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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    Link to video

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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      Aqua Letifer
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      "You can see the boomer mindset by the success of the movie Star Wars."

      Gen-Xers single-handedly solidified that franchise into our culture. And Gen Xers, not Boomers, were the audience.

      This guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

      Please love yourself.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        "You can see the boomer mindset by the success of the movie Star Wars."

        Gen-Xers single-handedly solidified that franchise into our culture. And Gen Xers, not Boomers, were the audience.

        This guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

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        Jolly
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        #3

        @Aqua-Letifer said in A Generation of Sociopaths:

        "You can see the boomer mindset by the success of the movie Star Wars."

        Gen-Xers single-handedly solidified that franchise into our culture. And Gen Xers, not Boomers, were the audience.

        This guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

        No boomers, the movie is a flop and nobody remembers it, but a small cadre of SF fans when it shows up on Netflix.

        The movie itself is a coming of age/fighter pilot/galactic western, genres which appeal to boomers.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @Aqua-Letifer said in A Generation of Sociopaths:

          "You can see the boomer mindset by the success of the movie Star Wars."

          Gen-Xers single-handedly solidified that franchise into our culture. And Gen Xers, not Boomers, were the audience.

          This guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

          No boomers, the movie is a flop and nobody remembers it, but a small cadre of SF fans when it shows up on Netflix.

          The movie itself is a coming of age/fighter pilot/galactic western, genres which appeal to boomers.

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          Aqua Letifer
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          #4

          @Jolly said in A Generation of Sociopaths:

          @Aqua-Letifer said in A Generation of Sociopaths:

          "You can see the boomer mindset by the success of the movie Star Wars."

          Gen-Xers single-handedly solidified that franchise into our culture. And Gen Xers, not Boomers, were the audience.

          This guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

          No boomers, the movie is a flop and nobody remembers it, but a small cadre of SF fans when it shows up on Netflix.

          The movie itself is a coming of age/fighter pilot/galactic western, genres which appeal to boomers.

          It was made with 14-year-olds in mind. Lucas wrote it that way according to him, and the effects were made with kids in mind, according to the effects team.

          Please love yourself.

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            #5

            It came out in 77, IIRC.

            The last boomers were born in 64.

            Production started in 73. If it was written for a 14 year-old, that person would have been born in 1959. Or possibly before.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              It came out in 77, IIRC.

              The last boomers were born in 64.

              Production started in 73. If it was written for a 14 year-old, that person would have been born in 1959. Or possibly before.

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              Aqua Letifer
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              @Jolly said in A Generation of Sociopaths:

              It came out in 77, IIRC.

              The last boomers were born in 64.

              They weren't the ones who championed it, though. Look at box office sales across the franchise. Force Awakens lifetime gross is nearly $1B. Episode IV was $138m.

              You're claiming boomers should take credit for Star Wars but when they were the target audience, they didn't vote with their dollars nearly as much as Gen X and Millennials. Shit man go to any house in America that features Star Wars figurines, books on a bookshelf, posters on the wall and tell me whether or not they're boomers. This is a ridiculous argument.

              Please love yourself.

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              • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                I was born in 63 and saw Star Wars when it came out. Nobody I grew up with turned it into the ridiculous cult it became.

                I remember making fun of the movies to a kid in his early 20's in about 2000, and being surprised by how upset he got.

                Disclaimer: I haven't watched the video. I don't want to waste 35 minutes of my life being told I'm an asshole by some loser without a real job on YouTube.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  I was born in 63 and saw Star Wars when it came out. Nobody I grew up with turned it into the ridiculous cult it became.

                  I remember making fun of the movies to a kid in his early 20's in about 2000, and being surprised by how upset he got.

                  Disclaimer: I haven't watched the video. I don't want to waste 35 minutes of my life being told I'm an asshole by some loser without a real job on YouTube.

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                  Aqua Letifer
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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in A Generation of Sociopaths:

                  Disclaimer: I haven't watched the video. I don't want to waste 35 minutes of my life being told I'm an asshole by some loser without a real job on YouTube.

                  It starts out with stock footage of a satellite view of Earth with voiceover and goes as expected from there.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in A Generation of Sociopaths:

                    Disclaimer: I haven't watched the video. I don't want to waste 35 minutes of my life being told I'm an asshole by some loser without a real job on YouTube.

                    It starts out with stock footage of a satellite view of Earth with voiceover and goes as expected from there.

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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    @Aqua-Letifer said in A Generation of Sociopaths:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in A Generation of Sociopaths:

                    Disclaimer: I haven't watched the video. I don't want to waste 35 minutes of my life being told I'm an asshole by some loser without a real job on YouTube.

                    It starts out with stock footage of a satellite view of Earth with voiceover and goes as expected from there.

                    I was fully expecting somebody to respond to my post with 'OK, boomer'. In fact, I tried to log in as JD in order to do, but apparently I never created the account.

                    I was only joking

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                      Anyway, it wasn't boomers who created two world wars and killed countless millions of innocents back in the good old days when everything was fucking awesome.

                      I was only joking

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                        I can see connections with baby boomers to James Bond movies with Connery and maybe a couple with Moore, Sergio Leone’s trilogy of spaghetti westerns featuring Eastwood, Steve McQueen flicks and possibly even the First two Godfather epics.

                        I would also say okay to the original TV series of Star Trek.

                        But Star Wars? No way.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          The book the video is based upon us a 4.5 star book on Amazon. The description...

                          What happens when a society is run by people who are antisocial? Welcome to baby boomer America.

                          In A Generation of Sociopaths, Bruce Cannon Gibney shows how America was hijacked by the boomers, a generation whose reckless self-indulgence degraded the foundations of American prosperity. A former partner in a leading venture capital firm, Gibney examines the disastrous policies of the most powerful generation in modern history, showing how the boomers ruthlessly enriched themselves at the expense of future generations.

                          Acting without empathy, prudence, or respect for facts - acting, in other words, as sociopaths - the boomers turned American dynamism into stagnation, inequality, and bipartisan fiasco. The boomers have set a time bomb for the 2030s, when damage to Social Security, public finances, and the environment will become catastrophic and possibly irreversible - and when, not coincidentally, boomers will be dying off.

                          Gibney, whose 2011 essay "What Happened to the Future?" transfixed the investment world, argues that younger generations have a fleeting window to hold the boomers accountable and begin restoring America. Distilling deep research into a witty, colorful indictment of the boomers and an urgent defense of the once-unquestioned value of society, A Generation of Sociopaths is poised to become one of the most controversial books of the year.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            The book the video is based upon us a 4.5 star book on Amazon. The description...

                            What happens when a society is run by people who are antisocial? Welcome to baby boomer America.

                            In A Generation of Sociopaths, Bruce Cannon Gibney shows how America was hijacked by the boomers, a generation whose reckless self-indulgence degraded the foundations of American prosperity. A former partner in a leading venture capital firm, Gibney examines the disastrous policies of the most powerful generation in modern history, showing how the boomers ruthlessly enriched themselves at the expense of future generations.

                            Acting without empathy, prudence, or respect for facts - acting, in other words, as sociopaths - the boomers turned American dynamism into stagnation, inequality, and bipartisan fiasco. The boomers have set a time bomb for the 2030s, when damage to Social Security, public finances, and the environment will become catastrophic and possibly irreversible - and when, not coincidentally, boomers will be dying off.

                            Gibney, whose 2011 essay "What Happened to the Future?" transfixed the investment world, argues that younger generations have a fleeting window to hold the boomers accountable and begin restoring America. Distilling deep research into a witty, colorful indictment of the boomers and an urgent defense of the once-unquestioned value of society, A Generation of Sociopaths is poised to become one of the most controversial books of the year.

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                            @Jolly said in A Generation of Sociopaths:

                            The book the video is based upon us a 4.5 star book on Amazon. The description...

                            What happens when a society is run by people who are antisocial? Welcome to baby boomer America.

                            In A Generation of Sociopaths, Bruce Cannon Gibney shows how America was hijacked by the boomers, a generation whose reckless self-indulgence degraded the foundations of American prosperity. A former partner in a leading venture capital firm, Gibney examines the disastrous policies of the most powerful generation in modern history, showing how the boomers ruthlessly enriched themselves at the expense of future generations.

                            Acting without empathy, prudence, or respect for facts - acting, in other words, as sociopaths - the boomers turned American dynamism into stagnation, inequality, and bipartisan fiasco. The boomers have set a time bomb for the 2030s, when damage to Social Security, public finances, and the environment will become catastrophic and possibly irreversible - and when, not coincidentally, boomers will be dying off.

                            Gibney, whose 2011 essay "What Happened to the Future?" transfixed the investment world, argues that younger generations have a fleeting window to hold the boomers accountable and begin restoring America. Distilling deep research into a witty, colorful indictment of the boomers and an urgent defense of the once-unquestioned value of society, A Generation of Sociopaths is poised to become one of the most controversial books of the year.

                            I think the problem with the book is that he thinks his corner of expertise can explain more than it does. (Which is why I mentioned the Star Wars thing.) Cultural trends that catch fire do so because they fill gaps. There was something collectively missing that the new thing fulfills. You're always going to have that. It doesn't necessarily have to do with finances and it doesn't necessarily make boomers sociopaths.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • MikM Away
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                              Mik
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                              We're antisocial? Well, we can stop right now, that coming from a generation that is losing the ability to communicate directly.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • MikM Mik

                                We're antisocial? Well, we can stop right now, that coming from a generation that is losing the ability to communicate directly.

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                                Renauda
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                                @Mik

                                Well said.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  Anti social, moi?

                                  He can FOAD.

                                  I was only joking

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