, even Warren endorsed Joe… The thing is that Trump’s base is bigger than Bernie’s. The R’s can’t afford to let Trump have a lead going into April/May of 2024. So they need to rally behind DeSantis early and 1) hope they can swing enough of the moderate R’s like the Cheneys and the Romneys to support a DeSantis (that is likely too far to the right for them normally) AND pick off a couple percent of the solid Trump base.

              What do you think, @Jolly ? Can they bring you over to DeSantis in the primary?

              @Renauda s prediction of the next Republican President does seem a little more prophetic, though. I do have some concerns regarding DeSantis.

              @LuFins-Dad said in The Shrinking Trump:

              Yeah, I’ve been expecting this. They aren’t going to wait till the very last minute like the Dems did in 2020 when they finally rallied behind Biden. Heck, even Warren endorsed Joe… The thing is that Trump’s base is bigger than Bernie’s. The R’s can’t afford to let Trump have a lead going into April/May of 2024. So they need to rally behind DeSantis early and 1) hope they can swing enough of the moderate R’s like the Cheneys and the Romneys to support a DeSantis (that is likely too far to the right for them normally) AND pick off a couple percent of the solid Trump base.

              What do you think, @Jolly ? Can they bring you over to DeSantis in the primary?

              @Renauda s prediction of the next Republican President does seem a little more prophetic, though. I do have some concerns regarding DeSantis.

              My BIL lives outside of Jacksonville, DeSantis Central. He's real high on him. DeSantis has many policy positions in common with Trump.

              I could be persuaded.

              I do agree with your political observations. The wildcard in this game are the current Trump investigations and grand juries. If charges are brought - especially if they are mickey mouse - Trump may experience a rallying effect...The Swamp is out to get him, so he must be a menace to them. It guarantees him the primaries.

              So, if the economy is in the dumper and inflation has not abated, Trump could have a shot at reelection, even with all the legal stuff.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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