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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #30

    As I was watching (parts of) the speech, it reminded me of a high school pep rally.

    NRO has a similar opinion.

    The origin of the practice stems from the executive’s duty under Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution, which obligates him to “give to Congress information of the State of the Union and recommend to their Consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient.”

    The language of this clause is not specific, which is why the “Annual Message,” as it was known from 1790 to 1946, was delivered as a written statement by every president from Thomas Jefferson to William Howard Taft. Say what you will about the Sage of Monticello; he knew that the second branch of government should stay in its lane. In 1913, arguable proto-fascist Woodrow Wilson decided to break from this republican tradition, delivering an in-person address, and the speech has never been the same.

    Today’s SOTU has lost all pretense of humility and, much like the presidency itself, has completely eclipsed what the framers of the Constitution envisioned. Rather than a detailed report on the problems facing the nation and how Congress can ameliorate them, the speech has become another opportunity for presidents to exercise their bully pulpit. It’s nothing more than a glorified campaign rally.

    This desecration of the People’s House should incense everyone who thinks the emergence of an imperial presidency is a negative development and an affront to the Founders’ vision. Perhaps a more civic-minded commander-in-chief can ditch the practice and go back to delivering a written report, but consider me skeptical. Why would any rational political actor cede such a golden opportunity to make a case for his agenda to the American people? But as long as we’re stuck with this ostentatious spectacle, it’s important to remember that this is not who we are.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on last edited by
      #31

      They should have Prince Harry come in and read it all dressed up in ermine and shit.

      You know you want to.

      I was only joking

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      • AxtremusA Offline
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        Axtremus
        wrote on last edited by
        #32

        SOTU reaction poll:
        https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23601613-cnn-sotu-reaction-poll

        72% positive, 28% negative.

        George KG 1 Reply Last reply
        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          SOTU reaction poll:
          https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23601613-cnn-sotu-reaction-poll

          72% positive, 28% negative.

          George KG Offline
          George KG Offline
          George K
          wrote on last edited by George K
          #33

          @Axtremus about the same not as good as Trump.

          Screenshot 2023-02-09 at 6.31.45 AM.png

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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

          jon-nycJ 1 Reply Last reply
          • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on last edited by
            #34

            SOTU? More like STFU amirite? I mean eh? EH? AMIRITE??

            Please love yourself.

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #35

              You could be right.

              Nobody watched...

              https://townhall.com/tipsheet/rebeccadowns/2023/02/09/americans-didnt-tune-in-for-state-of-the-union-address-n2619375

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • George KG George K

                @Axtremus about the same not as good as Trump.

                Screenshot 2023-02-09 at 6.31.45 AM.png

                Screenshot 2023-02-09 at 6.32.55 AM.png

                jon-nycJ Offline
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                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #36

                @George-K said in SOTU:

                @Axtremus about the same not as good as Trump.

                Screenshot 2023-02-09 at 6.31.45 AM.png

                Screenshot 2023-02-09 at 6.32.55 AM.png

                Why Trumps first as the comparison against Biden’s third?

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @George-K said in SOTU:

                  @Axtremus about the same not as good as Trump.

                  Screenshot 2023-02-09 at 6.31.45 AM.png

                  Screenshot 2023-02-09 at 6.32.55 AM.png

                  Why Trumps first as the comparison against Biden’s third?

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #37

                  @jon-nyc said in SOTU:

                  Why Trumps first as the comparison against Biden’s third?

                  OK:

                  Screenshot 2023-02-10 at 7.38.52 PM.png

                  Still better than Biden. Net positive 76%.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #38

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                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

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                      jon-nycJ Offline
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #39

                      @George-K said in SOTU:

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                      “Vilifies” Putin?

                      Tells you something about the author of that card.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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