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"I have never noticed race more"

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    Jolly
    wrote on 25 Feb 2023, 14:00 last edited by
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    https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/02/minnesota-hs-student-principals-attempt-to-unify-us-ended-up-pitting-us-against-each-other-based-on-characteristics-we-cant-control/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 25 Feb 2023, 14:05 last edited by jon-nyc
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      Even before identity politics took its illiberal turn into wokeism, I always thought it was a moral and political dead end.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • J jon-nyc
        25 Feb 2023, 14:05

        Even before identity politics took its illiberal turn into wokeism, I always thought it was a moral and political dead end.

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        Horace
        wrote on 25 Feb 2023, 14:14 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in "I have never noticed race more":

        Even before identity politics took its illiberal turn into wokeism, I always thought it was a moral and political dead end.

        Thus your oft-noted appreciation for the GOP for being on the moral and politically wise side of that issue. And your understanding of why this played into the reasons people had for supporting Trump.

        Education is extremely important.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 25 Feb 2023, 14:43 last edited by
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          What I do not understand, is that we had a pretty good template.

          1. Controlled immigration, with melting pot assimilation.
          2. Equal rights for all citizens.
          3. To do our best to provide a good public education.
          4. To do our best to provide equal opportunity.
          5. To teach basic civics, emphasizing separation of powers and the Constitution.
          6. To promote "The American Dream".

          Now, that's not saying we might be found lacking in one or another of those factors, but as long as were striving for an ideal, we were making progress. Then, a very vocal minority decided to tear all that apart...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • J Jolly
            25 Feb 2023, 14:43

            What I do not understand, is that we had a pretty good template.

            1. Controlled immigration, with melting pot assimilation.
            2. Equal rights for all citizens.
            3. To do our best to provide a good public education.
            4. To do our best to provide equal opportunity.
            5. To teach basic civics, emphasizing separation of powers and the Constitution.
            6. To promote "The American Dream".

            Now, that's not saying we might be found lacking in one or another of those factors, but as long as were striving for an ideal, we were making progress. Then, a very vocal minority decided to tear all that apart...

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            Horace
            wrote on 25 Feb 2023, 14:59 last edited by
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            @Jolly said in "I have never noticed race more":

            What I do not understand, is that we had a pretty good template.

            1. Controlled immigration, with melting pot assimilation.
            2. Equal rights for all citizens.
            3. To do our best to provide a good public education.
            4. To do our best to provide equal opportunity.
            5. To teach basic civics, emphasizing separation of powers and the Constitution.
            6. To promote "The American Dream".

            Now, that's not saying we might be found lacking in one or another of those factors, but as long as were striving for an ideal, we were making progress. Then, a very vocal minority decided to tear all that apart...

            Since the left's primary vote gathering technique is emotional manipulation rather than thoughtful policy, they are literally in the business of spreading unhappiness.

            Education is extremely important.

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              25 Feb 2023, 14:43

              What I do not understand, is that we had a pretty good template.

              1. Controlled immigration, with melting pot assimilation.
              2. Equal rights for all citizens.
              3. To do our best to provide a good public education.
              4. To do our best to provide equal opportunity.
              5. To teach basic civics, emphasizing separation of powers and the Constitution.
              6. To promote "The American Dream".

              Now, that's not saying we might be found lacking in one or another of those factors, but as long as were striving for an ideal, we were making progress. Then, a very vocal minority decided to tear all that apart...

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 25 Feb 2023, 16:11 last edited by
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              @Jolly said in "I have never noticed race more":

              What I do not understand, is that we had a pretty good template.

              1. Controlled immigration, with melting pot assimilation.
              2. Equal rights for all citizens.
              3. To do our best to provide a good public education.
              4. To do our best to provide equal opportunity.
              5. To teach basic civics, emphasizing separation of powers and the Constitution.
              6. To promote "The American Dream".

              Now, that's not saying we might be found lacking in one or another of those factors, but as long as we’re striving for an ideal, we were making progress. Then, a very vocal minority decided to tear all that apart...

              Equal ≠ Equitable
              Equitable ≠ Equitable Outcome
              If W > B , then subtract from W until =.

              The Brad

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              • L LuFins Dad
                25 Feb 2023, 16:11

                @Jolly said in "I have never noticed race more":

                What I do not understand, is that we had a pretty good template.

                1. Controlled immigration, with melting pot assimilation.
                2. Equal rights for all citizens.
                3. To do our best to provide a good public education.
                4. To do our best to provide equal opportunity.
                5. To teach basic civics, emphasizing separation of powers and the Constitution.
                6. To promote "The American Dream".

                Now, that's not saying we might be found lacking in one or another of those factors, but as long as we’re striving for an ideal, we were making progress. Then, a very vocal minority decided to tear all that apart...

                Equal ≠ Equitable
                Equitable ≠ Equitable Outcome
                If W > B , then subtract from W until =.

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                wrote on 25 Feb 2023, 16:16 last edited by
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                @LuFins-Dad said in "I have never noticed race more":

                @Jolly said in "I have never noticed race more":

                What I do not understand, is that we had a pretty good template.

                1. Controlled immigration, with melting pot assimilation.
                2. Equal rights for all citizens.
                3. To do our best to provide a good public education.
                4. To do our best to provide equal opportunity.
                5. To teach basic civics, emphasizing separation of powers and the Constitution.
                6. To promote "The American Dream".

                Now, that's not saying we might be found lacking in one or another of those factors, but as long as we’re striving for an ideal, we were making progress. Then, a very vocal minority decided to tear all that apart...

                Equal ≠ Equitable
                Equitable ≠ Equitable Outcome
                If W > B , then subtract from W until =.

                Absolutely not. They don't stop there.

                Please love yourself.

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 25 Feb 2023, 18:09 last edited by
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                  At this point one’s equality and success depends on them. Now you may run into some people in power who don’t particularly care for black folks, but I can tell you I have run into a any number of folks in power who did not care for me for whatever reason. It really doesn’t matter what the reason is. You either find a way to overcome it, move on or live with it. It does not have to make you a loser.

                  Liberation at this point is all individual. You can decide to be a victim or a victor. It’s up to you. The blockers that can be addressed legislatively have been.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • M Mik
                    25 Feb 2023, 18:09

                    At this point one’s equality and success depends on them. Now you may run into some people in power who don’t particularly care for black folks, but I can tell you I have run into a any number of folks in power who did not care for me for whatever reason. It really doesn’t matter what the reason is. You either find a way to overcome it, move on or live with it. It does not have to make you a loser.

                    Liberation at this point is all individual. You can decide to be a victim or a victor. It’s up to you. The blockers that can be addressed legislatively have been.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 25 Feb 2023, 18:38 last edited by Horace
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                    @Mik said in "I have never noticed race more":

                    At this point one’s equality and success depends on them. Now you may run into some people in power who don’t particularly care for black folks, but I can tell you I have run into a any number of folks in power who did not care for me for whatever reason. It really doesn’t matter what the reason is. You either find a way to overcome it, move on or live with it. It does not have to make you a loser.

                    Liberation at this point is all individual. You can decide to be a victim or a victor. It’s up to you. The blockers that can be addressed legislatively have been.

                    And it's essentially impossible to disentangle the reasons a person in power seems not to favor you. Then we teach kids who look a certain way, that people will often hate them because of how they look. We also teach them that they have ultimate, unquestionable authority to know that hatred when they see it. Voila, permanent racism, which nobody who doesn't look a certain way, could ever possibly understand.

                    Education is extremely important.

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