Alec Baldwin Charged
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@Jolly said in Alec Baldwin Charged:
It's not an uncommon camera angle.
This all boils down to live rounds on the set. Should have never happened.
QFT. What kind of idiot armorer allows, possibly even initiates, that.
wrote on 22 Jan 2023, 14:43 last edited by@Mik said in Alec Baldwin Charged:
This all boils down to live rounds on the set. Should have never happened.
QFT. What kind of idiot armorer allows, possibly even initiates, that.
There were all kinds of inappropriate things going on on the set wrt firearms. Target practice, and general tomfoolery.
A possible explanation:
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wrote on 24 Jan 2023, 12:17 last edited by
Rumor is that the trial will be televised.
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wrote on 24 Jan 2023, 12:18 last edited by
Ugh
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wrote on 28 Jan 2023, 11:59 last edited by jon-nyc
Ken White (aka Popehat) discussed this case and thinks there’s a decent chance Baldwin will have to accept some jail time in his plea or risk 18 months if a jury trial goes wrong.
He said it easily meets the state statute’s definition (“without due caution”) and furthermore Baldwin had painted himself into a corner with his public comments.
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Ken White (aka Popehat) discussed this case and thinks there’s a decent chance Baldwin will have to accept some jail time in his plea or risk 18 months if a jury trial goes wrong.
He said it easily meets the state statute’s definition (“without due caution”) and furthermore Baldwin had painted himself into a corner with his public comments.
wrote on 28 Jan 2023, 12:16 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Alec Baldwin Charged:
Baldwin had painted himself into a corner with his public comments.
There was a NYT article saying the same thing, but I can't find it at the moment.
Here's Breitbart's take on it: https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/01/20/nolte-alec-baldwin-made-one-huge-mistake-he-talked/
Outside of not inspecting the gun himself, however, the dumbest thing Baldwin did was talk.
Right away, Baldwin made the biggest mistake you can make in a criminal investigation: he talked to the police.
You never-ever-ever-ever talk to the police without your attorney present. “I’m sorry, Detective, but I’m not going to talk to you without my attorney.” That’s what you say—every time. Someone breaks into your house, and you shoot him; that’s what you say. You stop a mass shooter at your local Walmart with a gun of your own; that’s what you say. No matter how innocent you might believe you are, no matter how righteous you believe you acted, you never talk to the police without your attorney.
His talking should have consisted of one word: "Lawyer."
And he can afford the best.
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wrote on 28 Jan 2023, 13:19 last edited by
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wrote on 28 Jan 2023, 14:29 last edited by
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Involuntary manslaughter. Also the armorer.
I'm not sure I can see how he can be charged .
wrote on 2 Feb 2023, 00:51 last edited by@Mik said in Alec Baldwin Charged:
I'm not sure I can see how he can be charged .
Formally charged yesterday.
One lawyer thinks he's going to jail. During a police interview, with no attorney present, he said that Hannah (the armorer) handed him the pistol.
"She would show me the gun, or, she would say 'Cold gun...do you want to check?'"
And he declined to check it. According to this lawyer this is an admission that he knew that the weapon was, or could be, dangerous, and he disregarded that risk by not checking it.
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@Mik said in Alec Baldwin Charged:
I'm not sure I can see how he can be charged .
Formally charged yesterday.
One lawyer thinks he's going to jail. During a police interview, with no attorney present, he said that Hannah (the armorer) handed him the pistol.
"She would show me the gun, or, she would say 'Cold gun...do you want to check?'"
And he declined to check it. According to this lawyer this is an admission that he knew that the weapon was, or could be, dangerous, and he disregarded that risk by not checking it.
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wrote on 2 Feb 2023, 02:35 last edited by
I still find it bizarre how it's perfectly ok for everybody and their brother to discuss cases like this before they even start. Back in blighty these folks would be done for contempt of court or for potentially prejudicing a jury.
Trial by media isn't a good thing.
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wrote on 2 Feb 2023, 16:28 last edited by
You're right, but it's America...
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wrote on 2 Feb 2023, 22:48 last edited by
I still think that a big part of his culpability comes from the fact that he was a producer, not just an actor. There’s a responsibility on the producer to ensure all of the appropriate safety measures are occurring as they should. If he was aware of the guns on set actually being used for target shooting and such, and then used the gun without checking then yes, he bears some responsibility.
The armorer? She’s fvcked. It’s a shame. Her dad is supposed to be one of the best armorer in Hollywood. But it’s not as much of a shame as it is for the woman who died and her family.
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topic:timeago-later,9 days
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wrote on 11 Feb 2023, 12:50 last edited by
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wrote on 15 Feb 2023, 18:25 last edited by
Baldwin will resume production of Rust:
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-64646939
I guess the movie will do pretty well, with all this publicity.
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Baldwin will resume production of Rust:
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-64646939
I guess the movie will do pretty well, with all this publicity.
wrote on 15 Feb 2023, 20:38 last edited by@Horace said in Alec Baldwin Charged:
Baldwin will resume production of Rust:
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-64646939Well. You go, Mr. Sensitive.
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wrote on 16 Feb 2023, 01:18 last edited by George K
Baker is fun...
Link to video"I don't see how Hutchins was killed by a gun that was supposed to be a prop without negligence."
Yeah....
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wrote on 16 Feb 2023, 01:32 last edited by
tl;dw
Baldwin should have said exactly one thing: "Lawyer."
Everything else he said can, AND WILL, be held against him.
Baker's analysis is damning.
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topic:timeago-later,8 months
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wrote on 17 Oct 2023, 18:07 last edited by
New Mexico prosecutors intend to recharge actor Alec Baldwin with involuntary manslaughter in connection with the fatal 2021 “Rust” shooting, two sources familiar with the matter tells NBC News.
The source adds that Baldwin’s case will be brought before a grand jury in mid-November. There had been recent discussions of a plea deal, according to two sources familiar with the matter.
NBC News has reached out to the special prosecutors assigned to the case as well as Baldwin’s attorneys for comment.
This charge could carry up to 18 months in prison if convicted.
This latest news comes 5 months after special prosecutors Kari Morrissey and Jason Lewis dismissed this same charge against Baldwin citing “new facts” in the case. At the time they released a statement reserving the right to re-charge Baldwin stating, “This decision does not absolve Mr. Baldwin of criminal culpability and charges may be refiled.”
The case centers on an incident on the “Rust” film set in October 2021, in which Baldwin’s prop gun fired a live round of ammunition, killing the film’s cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and injuring director Joel Souza.
Baldwin has maintained in interviews with both ABC News and CNN that he did not pull the trigger.
“I feel that someone is responsible for what happened, and I can’t say who that is, but I know it’s not me,” Baldwin said in an interview with ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos in December 2021.
When the involuntary manslaughter charges were dropped earlier this year, prosecutors said the gun might have been modified before the shooting and malfunctioned. A gun analysis report commissioned by the special prosecutors released in August found that the gun had not been modified.
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wrote on 17 Oct 2023, 18:42 last edited by
I'm pretty sure he pulled the trigger. But I still don't see how he can reasonably be held accountable for the very clear failure of others on the set who were charged with preparing the props.
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