I, for one, welcome our new robot radiologists
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Good news. I imagine diagnoses in general are a perfect opportunity for AI to make a positive difference. In this case with an xray the input data is exactly specified and available, so it's an optimal sort of situation. But in general, an AI should be able to diagnose, or request relevant tests, based on other formalized sets of input data. I am sure many doctors will push back on that.
Education is extremely important.
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It always seemed like the ideal use case in medicine. It is strict pattern recognition after all. The real interesting application will be in early detection of malignancies or pre-malignant cells. That could be a real game changer.
A related, interesting factoid: machine learning models can tell the if an eye belongs to a male of female with near perfect accuracy, the best ophthalmologists basically don’t outperform a coin flip.
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Good stuff, indeed.
One of the things that always scared me about radiology (and pathology) was, "What if I miss that cancer?"
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Good stuff, indeed.
One of the things that always scared me about radiology (and pathology) was, "What if I miss that cancer?"
@George-K said in I, for one, welcome our new robot radiologists:
Good stuff, indeed.
One of the things that always scared me about radiology (and pathology) was, "What if I miss that cancer?"
Dr. Joe, affectionately known as The Great White, said his job as a pathologist was to give the clinician an answer. It might be his best guess, but by God, you were going to get an answer.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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Good news. I imagine diagnoses in general are a perfect opportunity for AI to make a positive difference. In this case with an xray the input data is exactly specified and available, so it's an optimal sort of situation. But in general, an AI should be able to diagnose, or request relevant tests, based on other formalized sets of input data. I am sure many doctors will push back on that.
@Horace said in I, for one, welcome our new robot radiologists:
Good news. I imagine diagnoses in general are a perfect opportunity for AI to make a positive difference. In this case with an xray the input data is exactly specified and available, so it's an optimal sort of situation. But in general, an AI should be able to diagnose, or request relevant tests, based on other formalized sets of input data. I am sure many doctors will push back on that.
An added bonus is if the AI does fuck up, it can write a poem about the experience in the style of Dr. Seuss which can be read out at your funeral.
There aren't many human doctors who could or would do that.
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@George-K said in I, for one, welcome our new robot radiologists:
Good stuff, indeed.
One of the things that always scared me about radiology (and pathology) was, "What if I miss that cancer?"
Dr. Joe, affectionately known as The Great White, said his job as a pathologist was to give the clinician an answer. It might be his best guess, but by God, you were going to get an answer.
@Jolly said in I, for one, welcome our new robot radiologists:
his job as a pathologist was to give the clinician an answer
True story:
We were in the middle of a craniotomy for tumor, and the Stan, the neurosurgeon sent a frozen specimen down to pathology.
20 minutes later, "Hi, this is Dr. H in pathology. We have all looked at this specimen, and we think it's a meningioma."
Stan was an outspoken kind of guy.
"What the FUCK? You ALL looked at it and you THINK it's a meningioma? It's not that. It's in middle of this guy's brain. It's either an astrocytoma or a GBM!"
Dr. H: "Well, it could be that."
Not exactly confidence-inspiring.
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@Jolly said in I, for one, welcome our new robot radiologists:
his job as a pathologist was to give the clinician an answer
True story:
We were in the middle of a craniotomy for tumor, and the Stan, the neurosurgeon sent a frozen specimen down to pathology.
20 minutes later, "Hi, this is Dr. H in pathology. We have all looked at this specimen, and we think it's a meningioma."
Stan was an outspoken kind of guy.
"What the FUCK? You ALL looked at it and you THINK it's a meningioma? It's not that. It's in middle of this guy's brain. It's either an astrocytoma or a GBM!"
Dr. H: "Well, it could be that."
Not exactly confidence-inspiring.
@George-K said in I, for one, welcome our new robot radiologists:
@Jolly said in I, for one, welcome our new robot radiologists:
his job as a pathologist was to give the clinician an answer
True story:
We were in the middle of a craniotomy for tumor, and the Stan, the neurosurgeon sent a frozen specimen down to pathology.
20 minutes later, "Hi, this is Dr. H in pathology. We have all looked at this specimen, and we think it's a meningioma."
Stan was an outspoken kind of guy.
"What the FUCK? You ALL looked at it and you THINK it's a meningioma? It's not that. It's in middle of this guy's brain. It's either an astrocytoma or a GBM!"
Dr. H: "Well, it could be that."
Not exactly confidence-inspiring.
Dr. Tom was in partnership with Dr. Joe. Dr. Tom was extremely well-liked, but he would drive you nuts. Also white-haired, but with metal rim half-glasses and that accent...You have to live down here to know it...That accent bespeaks old money and extremely well educated.
Dr. Tom graduated from Vanderbilt Medical School after completing his bachelor's degrees in Zoology and Fine Art. He was an accomplished sculpturer and painter. He taught at Vanderbilt Medical School after a brief foray into the private world. As his family became larger and older, he moved back home to the family's plantation and went into private practice with Dr. Joe and another path.
I don't know if I have ever heard him make a definitive diagnosis. It was always "suggests", "appears like", "is consistent with", etc.
Absolutely maddening...
