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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #1

    For Immediate Release

    On Monday December 12th, 2022 at approximately 11pm Cherokee County E911 Communications received a 911 call indicating a disturbance with several gun shots fired at 1790 Upper Bear Paw Road. Cherokee County Deputies were immediately dispatched and arrived on the scene at approximately 11:17pm. Deputies attempted to make contact with the alleged shooter but was unsuccessful. Recognizing there was an armed suspect present and the potential for a hostage situation, Cherokee County Sheriff’s Office obtained a search warrant and requested assistance from the Cherokee Indian Police Department SWAT Team. The suspected shooter engaged in a verbal altercation with officers and emerged from a camper trailer and confronted officers. Members of the Cherokee Indian Police SWAT Team fired upon the suspect and wounded him. The suspect was transported to Erlanger in Chattanooga Tennessee where he was last reported in stable condition.

    North Carolina State Bureau of Investigations was called to investigate the matter. After consultation with the District Attorney’s Office, Jason Harley Kloepfer, age 41, of 1790 Upper Bear Paw Road, Murphy, NC has been charged with Communicating Threats and Resist, Obstruct, and Delay. The matter remains under investigation and more charges may follow. Cherokee County Sheriff Dustin Smith wishes to thank the Cherokee Indian Police Department, Cherokee County EMS, and Cherokee County E911 Communications for their assistance with this incident. If anyone has any information about this incident please contact the Cherokee County Sheriff’s Office Investigation’ s Division at 828 837-2589."

    Here's the news report:

    The sheriff’s office says deputies arrived at the scene to investigate a report of shots fired where they found 41-year-old Jason Harley Kloepfer, who initially would not come out of the camper trailer, prompting officers to call in the SWAT Team.

    The sheriff’s office says Kloepfer eventually came outside and confronted officers, forcing them to shoot the suspect.

    Kloepfer was taken to Erlanger where he is in stable condition.

    Kloepfer has been charged with Communicating Threats and Resist, Obstruct, and Delay.

    Here's the video.

    https://rumble.com/v266e3y-firing-squad-at-5-am.html

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • Doctor PhibesD Online
      Doctor PhibesD Online
      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      Holy shit. That's just attempted murder.

      I was only joking

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        Hard to find a way to defend that.

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        • MikM Mik

          Hard to find a way to defend that.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          @Mik said in "Communicating threats and confronting officers":

          Hard to find a way to defend that.

          Yeah, who are you going to believe, the press release and "news" story or your own eyes?

          More coverage from the Daily Mail, including photos of him in the hospital.

          And this is a flat-out lie: "The suspected shooter engaged in a verbal altercation with officers and emerged from a camper trailer and confronted officers"

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • JollyJ Offline
            JollyJ Offline
            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            It's attempted murder.

            But it's on the rez, so it's a different world.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

            AxtremusA 1 Reply Last reply
            • JollyJ Jolly

              It's attempted murder.

              But it's on the rez, so it's a different world.

              AxtremusA Offline
              AxtremusA Offline
              Axtremus
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              Who’s attempting to murder whom?

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                The Daily Mail is a rag and I'm sure Rumble is a murky source. Probably never happened.

                The authorities are always right.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                RenaudaR 1 Reply Last reply
                • JollyJ Jolly

                  The Daily Mail is a rag and I'm sure Rumble is a murky source. Probably never happened.

                  The authorities are always right.

                  RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                  #8

                  @Jolly

                  I suspect you just may be probably right this one time.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Online
                    Doctor PhibesD Online
                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                    #9

                    You have to wonder how much this stuff used to happen before people had security cameras, because without that footage this guy's claims would have just been written off and the official version taken as fact.

                    I was only joking

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      The suspected shooter engaged in a verbal altercation with officers and emerged from a camper trailer and confronted officers

                      More like he complied with their commands to come out and asked what the hell was going on.

                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        We've got a SWAT problem.

                        When you have a tool, you like to use it. We use them waaaay too often.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          Lawyer who specializes in self-defense discusses this.

                          Link to video

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG Offline
                            George KG Offline
                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            Charges Dropped

                            Charges have been dropped against a Cherokee County man who was shot by a SWAT team as he exited his home in December.

                            A surveillance camera inside Jason Kloepfer's trailer shows him being shot several times by members of the Cherokee Indian Police Department SWAT Team. Cherokee County deputies had called them to provide assistance after a 911 call about a disturbance with several gunshots on Dec. 13.

                            Kloepfer survived the shooting and was charged with communicating threats and resisting a public officer.

                            The Clerk of Courts for Cherokee County confirmed those charges have been dropped.

                            The State Bureau of Investigation is looking into the incident.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              Lawsuit time.

                              I suspect he'll be able to afford a two-story trailer before long.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                              George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                              • HoraceH Offline
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                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                Glad he survived. And I agree with Phibes that, without the camera, this would have been a nothing burger, swept under the rug.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  Lawsuit time.

                                  I suspect he'll be able to afford a two-story trailer before long.

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @Jolly said in "Communicating threats and confronting officers":

                                  Lawsuit time.

                                  https://wlos.com/news/local/cherokee-tribal-police-respond-lawsuit-against-them-shooting-unarmed-man-jason-harley-kloepfer-december-2022-swat-team-claim-immunity


                                  he Cherokee Indian Police Department officers accused of shooting an unarmed Murphy man have responded to the lawsuit filed against them by the man.

                                  Cherokee Indian Police respond to lawsuit against them in shooting of unarmed Murphy man

                                  In a new filing, the officers claim immunity and say they saw what looked like a weapon in Jason Kloepfer's hand before they fired on him, striking him several times.

                                  Kloepfer was shot by those officers at his home in Cherokee County in December 2022.

                                  He later released video of the shooting caught on a camera inside his home.


                                  Standing in his doorway with his hands raised and visible to the police. Get yer checkbooks out, boys.

                                  Screenshot 2023-09-03 at 7.48.23 AM.png

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG Offline
                                    George KG Offline
                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by George K
                                    #17

                                    Let the finger-pointing begin.

                                    If taken at face value, answers to a lawsuit filed by an Upper Bear Paw Road couple targeted by a SWAT raid in December 2022 reveal that just three members of the SWAT team actually fired their weapons.

                                    In addition, the three SWAT team members say Cherokee County Sheriff Dustin Smith, whose deputies called for help from the Cherokee Tribal Police SWAT team, was at a briefing before the raid and was at the raid as it took place. The three also say the SWAT team was not under Smith’s command....

                                    The three say if they are in any way found liable, which they deny, it is because co-defendants were negligent, and their negligence was active and primary and the true cause of any damages or injuries...

                                    Filings admit some SWAT team members saw Kloepfer’s actions on the surveillance video, and a SWAT team member described some of the actions taken by Kloepfer over the microphone, but denied that all members heard the description.

                                    They admitted Kloepfer opened the front door of his home and walked outside with his hands up and out in front of him and Mahler was standing behind him. Except for Messer, Ferguson and Harris, all remaining tribal police defendants denied firing any shots at Kloepfer or Mahler.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • JollyJ Offline
                                      JollyJ Offline
                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #18

                                      I have no sympathy for these idiots. One, I'm very dubious of SWAT in any rural environment. It's not needed. Two, this could have easily been handled in the light of day, by regular law enforcement. Three, training and weapons control was severely lacking.

                                      The victim may be white trash, but after surviving this, he deserves to be rich white trash.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • MikM Away
                                        MikM Away
                                        Mik
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #19

                                        Agreed. This sounds like trigger happy yahoos.

                                        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                        • George KG Offline
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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #20

                                          No criminal charges...against the cops.

                                          https://smokymountainnews.com/news/item/37353-officers-in-kloepfer-shooting-won-t-face-charges

                                          A special prosecutor tasked with examining the investigation into the 2022 police shooting that severely injured Jason Harley Kloepfer at his home in Cherokee County has concluded that no criminal charges are warranted against any of the officers or deputies involved.

                                          “We think that the law enforcement involved committed many crimes and lied about our client and tried to set him up for prosecuting him when he committed no crimes,” said Ellis Boyle, an attorney representing Kloepfer in a civil case stemming from the shooting. “It's a crying shame that this is what the justice system is in America.”

                                          However, Kimberly Spahos, executive director of the N.C. Conference of District Attorneys, which appointed Special Prosecutor Lance Sigmon to review the case and determine whether to press charges, said the decision was based in legal reasoning.

                                          “I cannot comment specifically on every statute Mr. Sigmon reviewed,” Spahos said. “However, he certainly reviewed the full investigation and made his decision based on a variety of case law and legal precedent.”

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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