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  • George KG George K

    Wife fatally shoots terminally ill husband at Daytona Beach hospital

    A 76-year-old woman allegedly shot and killed her terminally ill husband at a Daytona Beach, Florida, hospital following a pact police said the couple made several weeks ago.

    Officers were called to AdventHealth Daytona Beach Saturday for a report of a person shot, the police department said in a news release on Twitter.

    When police arrived, Ellen Gilland was barricaded in her husband, Jerry Gilland's, 11th-floor room. Law enforcement used a device to distract the woman "to get her to put that gun down long enough for us to hit her with less lethal," Daytona police chief Jakari Young said at a news conference. She was taken into custody and faces a charge of first-degree murder.

    The woman told authorities that because of her husband's health issues, they had a conversation about three weeks ago and decided that if he "continued to take a turn for the worse that he wanted her to end this," Young said.

    "Initially, I think the plan was a murder-suicide so she killed him and then she was going to turn the gun on herself but decided she couldn’t go through with it," he told reporters.

    Young said the husband knew the shooting would occur today. It's not clear how long he had been hospitalized.

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    Renauda
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    @George-K

    Kinda messy don’t ya think?

    Elbows up!

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    • RenaudaR Renauda

      @George-K

      Kinda messy don’t ya think?

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      @Renauda said in Euthanasia by wife:

      @George-K

      Kinda messy don’t ya think?

      Well, yeah.

      But, it raises an interesting question: What's the difference between the wife performing this (admittedly messy) voluntary killing and someone else doing it by lethal injection?

      We're not even arguing about price, rather about the executioner. for want of a better term, and the method.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        @Renauda said in Euthanasia by wife:

        @George-K

        Kinda messy don’t ya think?

        Well, yeah.

        But, it raises an interesting question: What's the difference between the wife performing this (admittedly messy) voluntary killing and someone else doing it by lethal injection?

        We're not even arguing about price, rather about the executioner. for want of a better term, and the method.

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        @George-K

        Don’t know, but if they both agreed that that was what had to be done and she has documentation to prove it, then she’ll have to plead her case accordingly. Hopefully she has no prior convictions.

        Elbows up!

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          I can't begin to imagine how wrenchingly difficult that must have been for her to do. And the courage it took.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • Catseye3C Catseye3

            I can't begin to imagine how wrenchingly difficult that must have been for her to do. And the courage it took.

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            @Catseye3 said in Euthanasia by wife:

            I can't begin to imagine how wrenchingly difficult that must have been for her to do. And the courage it took.

            Nor can I.

            If you look at the story, supposedly it was supposed to be a "euthanasia murder/suicide" and she couldn't bring herself to kill herself.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Be hard to convict Murder 1.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Be hard to convict Murder 1.

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                George K
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                @Jolly

                (Devil's advocate mode)

                Did she plan the killing? Yes.
                Does the victim's wish have anything to do with the law? Probably not.

                That qualifies as Murder 1, right?

                Now, do medical euthanasia.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

                  @Jolly

                  (Devil's advocate mode)

                  Did she plan the killing? Yes.
                  Does the victim's wish have anything to do with the law? Probably not.

                  That qualifies as Murder 1, right?

                  Now, do medical euthanasia.

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                  @George-K said in Euthanasia by wife:

                  @Jolly

                  (Devil's advocate mode)

                  Did she plan the killing? Yes.
                  Does the victim's wish have anything to do with the law? Probably not.

                  That qualifies as Murder 1, right?

                  Now, do medical euthanasia.

                  Jury.

                  You're gonna send grandma to the chair for putting her dying husband out of his misery?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • George KG George K

                    @Jolly

                    (Devil's advocate mode)

                    Did she plan the killing? Yes.
                    Does the victim's wish have anything to do with the law? Probably not.

                    That qualifies as Murder 1, right?

                    Now, do medical euthanasia.

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                    @George-K said in Euthanasia by wife:

                    @Jolly

                    (Devil's advocate mode)

                    Did she plan the killing? Yes.
                    Does the victim's wish have anything to do with the law? Probably not.

                    That qualifies as Murder 1, right?

                    Now, do medical euthanasia.

                    Maybe Dickens had it right about the law?

                    I was only joking

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                      I’ll bite - yes the method is worth arguing about.

                      Couldn’t she have found a way that didn’t implicate herself in a murder?

                      You were warned.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        I’ll bite - yes the method is worth arguing about.

                        Couldn’t she have found a way that didn’t implicate herself in a murder?

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                        @jon-nyc said in Euthanasia by wife:

                        I’ll bite - yes the method is worth arguing about.

                        Messy, as @Renauda points out. What about a rapid-acting poison? How about an OD of fentanyl?

                        Couldn’t she have found a way that didn’t implicate herself in a murder?

                        If it was a planned murder/suicide, as the story suggests, that probably wasn't on her mind.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          @jon-nyc said in Euthanasia by wife:

                          I’ll bite - yes the method is worth arguing about.

                          Messy, as @Renauda points out. What about a rapid-acting poison? How about an OD of fentanyl?

                          Couldn’t she have found a way that didn’t implicate herself in a murder?

                          If it was a planned murder/suicide, as the story suggests, that probably wasn't on her mind.

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                          @George-K said in Euthanasia by wife:

                          If it was a planned murder/suicide, as the story suggests, that probably wasn't on her mind.

                          Yep.

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            If she is a democrat she can probably arrange to have the entire affair disappear.

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                              Bodycam video (not graphic)

                              https://breaking911.com/new-bodycam-video-shows-police-pleading-with-wife-accused-of-killing-terminally-ill-husband-in-daytona-beach-hospital/

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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