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Helicopters are dangerous

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    Especially when you tie four of them together.

    Link to video

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Unanticipated vibrations. LMFAO

      Whoever thought this was a good idea and the people that then allowed it to proceed are freaking idiots.

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        The sole prototype was lost during a test flight, killing a test pilot and injuring another four in the course of a single incident.[

        I assume there was a pilot in each helicopter

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piasecki_PA-97_Helistat

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        • George KG George K

          Especially when you tie four of them together.

          Link to video

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          @George-K said in Helicopters are dangerous:

          Especially when you tie four of them together.

          Link to video

          Terrific.

          Please love yourself.

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            Unanticipated vibrations. LMFAO

            Whoever thought this was a good idea and the people that then allowed it to proceed are freaking idiots.

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            @mark said in Helicopters are dangerous:

            Unanticipated vibrations.

            Looks like the project was from a time before extensive computer simulation of the design was feasible.

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              @mark said in Helicopters are dangerous:

              Unanticipated vibrations.

              Looks like the project was from a time before extensive computer simulation of the design was feasible.

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              @Axtremus

              The PA-97 was built under a 1980 U.S. Navy contract for the Forest Service to demonstrate a heavy vertical airlifter for harvesting timber from inaccessible terrain. The single demonstrator used a retired Navy ZPG-2W blimp envelope and four Sikorsky H-34J helicopters. The combination of a large blimp with powered lift made the 343 foot (104.57 m) long helistat the largest dynamic lift aircraft in the world.[1]

              The helicopters used were aged examples of a long-established design. Their tail rotors were removed, their fuselages shortened and they were attached to a crude tubular aluminum framework beneath the helium-filled envelope. Four freely-castering twin-wheel bogies beneath the framework provided the undercarriage. Criticism has been expressed of the structural qualities and stress analysis of this framework.[3]

              Test flights were made from the Naval Air Engineering Station Lakehurst in New Jersey, making use of the long-established hangars for handling large airships. First flight was on 26 April 1986.[4]

              On 1 July 1986, the PA-97 crashed immediately after liftoff on a test flight, killing one of the pilots.[3][5]

              A gust of wind from the rear of the aircraft induced some movement across the ramp. The undercarriage responded badly to this, the bogies shimmying uncontrollably.[3] Vibration in the framework then coupled with a helicopter phenomenon known as ground resonance.[3] The vibration was sufficient to cause a structural failure as the starboard rear helicopter broke off its mounting, its rotors cutting into the gasbag.[3] The unbalanced lift then made the vibrations worse and the remaining three helicopters broke free.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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