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The Demographics of Murder

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    @jolly and @mik have talked about the "culture of violence."

    https://datahazard.substack.com/p/american-murder

    The number that summarizes the past 2.5 years of post-BLM life in America. But why?

    1. 4.5% of Black Males will commit murder in their lifetime as of 2021, if we choose to do nothing about the ongoing epidemic of violence.
    2. 4.4% to 7.2% of yearly Black Male deaths are homicides every single year, with no exceptions, since at least 1968. Over 90% of these are Black Male-on-Black Male.
    3. 4.35% is the backward-looking 60-year murder victimization rate of Black Males age 15-74, based on the 410,000 actual murder victims since 1968.
    4. These are the low-end of what the rates could be in reality, given the large number of “unknowns” in the FBI data and the large number of “indeterminate” violent deaths coded by the CDC.
    5. Whatabout repeat offenders, you ask? The most extreme assumptions can bring the 4.5% down to as low as 3.3%. I ask: does that change our conclusions? Do we continue decarceration on the off-chance that only 3.3% will commit murder?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Axtremus
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      #2

      Thanks for sharing this, @George-K.

      Lots of data, many helpful tables, charts, and graphs in the article. I recommend clicking the link to see the tables, graphs, and charts.

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        The twitter feed

        https://twitter.com/fentasyl

        Lots of stuff to look at.

        For example, you can tell exactly where things went wrong (grin):

        image.png

        Traffic fatalities:

        image.png

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
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          What’s disturbing about that is the number for black women…

          The Brad

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          • George KG George K

            @jolly and @mik have talked about the "culture of violence."

            https://datahazard.substack.com/p/american-murder

            The number that summarizes the past 2.5 years of post-BLM life in America. But why?

            1. 4.5% of Black Males will commit murder in their lifetime as of 2021, if we choose to do nothing about the ongoing epidemic of violence.
            2. 4.4% to 7.2% of yearly Black Male deaths are homicides every single year, with no exceptions, since at least 1968. Over 90% of these are Black Male-on-Black Male.
            3. 4.35% is the backward-looking 60-year murder victimization rate of Black Males age 15-74, based on the 410,000 actual murder victims since 1968.
            4. These are the low-end of what the rates could be in reality, given the large number of “unknowns” in the FBI data and the large number of “indeterminate” violent deaths coded by the CDC.
            5. Whatabout repeat offenders, you ask? The most extreme assumptions can bring the 4.5% down to as low as 3.3%. I ask: does that change our conclusions? Do we continue decarceration on the off-chance that only 3.3% will commit murder?
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            Horace
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            @George-K said in The Demographics of Murder:

            4.5% of Black Males will commit murder in their lifetime as of 2021,

            That's amazing.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • MikM Offline
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              Mik
              wrote on last edited by Mik
              #6

              Ok, so is crossing the street when you see black males approaching still racist, or is it sensible precaution?

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • MikM Mik

                Ok, so is crossing the street when you see black males approaching still racist, or is it sensible precaution?

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                Horace
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                @Mik said in The Demographics of Murder:

                Ok, so is crossing the street when you see black males approaching still racist, or is it sensible precaution?

                Depends if he's wearing a mask. Also you're not a biologist.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Mik
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                  Point taken. 😀

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    Math is racist.

                    The Brad

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                    • George KG George K

                      @jolly and @mik have talked about the "culture of violence."

                      https://datahazard.substack.com/p/american-murder

                      The number that summarizes the past 2.5 years of post-BLM life in America. But why?

                      1. 4.5% of Black Males will commit murder in their lifetime as of 2021, if we choose to do nothing about the ongoing epidemic of violence.
                      2. 4.4% to 7.2% of yearly Black Male deaths are homicides every single year, with no exceptions, since at least 1968. Over 90% of these are Black Male-on-Black Male.
                      3. 4.35% is the backward-looking 60-year murder victimization rate of Black Males age 15-74, based on the 410,000 actual murder victims since 1968.
                      4. These are the low-end of what the rates could be in reality, given the large number of “unknowns” in the FBI data and the large number of “indeterminate” violent deaths coded by the CDC.
                      5. Whatabout repeat offenders, you ask? The most extreme assumptions can bring the 4.5% down to as low as 3.3%. I ask: does that change our conclusions? Do we continue decarceration on the off-chance that only 3.3% will commit murder?
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                      #10

                      @George-K said in The Demographics of Murder:

                      The number that summarizes the past 2.5 years of post-BLM life in America. But why?

                      My understanding is that you should ignore this to avoid being a racist.

                      You are on thin ice.

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