Succinct case for lab leak origin

[Horace]

A charitable reading of that sentence is that someone did something, such as, walking into proximity with an infected animal.

[jon-nyc]

Well often that’s not the novel thing. The novel thing is a mutation allows a virus that’s been around for years to jump the species barrier.

I guess one could interpret, for example, “farming chickens” as the thing someone did to get some avian flu.

[jon-nyc]

I don’t mean to diss the piece, I didn’t even read it. I just was commenting on Dohs post.

[Horace]

It was a poorly written first sentence, but it strains credulity to think the author is unaware that viruses occur naturally. I'm trying to imagine what he meant, and I imagine that he meant to include "someone doing something" that would still align with a natural origin theory.

[George K]

[Jolly]

I don't think it was intentional.

[George K]

@Jolly said in Succinct case for lab leak origin:

I don't think it was intentional.

Nor do I.

But, "Trust but verify."

[taiwan_girl]

I dont think it was, and I also think that we will never know the true answer.

And I have asked this question before - if we knew way back at the beginning that it was a lab virus that escaped, would anything have been different in the way the virus went around the world and the response to it?

[Copper]

@taiwan_girl said in Succinct case for lab leak origin:

would anything have been different

We would have the identity of the person Fauci responsible for 7,010,681 deaths.

And that person would pay for every one of them.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Copper said in Succinct case for lab leak origin:

@taiwan_girl said in Succinct case for lab leak origin:

would anything have been different

We would have the identity of the person Fauci responsible for 7,010,681 deaths.

And that person would pay for every one of them.

You've certainly changed your tune. I seem to recall in 2020 it was just a bit of flu.

[Copper]

I was just playing the tg hypothetical

[LuFins Dad]

@Copper beat me to it…

And yes, if it had come out in early 2020 that it was a lab leak and quite possibly the same virus that Fauci was funding, there likely would have been huge changes at the very top, and quite possibly, some of Fauci’s biggest critics would have stepped to the front. If Jay Bhattacharya and company had come to the front then, we likely would have had a different approach to schools and such by the fall of 2020.

We also wouldn’t have had 2 years of media and social media censoring any talk about lab leaks for 2 years…

[Jolly]

I suspect the Chinese would be on the hook for some serious reparations.

[jon-nyc]

Though wet market, lab leak, either way it’s a product of their country and culture.

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in Succinct case for lab leak origin:

Though wet market, lab leak, either way it’s a product of their country and culture.

I think most reasonable people would not find fault with a virus naturally mutating and spreading. They might feel differently if the virus didn’t mutate naturally, had two manufacturing marks on it, and leaked from a lab that’s had numerous other close calls, but was financially supported by the US under two administrations, including the MAGA guy…

Did Trump remember to charge tariffs on the virus? I don’t recall.

[Jolly]

@LuFins-Dad said in Succinct case for lab leak origin:

@jon-nyc said in Succinct case for lab leak origin:

Though wet market, lab leak, either way it’s a product of their country and culture.

I think most reasonable people would not find fault with a virus naturally mutating and spreading. They might feel differently if the virus didn’t mutate naturally, had two manufacturing marks on it, and leaked from a lab that’s had numerous other close calls, but was financially supported by the US under two administrations, including the MAGA guy…

Did Trump remember to charge tariffs on the virus? I don’t recall.

To be fair, how much do you think Trump or Obama knew about the funding for the Wuhan lab?

[LuFins Dad]

Where does that buck stop, again?

[LuFins Dad]

It’s okay to say that the guy did some good, a bunch bad, and was still better than the alternative.

[Doctor Phibes]

Interestingly enough, I work with two people who traveled to a committee meeting fairly near Wuhan in or around October 2019. They were both as sick as hell when they got back.

Yes, 2019.

[Jolly]

@LuFins-Dad said in Succinct case for lab leak origin:

Where does that buck stop, again?

On the President's desk.

But if you think the President, any President is aware of everything, especially when trusted government officials are not telling him something or are feeding him misinformation, I've got this oceanfront property in Arizona for sale.