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When you've lost Fetterman...

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  • MikM Mik

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/john-fetterman-s-team-lashes-out-at-joe-biden/ar-AA18p3fF?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=bc137a5b3d0d4e39ab934ef768159c4f&ei=21

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    @Mik said in When you've lost Fetterman...:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/john-fetterman-s-team-lashes-out-at-joe-biden/ar-AA18p3fF?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=bc137a5b3d0d4e39ab934ef768159c4f&ei=21

    The whole DC Statehood thing is a very big issue for the Republicans to watch out for. If the Dems had had 2 more votes last term to blow up the filibuster, DC would be a state now and the Republicans would be behind the 8-Ball…

    The Brad

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      I dont understand this issue.

      What is the pro and con for the Washington DC to become a state?

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      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

        I dont understand this issue.

        What is the pro and con for the Washington DC to become a state?

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        @taiwan_girl said in When you've lost Fetterman...:

        I dont understand this issue.

        What is the pro and con for the Washington DC to become a state?

        The whole point is to add 2 more Senators - and both will be democrats because DC is about 95% democrat.

        The democrats pretend that it is about voting rights because there is no Senator from DC today.

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        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

          I dont understand this issue.

          What is the pro and con for the Washington DC to become a state?

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          @taiwan_girl said in When you've lost Fetterman...:

          What is the pro and con for the Washington DC to become a state?

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_statehood_movement

          See the "Arguments for" and "Arguments against" sections.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            From time to time, the republicans have agreed to various ways to give DC to MD or VA, but the democrats never buy it.

            If they agreed to this move it would eliminate the voting rights question.

            But that isn't what the dems really want. They want the 2 dem senators.

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              If the 580,000 people of Wyoming get two Senators, the 713,000 people of Washington D.C. should be able to get two Senators too.

              Partisanship competitiveness is ephemeral. The democratic principle of fair representation should endure.

              The Republican Party, like any other political parties, can work to earn the votes from Washington D.C.’s voters if and when Washington D.C gets its two Senate seats.

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                If the 580,000 people of Wyoming get two Senators, the 713,000 people of Washington D.C. should be able to get two Senators too.

                Partisanship competitiveness is ephemeral. The democratic principle of fair representation should endure.

                The Republican Party, like any other political parties, can work to earn the votes from Washington D.C.’s voters if and when Washington D.C gets its two Senate seats.

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                @Axtremus said in When you've lost Fetterman...:

                If the 580,000 people of Wyoming get two Senators, the 713,000 people of Washington D.C. should be able to get two Senators too.

                Partisanship competitiveness is ephemeral. The democratic principle of fair representation should endure.

                The Republican Party, like any other political parties, can work to earn the votes from Washington D.C.’s voters if and when Washington D.C gets its two Senate seats.

                The vast majority of the good people of Wyoming do not work directly for the United States Government or Government support roles. The good people of DC have a direct and immediate interest in the continual growth of the Federal Government in power and in size.

                This would also result in the “State” of DC having outsized influence on the actual functioning of the Federal Government. The general functions of running a city/state do not always run parallel with the functions of running the Capitol of the United States. Security requirements would top the list, but there would also be quite a few others…

                No, you could cede some of NW and NE back to Maryland if you would like. That would be a reasonable compromise to give those people voting rights but without having outsized voting power on matters relating to their direct interest, but otherwise it’s a non-starter.

                The Brad

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                  It’s fine the way it is and is defined as such in the constitution. This country has far greater issues to address.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    @Axtremus said in When you've lost Fetterman...:

                    If the 580,000 people of Wyoming get two Senators, the 713,000 people of Washington D.C. should be able to get two Senators too.

                    Partisanship competitiveness is ephemeral. The democratic principle of fair representation should endure.

                    The Republican Party, like any other political parties, can work to earn the votes from Washington D.C.’s voters if and when Washington D.C gets its two Senate seats.

                    The vast majority of the good people of Wyoming do not work directly for the United States Government or Government support roles. The good people of DC have a direct and immediate interest in the continual growth of the Federal Government in power and in size.

                    This would also result in the “State” of DC having outsized influence on the actual functioning of the Federal Government. The general functions of running a city/state do not always run parallel with the functions of running the Capitol of the United States. Security requirements would top the list, but there would also be quite a few others…

                    No, you could cede some of NW and NE back to Maryland if you would like. That would be a reasonable compromise to give those people voting rights but without having outsized voting power on matters relating to their direct interest, but otherwise it’s a non-starter.

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                    @LuFins-Dad said in When you've lost Fetterman...:

                    @Axtremus said in When you've lost Fetterman...:

                    If the 580,000 people of Wyoming get two Senators, the 713,000 people of Washington D.C. should be able to get two Senators too.

                    Partisanship competitiveness is ephemeral. The democratic principle of fair representation should endure.

                    The Republican Party, like any other political parties, can work to earn the votes from Washington D.C.’s voters if and when Washington D.C gets its two Senate seats.

                    The vast majority of the good people of Wyoming do not work directly for the United States Government or Government support roles. The good people of DC have a direct and immediate interest in the continual growth of the Federal Government in power and in size.

                    This would also result in the “State” of DC having outsized influence on the actual functioning of the Federal Government. The general functions of running a city/state do not always run parallel with the functions of running the Capitol of the United States. Security requirements would top the list, but there would also be quite a few others…

                    No, you could cede some of NW and NE back to Maryland if you would like. That would be a reasonable compromise to give those people voting rights but without having outsized voting power on matters relating to their direct interest, but otherwise it’s a non-starter.

                    This. ⬆⬆

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                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      If the 580,000 people of Wyoming get two Senators, the 713,000 people of Washington D.C. should be able to get two Senators too.

                      Partisanship competitiveness is ephemeral. The democratic principle of fair representation should endure.

                      The Republican Party, like any other political parties, can work to earn the votes from Washington D.C.’s voters if and when Washington D.C gets its two Senate seats.

                      CopperC Online
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                      @Axtremus said in When you've lost Fetterman...:

                      The democratic principle of fair representation should endure.

                      It does not.

                      And DC statehood won't change that.

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