The death of MAGA
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
It's because many Americans are wondering why the Europeans don't take care of a European problem.
How in the hell can you possibly look at what's actually happening and claim it's not our problem. It's our problem whether we want it to be or not.
Without a declaration of war by Hitler, I'm not sure Roosevelt would have sent troops to Europe in 1942.
And things were much dicier at that time. Beware the words of Washington...
I agree, he likely would have waited until at least Midway in June ‘42 before committing Europe. Although increased German u-boat activity against US ships could have forced that date earlier and Hitler declared war anyway, your point is moot to the conversation.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
It's because many Americans are wondering why the Europeans don't take care of a European problem.
How in the hell can you possibly look at what's actually happening and claim it's not our problem. It's our problem whether we want it to be or not.
Without a declaration of war by Hitler, I'm not sure Roosevelt would have sent troops to Europe in 1942.
And things were much dicier at that time. Beware the words of Washington...
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
It's because many Americans are wondering why the Europeans don't take care of a European problem.
How in the hell can you possibly look at what's actually happening and claim it's not our problem. It's our problem whether we want it to be or not.
Without a declaration of war by Hitler, I'm not sure Roosevelt would have sent troops to Europe in 1942.
Oh yes he would. He laid a ton of groundwork with the Brits and the Canadians to get America ready long before war was declared. He saw it was inevitable. Which it was.
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@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
It's because many Americans are wondering why the Europeans don't take care of a European problem.
How in the hell can you possibly look at what's actually happening and claim it's not our problem. It's our problem whether we want it to be or not.
Without a declaration of war by Hitler, I'm not sure Roosevelt would have sent troops to Europe in 1942.
Oh yes he would. He laid a ton of groundwork with the Brits and the Canadians to get America ready long before war was declared. He saw it was inevitable. Which it was.
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
It's because many Americans are wondering why the Europeans don't take care of a European problem.
How in the hell can you possibly look at what's actually happening and claim it's not our problem. It's our problem whether we want it to be or not.
Without a declaration of war by Hitler, I'm not sure Roosevelt would have sent troops to Europe in 1942.
Oh yes he would. He laid a ton of groundwork with the Brits and the Canadians to get America ready long before war was declared. He saw it was inevitable. Which it was.
The America First Committee was formed in 1940 and by 1941 had 400,000 - 450,000 members. Those members included many prominent or famous people, from Lindbergh to Lillian Gish to Eddie Rickenbacker. The first head of the organization was a retired general, who at the time was chairman of Sears, Roebuck & Co. Other, younger members included Gerald R. Ford and John F. Kennedy.
Politicians on both sides of the aisle supported the basic idea of America First. So much so, it took FDR two months of arm-twisting and dealing (both of which he was good at) to get Lend-Lease through Congress.
The AFC disbanded after Pearl harbor and Hitler's declaration of war.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
It's because many Americans are wondering why the Europeans don't take care of a European problem.
How in the hell can you possibly look at what's actually happening and claim it's not our problem. It's our problem whether we want it to be or not.
Without a declaration of war by Hitler, I'm not sure Roosevelt would have sent troops to Europe in 1942.
Oh yes he would. He laid a ton of groundwork with the Brits and the Canadians to get America ready long before war was declared. He saw it was inevitable. Which it was.
The America First Committee was formed in 1940 and by 1941 had 400,000 - 450,000 members. Those members included many prominent or famous people, from Lindbergh to Lillian Gish to Eddie Rickenbacker. The first head of the organization was a retired general, who at the time was chairman of Sears, Roebuck & Co. Other, younger members included Gerald R. Ford and John F. Kennedy.
Politicians on both sides of the aisle supported the basic idea of America First. So much so, it took FDR two months of arm-twisting and dealing (both of which he was good at) to get Lend-Lease through Congress.
The AFC disbanded after Pearl harbor and Hitler's declaration of war.
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
It's because many Americans are wondering why the Europeans don't take care of a European problem.
How in the hell can you possibly look at what's actually happening and claim it's not our problem. It's our problem whether we want it to be or not.
Without a declaration of war by Hitler, I'm not sure Roosevelt would have sent troops to Europe in 1942.
Oh yes he would. He laid a ton of groundwork with the Brits and the Canadians to get America ready long before war was declared. He saw it was inevitable. Which it was.
The America First Committee was formed in 1940 and by 1941 had 400,000 - 450,000 members. Those members included many prominent or famous people, from Lindbergh to Lillian Gish to Eddie Rickenbacker. The first head of the organization was a retired general, who at the time was chairman of Sears, Roebuck & Co. Other, younger members included Gerald R. Ford and John F. Kennedy.
Politicians on both sides of the aisle supported the basic idea of America First. So much so, it took FDR two months of arm-twisting and dealing (both of which he was good at) to get Lend-Lease through Congress.
The AFC disbanded after Pearl harbor and Hitler's declaration of war.
https://www.history.com/.amp/this-day-in-history/british-king-visits-u-s
This was not a social call. The British, and to some extent the Canadians, had continuous talks before 1939 and after, with FDR about how to warm Americans up to inevitable involvement in Europe.
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@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
It's because many Americans are wondering why the Europeans don't take care of a European problem.
How in the hell can you possibly look at what's actually happening and claim it's not our problem. It's our problem whether we want it to be or not.
Without a declaration of war by Hitler, I'm not sure Roosevelt would have sent troops to Europe in 1942.
Oh yes he would. He laid a ton of groundwork with the Brits and the Canadians to get America ready long before war was declared. He saw it was inevitable. Which it was.
The America First Committee was formed in 1940 and by 1941 had 400,000 - 450,000 members. Those members included many prominent or famous people, from Lindbergh to Lillian Gish to Eddie Rickenbacker. The first head of the organization was a retired general, who at the time was chairman of Sears, Roebuck & Co. Other, younger members included Gerald R. Ford and John F. Kennedy.
Politicians on both sides of the aisle supported the basic idea of America First. So much so, it took FDR two months of arm-twisting and dealing (both of which he was good at) to get Lend-Lease through Congress.
The AFC disbanded after Pearl harbor and Hitler's declaration of war.
https://www.history.com/.amp/this-day-in-history/british-king-visits-u-s
This was not a social call. The British, and to some extent the Canadians, had continuous talks before 1939 and after, with FDR about how to warm Americans up to inevitable involvement in Europe.
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
It's because many Americans are wondering why the Europeans don't take care of a European problem.
How in the hell can you possibly look at what's actually happening and claim it's not our problem. It's our problem whether we want it to be or not.
Without a declaration of war by Hitler, I'm not sure Roosevelt would have sent troops to Europe in 1942.
Oh yes he would. He laid a ton of groundwork with the Brits and the Canadians to get America ready long before war was declared. He saw it was inevitable. Which it was.
The America First Committee was formed in 1940 and by 1941 had 400,000 - 450,000 members. Those members included many prominent or famous people, from Lindbergh to Lillian Gish to Eddie Rickenbacker. The first head of the organization was a retired general, who at the time was chairman of Sears, Roebuck & Co. Other, younger members included Gerald R. Ford and John F. Kennedy.
Politicians on both sides of the aisle supported the basic idea of America First. So much so, it took FDR two months of arm-twisting and dealing (both of which he was good at) to get Lend-Lease through Congress.
The AFC disbanded after Pearl harbor and Hitler's declaration of war.
https://www.history.com/.amp/this-day-in-history/british-king-visits-u-s
This was not a social call. The British, and to some extent the Canadians, had continuous talks before 1939 and after, with FDR about how to warm Americans up to inevitable involvement in Europe.
And FDR was dragging them, kicking and screaming. After The Great War, many Americans had little stomach for U.S. boys dying on European ground.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
It's because many Americans are wondering why the Europeans don't take care of a European problem.
How in the hell can you possibly look at what's actually happening and claim it's not our problem. It's our problem whether we want it to be or not.
Without a declaration of war by Hitler, I'm not sure Roosevelt would have sent troops to Europe in 1942.
Oh yes he would. He laid a ton of groundwork with the Brits and the Canadians to get America ready long before war was declared. He saw it was inevitable. Which it was.
The America First Committee was formed in 1940 and by 1941 had 400,000 - 450,000 members. Those members included many prominent or famous people, from Lindbergh to Lillian Gish to Eddie Rickenbacker. The first head of the organization was a retired general, who at the time was chairman of Sears, Roebuck & Co. Other, younger members included Gerald R. Ford and John F. Kennedy.
Politicians on both sides of the aisle supported the basic idea of America First. So much so, it took FDR two months of arm-twisting and dealing (both of which he was good at) to get Lend-Lease through Congress.
The AFC disbanded after Pearl harbor and Hitler's declaration of war.
https://www.history.com/.amp/this-day-in-history/british-king-visits-u-s
This was not a social call. The British, and to some extent the Canadians, had continuous talks before 1939 and after, with FDR about how to warm Americans up to inevitable involvement in Europe.
And FDR was dragging them, kicking and screaming. After The Great War, many Americans had little stomach for U.S. boys dying on European ground.
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
It's because many Americans are wondering why the Europeans don't take care of a European problem.
How in the hell can you possibly look at what's actually happening and claim it's not our problem. It's our problem whether we want it to be or not.
Without a declaration of war by Hitler, I'm not sure Roosevelt would have sent troops to Europe in 1942.
Oh yes he would. He laid a ton of groundwork with the Brits and the Canadians to get America ready long before war was declared. He saw it was inevitable. Which it was.
The America First Committee was formed in 1940 and by 1941 had 400,000 - 450,000 members. Those members included many prominent or famous people, from Lindbergh to Lillian Gish to Eddie Rickenbacker. The first head of the organization was a retired general, who at the time was chairman of Sears, Roebuck & Co. Other, younger members included Gerald R. Ford and John F. Kennedy.
Politicians on both sides of the aisle supported the basic idea of America First. So much so, it took FDR two months of arm-twisting and dealing (both of which he was good at) to get Lend-Lease through Congress.
The AFC disbanded after Pearl harbor and Hitler's declaration of war.
https://www.history.com/.amp/this-day-in-history/british-king-visits-u-s
This was not a social call. The British, and to some extent the Canadians, had continuous talks before 1939 and after, with FDR about how to warm Americans up to inevitable involvement in Europe.
And FDR was dragging them, kicking and screaming. After The Great War, many Americans had little stomach for U.S. boys dying on European ground.
I don't understand what your point is, other than illustrating how ignorant some Americans are about the futility of isolationism.
Please love yourself.
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And FDR was dragging them, kicking and screaming. After The Great War, many Americans had little stomach for U.S. boys dying on European ground.
True that Admiral King and the navy were only interested in fighting the Japanese. Not so certain about the Army. They were pretty gung-ho about fighting Gerry. A lot of midwestern folks were not too impressed with Mr. Hitler and what he was doing to their ancestral homelands.
Elbows up!
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@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
It's because many Americans are wondering why the Europeans don't take care of a European problem.
How in the hell can you possibly look at what's actually happening and claim it's not our problem. It's our problem whether we want it to be or not.
Without a declaration of war by Hitler, I'm not sure Roosevelt would have sent troops to Europe in 1942.
Oh yes he would. He laid a ton of groundwork with the Brits and the Canadians to get America ready long before war was declared. He saw it was inevitable. Which it was.
The America First Committee was formed in 1940 and by 1941 had 400,000 - 450,000 members. Those members included many prominent or famous people, from Lindbergh to Lillian Gish to Eddie Rickenbacker. The first head of the organization was a retired general, who at the time was chairman of Sears, Roebuck & Co. Other, younger members included Gerald R. Ford and John F. Kennedy.
Politicians on both sides of the aisle supported the basic idea of America First. So much so, it took FDR two months of arm-twisting and dealing (both of which he was good at) to get Lend-Lease through Congress.
The AFC disbanded after Pearl harbor and Hitler's declaration of war.
https://www.history.com/.amp/this-day-in-history/british-king-visits-u-s
This was not a social call. The British, and to some extent the Canadians, had continuous talks before 1939 and after, with FDR about how to warm Americans up to inevitable involvement in Europe.
And FDR was dragging them, kicking and screaming. After The Great War, many Americans had little stomach for U.S. boys dying on European ground.
I don't understand what your point is, other than illustrating how ignorant some Americans are about the futility of isolationism.
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The death of MAGA:
@Jolly said in The death of MAGA:
It's because many Americans are wondering why the Europeans don't take care of a European problem.
How in the hell can you possibly look at what's actually happening and claim it's not our problem. It's our problem whether we want it to be or not.
Without a declaration of war by Hitler, I'm not sure Roosevelt would have sent troops to Europe in 1942.
Oh yes he would. He laid a ton of groundwork with the Brits and the Canadians to get America ready long before war was declared. He saw it was inevitable. Which it was.
The America First Committee was formed in 1940 and by 1941 had 400,000 - 450,000 members. Those members included many prominent or famous people, from Lindbergh to Lillian Gish to Eddie Rickenbacker. The first head of the organization was a retired general, who at the time was chairman of Sears, Roebuck & Co. Other, younger members included Gerald R. Ford and John F. Kennedy.
Politicians on both sides of the aisle supported the basic idea of America First. So much so, it took FDR two months of arm-twisting and dealing (both of which he was good at) to get Lend-Lease through Congress.
The AFC disbanded after Pearl harbor and Hitler's declaration of war.
https://www.history.com/.amp/this-day-in-history/british-king-visits-u-s
This was not a social call. The British, and to some extent the Canadians, had continuous talks before 1939 and after, with FDR about how to warm Americans up to inevitable involvement in Europe.
And FDR was dragging them, kicking and screaming. After The Great War, many Americans had little stomach for U.S. boys dying on European ground.
I don't understand what your point is, other than illustrating how ignorant some Americans are about the futility of isolationism.
You’d think American mistakes in the 1930’s would be a lesson rather than a model
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And FDR was dragging them, kicking and screaming. After The Great War, many Americans had little stomach for U.S. boys dying on European ground.
True that Admiral King and the navy were only interested in fighting the Japanese. Not so certain about the Army. They were pretty gung-ho about fighting Gerry. A lot of midwestern folks were not too impressed with Mr. Hitler and what he was doing to their ancestral homelands.
@Renauda said in The death of MAGA:
And FDR was dragging them, kicking and screaming. After The Great War, many Americans had little stomach for U.S. boys dying on European ground.
True that Admiral King and the navy were only interested in fighting the Japanese. Not so certain about the Army. They were pretty gung-ho about fighting Gerry. A lot of midwestern folks were not too impressed with Mr. Hitler and what he was doing to their ancestral homelands.
AFC was strongest in the Midwest, especially in the Chicago area. The Army has an out-sized percentage of Southerners, even today. The South has an awful lot of Scotch-Irish folks...If they don't have someone else to fight, they'll fight each other.
