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  • R Renauda
    16 Feb 2023, 22:47

    I think everyone should just calm down about these balloons. There is really nothing new here that NORAD did not already have on its radar or under control.

    A little background that if you take the time and effort to read will put a lot things about this and other past mysteries/alleged conspiracies and extra-terrestrial alien encounters in their proper light and perspective:

    https://open.substack.com/pub/theline/p/scott-van-wynsberghe-the-history?r=17wfy3&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

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    George K
    wrote on 16 Feb 2023, 23:29 last edited by
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    @Renauda said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

    I think everyone should just calm down about these balloons.

    Well these guys are not happy:

    https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/aircraft-propulsion/hobby-clubs-missing-balloon-feared-shot-down-usaf

    A small, globe-trotting balloon declared “missing in action” by an Illinois-based hobbyist club on Feb. 15 has emerged as a candidate to explain one of the three mystery objects shot down by four heat-seeking missiles launched by U.S. Air Force fighters since Feb. 10.

    The club—the Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade (NIBBB)—is not pointing fingers yet.

    But the circumstantial evidence is at least intriguing. The club’s silver-coated, party-style, “pico balloon” reported its last position on Feb. 10 at 38,910 ft. off the west coast of Alaska, and a popular forecasting tool—the HYSPLIT model provided by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)—projected the cylindrically shaped object would be floating high over the central part of the Yukon Territory on Feb. 11. That is the same day a Lockheed Martin F-22 shot down an unidentified object of a similar description and altitude in the same general area.

    There are suspicions among other prominent members of the small, pico-ballooning enthusiasts’ community, which combines ham radio and high-altitude ballooning into a single, relatively affordable hobby.

    “I tried contacting our military and the FBI—and just got the runaround—to try to enlighten them on what a lot of these things probably are. And they’re going to look not too intelligent to be shooting them down,” says Ron Meadows, the founder of Scientific Balloon Solutions (SBS), a Silicon Valley company that makes purpose-built pico balloons for hobbyists, educators and scientists.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • G George K
      16 Feb 2023, 23:29

      @Renauda said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

      I think everyone should just calm down about these balloons.

      Well these guys are not happy:

      https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/aircraft-propulsion/hobby-clubs-missing-balloon-feared-shot-down-usaf

      A small, globe-trotting balloon declared “missing in action” by an Illinois-based hobbyist club on Feb. 15 has emerged as a candidate to explain one of the three mystery objects shot down by four heat-seeking missiles launched by U.S. Air Force fighters since Feb. 10.

      The club—the Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade (NIBBB)—is not pointing fingers yet.

      But the circumstantial evidence is at least intriguing. The club’s silver-coated, party-style, “pico balloon” reported its last position on Feb. 10 at 38,910 ft. off the west coast of Alaska, and a popular forecasting tool—the HYSPLIT model provided by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)—projected the cylindrically shaped object would be floating high over the central part of the Yukon Territory on Feb. 11. That is the same day a Lockheed Martin F-22 shot down an unidentified object of a similar description and altitude in the same general area.

      There are suspicions among other prominent members of the small, pico-ballooning enthusiasts’ community, which combines ham radio and high-altitude ballooning into a single, relatively affordable hobby.

      “I tried contacting our military and the FBI—and just got the runaround—to try to enlighten them on what a lot of these things probably are. And they’re going to look not too intelligent to be shooting them down,” says Ron Meadows, the founder of Scientific Balloon Solutions (SBS), a Silicon Valley company that makes purpose-built pico balloons for hobbyists, educators and scientists.

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      Renauda
      wrote on 16 Feb 2023, 23:47 last edited by
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      @George-K

      If that’s the case, I reckon they have good reason to be perturbed.

      Elbows up!

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        Mik
        wrote on 16 Feb 2023, 23:50 last edited by
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        If you’re flying balloons at commercial flight altitudes they need to be removed.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • M Mik
          16 Feb 2023, 23:50

          If you’re flying balloons at commercial flight altitudes they need to be removed.

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          Renauda
          wrote on 17 Feb 2023, 00:13 last edited by
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          @Mik

          No doubt but would these hobbyists not be subject to applicable regulatory requirements in that regard?

          Elbows up!

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            Mik
            wrote on 17 Feb 2023, 00:38 last edited by
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            No doubt, but 38k feet is definitely in commercial space.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • M Mik
              17 Feb 2023, 00:38

              No doubt, but 38k feet is definitely in commercial space.

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              Renauda
              wrote on 17 Feb 2023, 00:51 last edited by
              #113

              @Mik

              Cut back their helium rations!

              Elbows up!

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                Mik
                wrote on 17 Feb 2023, 00:55 last edited by
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                I bet they mostly just inhale it to sound funny.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • M Mik
                  17 Feb 2023, 00:55

                  I bet they mostly just inhale it to sound funny.

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 17 Feb 2023, 02:20 last edited by
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                  @Mik

                  Makes them sound like little greys.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • M Mik
                    17 Feb 2023, 00:38

                    No doubt, but 38k feet is definitely in commercial space.

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 17 Feb 2023, 02:43 last edited by
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                    @Mik said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

                    No doubt, but 38k feet is definitely in commercial space.

                    Class A

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                    § 91.135 Operations in Class A airspace.

                    Except as provided in paragraph (d) of this section, each person operating an aircraft in Class A airspace must conduct that operation under instrument flight rules (IFR) and in compliance with the following:

                    (a) Clearance. Operations may be conducted only under an ATC clearance received prior to entering the airspace.

                    (b) Communications. Unless otherwise authorized by ATC, each aircraft operating in Class A airspace must be equipped with a two-way radio capable of communicating with ATC on a frequency assigned by ATC. Each pilot must maintain two-way radio communications with ATC while operating in Class A airspace.

                    (c) Equipment requirements. Unless otherwise authorized by ATC, no person may operate an aircraft within Class A airspace unless that aircraft is equipped with the applicable equipment specified in § 91.215, and after January 1, 2020, § 91.225.

                    (d) ATC authorizations. An operator may deviate from any provision of this section under the provisions of an ATC authorization issued by the ATC facility having jurisdiction of the airspace concerned. In the case of an inoperative transponder, ATC may immediately approve an operation within a Class A airspace area allowing flight to continue, if desired, to the airport of ultimate destination, including any intermediate stops, or to proceed to a place where suitable repairs can be made, or both. Requests for deviation from any provision of this section must be submitted in writing, at least 4 days before the proposed operation. ATC may authorize a deviation on a continuing basis or for an individual flight.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 17 Feb 2023, 03:28 last edited by
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                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        George K
                        wrote on 21 Feb 2023, 00:06 last edited by
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                        “These three objects were most likely balloons tied to private companies, of the weather or conducting other scientific research.” Ignoring shouted questions, Biden then turned and went offstage, apparently with a broad grin on his face. After a moment, Biden asks the indelible question, “You think they bought any of that bulls**t?” Someone replies, “Oh, absolutely.” Biden then adds, “Yeah, those guys’ll believe anything. Let’s get outta here.”

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 21 Feb 2023, 00:12 last edited by
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                          🥰♥️ 😍Ax & Jon's Resident! 😍♥️🥰

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • G George K
                            21 Feb 2023, 00:06

                            “These three objects were most likely balloons tied to private companies, of the weather or conducting other scientific research.” Ignoring shouted questions, Biden then turned and went offstage, apparently with a broad grin on his face. After a moment, Biden asks the indelible question, “You think they bought any of that bulls**t?” Someone replies, “Oh, absolutely.” Biden then adds, “Yeah, those guys’ll believe anything. Let’s get outta here.”

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 21 Feb 2023, 00:17 last edited by
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                            @George-K said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

                            “These three objects were most likely balloons tied to private companies, of the weather or conducting other scientific research.” Ignoring shouted questions, Biden then turned and went offstage, apparently with a broad grin on his face. After a moment, Biden asks the indelible question, “You think they bought any of that bulls**t?” Someone replies, “Oh, absolutely.” Biden then adds, “Yeah, those guys’ll believe anything. Let’s get outta here.”

                            Was that real? It sounded fake, and easy to do….

                            The Brad

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                            • J Jolly
                              21 Feb 2023, 00:12

                              🥰♥️ 😍Ax & Jon's Resident! 😍♥️🥰

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 21 Feb 2023, 00:18 last edited by Renauda
                              #121

                              @Jolly

                              Some might say proof that he’s not nearly as senile as you and one or two others here want to believe.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • R Renauda
                                21 Feb 2023, 00:18

                                @Jolly

                                Some might say proof that he’s not nearly as senile as you and one or two others here want to believe.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 21 Feb 2023, 00:20 last edited by
                                #122

                                @Renauda said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

                                @Jolly

                                Proof that he’s not nearly as senile as you and one or two others here want to believe.

                                I think he's on drugs and high oxygen therapy, along with severely limiting his activities. There have been a lot of 11AM lids here lately.

                                I think they're wringing out as much as they can get...

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                                R 1 Reply Last reply 21 Feb 2023, 00:23
                                • J Jolly
                                  21 Feb 2023, 00:20

                                  @Renauda said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

                                  @Jolly

                                  Proof that he’s not nearly as senile as you and one or two others here want to believe.

                                  I think he's on drugs and high oxygen therapy, along with severely limiting his activities. There have been a lot of 11AM lids here lately.

                                  I think they're wringing out as much as they can get...

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 21 Feb 2023, 00:23 last edited by
                                  #123

                                  @Jolly

                                  You’re probably right.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • L LuFins Dad
                                    21 Feb 2023, 00:17

                                    @George-K said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

                                    “These three objects were most likely balloons tied to private companies, of the weather or conducting other scientific research.” Ignoring shouted questions, Biden then turned and went offstage, apparently with a broad grin on his face. After a moment, Biden asks the indelible question, “You think they bought any of that bulls**t?” Someone replies, “Oh, absolutely.” Biden then adds, “Yeah, those guys’ll believe anything. Let’s get outta here.”

                                    Was that real? It sounded fake, and easy to do….

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 21 Feb 2023, 00:23 last edited by
                                    #124

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

                                    Was that real? It sounded fake, and easy to do….

                                    Editor’s Note: PJ Media retracted this article after determining that the video was doctored. We apologize to our readers for the error.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                                    R 1 Reply Last reply 21 Feb 2023, 00:35
                                    • G George K
                                      21 Feb 2023, 00:23

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

                                      Was that real? It sounded fake, and easy to do….

                                      Editor’s Note: PJ Media retracted this article after determining that the video was doctored. We apologize to our readers for the error.

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on 21 Feb 2023, 00:35 last edited by
                                      #125

                                      @George-K

                                      It’s okay George. I had some fun with it.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • R Renauda
                                        21 Feb 2023, 00:18

                                        @Jolly

                                        Some might say proof that he’s not nearly as senile as you and one or two others here want to believe.

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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on 21 Feb 2023, 02:44 last edited by
                                        #126

                                        @Renauda said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

                                        senile

                                        Is senility the same as dementia?

                                        R 1 Reply Last reply 21 Feb 2023, 04:29
                                        • C Copper
                                          21 Feb 2023, 02:44

                                          @Renauda said in Chinese Spy Balloon:

                                          senile

                                          Is senility the same as dementia?

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on 21 Feb 2023, 04:29 last edited by
                                          #127

                                          @Copper

                                          Look it up. While you’re at it look up doty and dotage.

                                          Elbows up!

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