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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @Doctor-Phibes said in The poetry thread:

    I don't really get much poetry,

    That's not on you, that's on poetry. When most written poetry is navel-gazy shit that gets published in obscure university presses to help some wanker keep his lecturing job, that's what you have. You have people saying they don't "get" poetry.

    Occasional dense and opaque stuff is fine, but the whole damn art form isn't supposed to be locked up in some word-game ivory tower.

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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
    #36

    @Aqua-Letifer said in The poetry thread:

    @Doctor-Phibes said in The poetry thread:

    I don't really get much poetry,

    That's not on you, that's on poetry. When most written poetry is navel-gazy shit that gets published in obscure university presses to help some wanker keep his lecturing job, that's what you have. You have people saying they don't "get" poetry.

    Occasional dense and opaque stuff is fine, but the whole damn art form isn't supposed to be locked up in some word-game ivory tower.

    I don't quite know why I love Dylan Thomas so much. I lived in a village in South Wales for a while (the birthplace of Tom Jones, as it happens), and you could almost hear him (Thomas, that is) as you walked down the street. It was also a great place to go drinking, of course.

    I was only joking

    Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply
    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      @Aqua-Letifer said in The poetry thread:

      @Doctor-Phibes said in The poetry thread:

      I don't really get much poetry,

      That's not on you, that's on poetry. When most written poetry is navel-gazy shit that gets published in obscure university presses to help some wanker keep his lecturing job, that's what you have. You have people saying they don't "get" poetry.

      Occasional dense and opaque stuff is fine, but the whole damn art form isn't supposed to be locked up in some word-game ivory tower.

      I don't quite know why I love Dylan Thomas so much. I lived in a village in South Wales for a while (the birthplace of Tom Jones, as it happens), and you could almost hear him (Thomas, that is) as you walked down the street. It was also a great place to go drinking, of course.

      Aqua LetiferA Offline
      Aqua LetiferA Offline
      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
      #37

      @Doctor-Phibes said in The poetry thread:

      @Aqua-Letifer said in The poetry thread:

      @Doctor-Phibes said in The poetry thread:

      I don't really get much poetry,

      That's not on you, that's on poetry. When most written poetry is navel-gazy shit that gets published in obscure university presses to help some wanker keep his lecturing job, that's what you have. You have people saying they don't "get" poetry.

      Occasional dense and opaque stuff is fine, but the whole damn art form isn't supposed to be locked up in some word-game ivory tower.

      I don't quite know why I love Dylan Thomas so much. I lived in a village in South Wales for a while (the birthplace of Tom Jones, as it happens), and you could almost hear him (Thomas, that is) as you walked down the street. It was also a great place to go drinking, of course.

      I like him because okay, say what you want about everything else, but when it came to his writing, he really brought it. Most people don't.

      In Oz, my landlady had a vinyl copy of Under Milk Wood, which was pretty fucking rad, with or without substances.

      Please love yourself.

      Doctor PhibesD 1 Reply Last reply
      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        @Doctor-Phibes said in The poetry thread:

        @Aqua-Letifer said in The poetry thread:

        @Doctor-Phibes said in The poetry thread:

        I don't really get much poetry,

        That's not on you, that's on poetry. When most written poetry is navel-gazy shit that gets published in obscure university presses to help some wanker keep his lecturing job, that's what you have. You have people saying they don't "get" poetry.

        Occasional dense and opaque stuff is fine, but the whole damn art form isn't supposed to be locked up in some word-game ivory tower.

        I don't quite know why I love Dylan Thomas so much. I lived in a village in South Wales for a while (the birthplace of Tom Jones, as it happens), and you could almost hear him (Thomas, that is) as you walked down the street. It was also a great place to go drinking, of course.

        I like him because okay, say what you want about everything else, but when it came to his writing, he really brought it. Most people don't.

        In Oz, my landlady had a vinyl copy of Under Milk Wood, which was pretty fucking rad, with or without substances.

        Doctor PhibesD Offline
        Doctor PhibesD Offline
        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on last edited by
        #38

        @Aqua-Letifer said in The poetry thread:

        In Oz, my landlady had a vinyl copy of Under Milk Wood

        That was on the other side of the Child's Christmas in Wales I listened to as a kid.

        I was only joking

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @Doctor-Phibes said in The poetry thread:

          I don't really get much poetry,

          That's not on you, that's on poetry. When most written poetry is navel-gazy shit that gets published in obscure university presses to help some wanker keep his lecturing job, that's what you have. You have people saying they don't "get" poetry.

          Occasional dense and opaque stuff is fine, but the whole damn art form isn't supposed to be locked up in some word-game ivory tower.

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          MikM Offline
          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #39

          @Aqua-Letifer said in The poetry thread:

          @Doctor-Phibes said in The poetry thread:

          I don't really get much poetry,

          That's not on you, that's on poetry. When most written poetry is navel-gazy shit that gets published in obscure university presses to help some wanker keep his lecturing job, that's what you have. You have people saying they don't "get" poetry.

          Occasional dense and opaque stuff is fine, but the whole damn art form isn't supposed to be locked up in some word-game ivory tower.

          No, it certainly isn’t. Endeavoring to obscure your message is just pretension. Clarity doesn’t necessarily mean being obvious, but if you don’t get what you’re talking about across, it’s like a lot of abstract art. “What does it mean TO YOU?”

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
            #40

            The Old Man

            In the hours between night and morning
            As my family dreams deep in their bed
            I’m alone in the second-floor bedroom
            I’m exhausted and shaking my head.

            When I scoff at the notebook beside me—
            Every night, it's been always the same—
            There's hand that takes hold of my shoulder
            From the Man with a Song for a Name.

            “So you're thinking of going?” he asks me
            As he glances from me to the door
            “I’m thinking of sleep,” I say, sneering
            “I can’t deal with your shit anymore.”

            When he laughs, the sound ripples and thunders
            “My shit?” He repeats with a smile.
            “My ‘shit,’ I recall, that I dropped by the Hall
            Is still there; want to lick it awhile?”

            “Just as well if I would, and you know it,
            For the good it would do!” I exclaimed
            “I spend night after night chasing nothing!
            And for what? To feel lost and ashamed?

            “For a decade, I follow this calling
            I put blood in my truth and I give
            And I know that I’ll never be famous
            But at least some would know that I lived

            “Know when ‘hope’ is a splash in the toilet?
            When your ‘calling’ is worse than a lie
            Have you heard about TikTok or YouTube?
            Fucking poetry’s dead as your eye!

            “The world has moved on—words are worthless
            I spill as much of myself as I can
            And you know what they do when I share it?
            They ignore it, you silly old man!

            “I don't have some glorious struggle
            Or a face that commands their respect
            I just live in a house with my family
            And the bullshit my notebooks collect

            “I’m no internet-famous sensation
            I’m not the next Kaur or Bly
            I make marks on the world with stale water
            And my writing will fade when I die.”

            The other just raises his eyebrows.
            “I take it you’e finally through?
            With that whiny white noise that your ego enjoys?
            Can’t you ever express something new?

            “You sound like my wife when she’s angry—
            Discounting your nonsense, of course.
            Late at night when she knits and she bitches like this
            It’s amazing you haven’t gone hoarse.

            “My birds used to visit, remember?
            They were hoping you’d prosper and grow
            But Wisdom’s offended that Memory tended
            To you, but you’ve lost what you know.
            So why don’t they join us awhile
            To pay you what you think that I owe.”

            As two ravens fly in from the window
            The man stops to consider his words
            When his lips move, he’s still and he’s silent
            But a voice whispers out from the birds:

            Beneath the pines
            Below the leaves
            Where bones are shrines
            To death achieved
            That’s where you’ll go
            And where you’ll be
            Again you know
            And now you see
            Your spirit shows
            You’re more than dust
            You’ve room to grow
            You can adjust
            Death comes again
            As twice it must
            Returning when
            You’re last discussed
            For throngs of men
            The gap is small
            They’re buried, then
            They’re never called
            For you, the word
            Is fate forestalled
            It’s heaven heard
            Beyond its walls
            Your soul is stirred
            And shines anew
            And grace returned
            Will visit you
            But grace will fade
            Its moments few
            The vows death made
            Are followed through
            Once all is played
            You’ll join the dark
            But what you’ve laid
            May rouse a spark
            And show the world
            That you persisted
            Your hope was hurled
            You once existed
            The future swirls
            It’s never known
            So share those pearls
            You call your own

            The ravens fly out past the window
            The man, with a wink, disappears
            And when all once forgotten emerges
            My heart reconciles and clears

            In the hours between night and morning
            Once I’d heard the advice of a friend
            I abandon my fears to tomorrow
            And I pick up my notebook again

            Please love yourself.

            HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              The Old Man

              In the hours between night and morning
              As my family dreams deep in their bed
              I’m alone in the second-floor bedroom
              I’m exhausted and shaking my head.

              When I scoff at the notebook beside me—
              Every night, it's been always the same—
              There's hand that takes hold of my shoulder
              From the Man with a Song for a Name.

              “So you're thinking of going?” he asks me
              As he glances from me to the door
              “I’m thinking of sleep,” I say, sneering
              “I can’t deal with your shit anymore.”

              When he laughs, the sound ripples and thunders
              “My shit?” He repeats with a smile.
              “My ‘shit,’ I recall, that I dropped by the Hall
              Is still there; want to lick it awhile?”

              “Just as well if I would, and you know it,
              For the good it would do!” I exclaimed
              “I spend night after night chasing nothing!
              And for what? To feel lost and ashamed?

              “For a decade, I follow this calling
              I put blood in my truth and I give
              And I know that I’ll never be famous
              But at least some would know that I lived

              “Know when ‘hope’ is a splash in the toilet?
              When your ‘calling’ is worse than a lie
              Have you heard about TikTok or YouTube?
              Fucking poetry’s dead as your eye!

              “The world has moved on—words are worthless
              I spill as much of myself as I can
              And you know what they do when I share it?
              They ignore it, you silly old man!

              “I don't have some glorious struggle
              Or a face that commands their respect
              I just live in a house with my family
              And the bullshit my notebooks collect

              “I’m no internet-famous sensation
              I’m not the next Kaur or Bly
              I make marks on the world with stale water
              And my writing will fade when I die.”

              The other just raises his eyebrows.
              “I take it you’e finally through?
              With that whiny white noise that your ego enjoys?
              Can’t you ever express something new?

              “You sound like my wife when she’s angry—
              Discounting your nonsense, of course.
              Late at night when she knits and she bitches like this
              It’s amazing you haven’t gone hoarse.

              “My birds used to visit, remember?
              They were hoping you’d prosper and grow
              But Wisdom’s offended that Memory tended
              To you, but you’ve lost what you know.
              So why don’t they join us awhile
              To pay you what you think that I owe.”

              As two ravens fly in from the window
              The man stops to consider his words
              When his lips move, he’s still and he’s silent
              But a voice whispers out from the birds:

              Beneath the pines
              Below the leaves
              Where bones are shrines
              To death achieved
              That’s where you’ll go
              And where you’ll be
              Again you know
              And now you see
              Your spirit shows
              You’re more than dust
              You’ve room to grow
              You can adjust
              Death comes again
              As twice it must
              Returning when
              You’re last discussed
              For throngs of men
              The gap is small
              They’re buried, then
              They’re never called
              For you, the word
              Is fate forestalled
              It’s heaven heard
              Beyond its walls
              Your soul is stirred
              And shines anew
              And grace returned
              Will visit you
              But grace will fade
              Its moments few
              The vows death made
              Are followed through
              Once all is played
              You’ll join the dark
              But what you’ve laid
              May rouse a spark
              And show the world
              That you persisted
              Your hope was hurled
              You once existed
              The future swirls
              It’s never known
              So share those pearls
              You call your own

              The ravens fly out past the window
              The man, with a wink, disappears
              And when all once forgotten emerges
              My heart reconciles and clears

              In the hours between night and morning
              Once I’d heard the advice of a friend
              I abandon my fears to tomorrow
              And I pick up my notebook again

              HoraceH Offline
              HoraceH Offline
              Horace
              wrote on last edited by
              #41

              @Aqua-Letifer said in The poetry thread:

              The Old Man

              In the hours between night and morning
              As my family dreams deep in their bed
              I’m alone in the second-floor bedroom
              I’m exhausted and shaking my head.

              When I scoff at the notebook beside me—
              Every night, it's been always the same—
              There's hand that takes hold of my shoulder
              From the Man with a Song for a Name.

              “So you're thinking of going?” he asks me
              As he glances from me to the door
              “I’m thinking of sleep,” I say, sneering
              “I can’t deal with your shit anymore.”

              When he laughs, the sound ripples and thunders
              “My shit?” He repeats with a smile.
              “My ‘shit,’ I recall, that I dropped by the Hall
              Is still there; want to lick it awhile?”

              “Just as well if I would, and you know it,
              For the good it would do!” I exclaimed
              “I spend night after night chasing nothing!
              And for what? To feel lost and ashamed?

              “For a decade, I follow this calling
              I put blood in my truth and I give
              And I know that I’ll never be famous
              But at least some would know that I lived

              “Know when ‘hope’ is a splash in the toilet?
              When your ‘calling’ is worse than a lie
              Have you heard about TikTok or YouTube?
              Fucking poetry’s dead as your eye!

              “The world has moved on—words are worthless
              I spill as much of myself as I can
              And you know what they do when I share it?
              They ignore it, you silly old man!

              “I don't have some glorious struggle
              Or a face that commands their respect
              I just live in a house with my family
              And the bullshit my notebooks collect

              “I’m no internet-famous sensation
              I’m not the next Kaur or Bly
              I make marks on the world with stale water
              And my writing will fade when I die.”

              The other just raises his eyebrows.
              “I take it you’e finally through?
              With that whiny white noise that your ego enjoys?
              Can’t you ever express something new?

              “You sound like my wife when she’s angry—
              Discounting your nonsense, of course.
              Late at night when she knits and she bitches like this
              It’s amazing you haven’t gone hoarse.

              “My birds used to visit, remember?
              They were hoping you’d prosper and grow
              But Wisdom’s offended that Memory tended
              To you, but you’ve lost what you know.
              So why don’t they join us awhile
              To pay you what you think that I owe.”

              As two ravens fly in from the window
              The man stops to consider his words
              When his lips move, he’s still and he’s silent
              But a voice whispers out from the birds:

              Beneath the pines
              Below the leaves
              Where bones are shrines
              To death achieved
              That’s where you’ll go
              And where you’ll be
              Again you know
              And now you see
              Your spirit shows
              You’re more than dust
              You’ve room to grow
              You can adjust
              Death comes again
              As twice it must
              Returning when
              You’re last discussed
              For throngs of men
              The gap is small
              They’re buried, then
              They’re never called
              For you, the word
              Is fate forestalled
              It’s heaven heard
              Beyond its walls
              Your soul is stirred
              And shines anew
              And grace returned
              Will visit you
              But grace will fade
              Its moments few
              The vows death made
              Are followed through
              Once all is played
              You’ll join the dark
              But what you’ve laid
              May rouse a spark
              And show the world
              That you persisted
              Your hope was hurled
              You once existed
              The future swirls
              It’s never known
              So share those pearls
              You call your own

              The ravens fly out past the window
              The man, with a wink, disappears
              And when all once forgotten emerges
              My heart reconciles and clears

              In the hours between night and morning
              Once I’d heard the advice of a friend
              I abandon my fears to tomorrow
              And I pick up my notebook again

              Excellent encapsulation of why I pwn the libtards here on TNCR. Though my face does command respect.

              Education is extremely important.

              Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply
              • HoraceH Horace

                @Aqua-Letifer said in The poetry thread:

                The Old Man

                In the hours between night and morning
                As my family dreams deep in their bed
                I’m alone in the second-floor bedroom
                I’m exhausted and shaking my head.

                When I scoff at the notebook beside me—
                Every night, it's been always the same—
                There's hand that takes hold of my shoulder
                From the Man with a Song for a Name.

                “So you're thinking of going?” he asks me
                As he glances from me to the door
                “I’m thinking of sleep,” I say, sneering
                “I can’t deal with your shit anymore.”

                When he laughs, the sound ripples and thunders
                “My shit?” He repeats with a smile.
                “My ‘shit,’ I recall, that I dropped by the Hall
                Is still there; want to lick it awhile?”

                “Just as well if I would, and you know it,
                For the good it would do!” I exclaimed
                “I spend night after night chasing nothing!
                And for what? To feel lost and ashamed?

                “For a decade, I follow this calling
                I put blood in my truth and I give
                And I know that I’ll never be famous
                But at least some would know that I lived

                “Know when ‘hope’ is a splash in the toilet?
                When your ‘calling’ is worse than a lie
                Have you heard about TikTok or YouTube?
                Fucking poetry’s dead as your eye!

                “The world has moved on—words are worthless
                I spill as much of myself as I can
                And you know what they do when I share it?
                They ignore it, you silly old man!

                “I don't have some glorious struggle
                Or a face that commands their respect
                I just live in a house with my family
                And the bullshit my notebooks collect

                “I’m no internet-famous sensation
                I’m not the next Kaur or Bly
                I make marks on the world with stale water
                And my writing will fade when I die.”

                The other just raises his eyebrows.
                “I take it you’e finally through?
                With that whiny white noise that your ego enjoys?
                Can’t you ever express something new?

                “You sound like my wife when she’s angry—
                Discounting your nonsense, of course.
                Late at night when she knits and she bitches like this
                It’s amazing you haven’t gone hoarse.

                “My birds used to visit, remember?
                They were hoping you’d prosper and grow
                But Wisdom’s offended that Memory tended
                To you, but you’ve lost what you know.
                So why don’t they join us awhile
                To pay you what you think that I owe.”

                As two ravens fly in from the window
                The man stops to consider his words
                When his lips move, he’s still and he’s silent
                But a voice whispers out from the birds:

                Beneath the pines
                Below the leaves
                Where bones are shrines
                To death achieved
                That’s where you’ll go
                And where you’ll be
                Again you know
                And now you see
                Your spirit shows
                You’re more than dust
                You’ve room to grow
                You can adjust
                Death comes again
                As twice it must
                Returning when
                You’re last discussed
                For throngs of men
                The gap is small
                They’re buried, then
                They’re never called
                For you, the word
                Is fate forestalled
                It’s heaven heard
                Beyond its walls
                Your soul is stirred
                And shines anew
                And grace returned
                Will visit you
                But grace will fade
                Its moments few
                The vows death made
                Are followed through
                Once all is played
                You’ll join the dark
                But what you’ve laid
                May rouse a spark
                And show the world
                That you persisted
                Your hope was hurled
                You once existed
                The future swirls
                It’s never known
                So share those pearls
                You call your own

                The ravens fly out past the window
                The man, with a wink, disappears
                And when all once forgotten emerges
                My heart reconciles and clears

                In the hours between night and morning
                Once I’d heard the advice of a friend
                I abandon my fears to tomorrow
                And I pick up my notebook again

                Excellent encapsulation of why I pwn the libtards here on TNCR. Though my face does command respect.

                Aqua LetiferA Offline
                Aqua LetiferA Offline
                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on last edited by
                #42

                @Horace said in The poetry thread:

                @Aqua-Letifer said in The poetry thread:

                The Old Man

                In the hours between night and morning
                As my family dreams deep in their bed
                I’m alone in the second-floor bedroom
                I’m exhausted and shaking my head.

                When I scoff at the notebook beside me—
                Every night, it's been always the same—
                There's hand that takes hold of my shoulder
                From the Man with a Song for a Name.

                “So you're thinking of going?” he asks me
                As he glances from me to the door
                “I’m thinking of sleep,” I say, sneering
                “I can’t deal with your shit anymore.”

                When he laughs, the sound ripples and thunders
                “My shit?” He repeats with a smile.
                “My ‘shit,’ I recall, that I dropped by the Hall
                Is still there; want to lick it awhile?”

                “Just as well if I would, and you know it,
                For the good it would do!” I exclaimed
                “I spend night after night chasing nothing!
                And for what? To feel lost and ashamed?

                “For a decade, I follow this calling
                I put blood in my truth and I give
                And I know that I’ll never be famous
                But at least some would know that I lived

                “Know when ‘hope’ is a splash in the toilet?
                When your ‘calling’ is worse than a lie
                Have you heard about TikTok or YouTube?
                Fucking poetry’s dead as your eye!

                “The world has moved on—words are worthless
                I spill as much of myself as I can
                And you know what they do when I share it?
                They ignore it, you silly old man!

                “I don't have some glorious struggle
                Or a face that commands their respect
                I just live in a house with my family
                And the bullshit my notebooks collect

                “I’m no internet-famous sensation
                I’m not the next Kaur or Bly
                I make marks on the world with stale water
                And my writing will fade when I die.”

                The other just raises his eyebrows.
                “I take it you’e finally through?
                With that whiny white noise that your ego enjoys?
                Can’t you ever express something new?

                “You sound like my wife when she’s angry—
                Discounting your nonsense, of course.
                Late at night when she knits and she bitches like this
                It’s amazing you haven’t gone hoarse.

                “My birds used to visit, remember?
                They were hoping you’d prosper and grow
                But Wisdom’s offended that Memory tended
                To you, but you’ve lost what you know.
                So why don’t they join us awhile
                To pay you what you think that I owe.”

                As two ravens fly in from the window
                The man stops to consider his words
                When his lips move, he’s still and he’s silent
                But a voice whispers out from the birds:

                Beneath the pines
                Below the leaves
                Where bones are shrines
                To death achieved
                That’s where you’ll go
                And where you’ll be
                Again you know
                And now you see
                Your spirit shows
                You’re more than dust
                You’ve room to grow
                You can adjust
                Death comes again
                As twice it must
                Returning when
                You’re last discussed
                For throngs of men
                The gap is small
                They’re buried, then
                They’re never called
                For you, the word
                Is fate forestalled
                It’s heaven heard
                Beyond its walls
                Your soul is stirred
                And shines anew
                And grace returned
                Will visit you
                But grace will fade
                Its moments few
                The vows death made
                Are followed through
                Once all is played
                You’ll join the dark
                But what you’ve laid
                May rouse a spark
                And show the world
                That you persisted
                Your hope was hurled
                You once existed
                The future swirls
                It’s never known
                So share those pearls
                You call your own

                The ravens fly out past the window
                The man, with a wink, disappears
                And when all once forgotten emerges
                My heart reconciles and clears

                In the hours between night and morning
                Once I’d heard the advice of a friend
                I abandon my fears to tomorrow
                And I pick up my notebook again

                Excellent encapsulation of why I pwn the libtards here on TNCR. Though my face does command respect.

                You've a white male face, bro. Might wanna rethink that last.

                Please love yourself.

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                  Robin Hood and the Monk
                  —my version, adopted heavily from the Cambridge Ff.5.48 manuscript. This was a real bitch to do.

                  In summer, when the woods were bright
                  And leaves grew large and long,
                  The merry forest welcomed in
                  The sparrows’ morning song

                  The deer were drawing to the dale
                  And left the hillocks free
                  And sheltered in beneath the shade
                  Of vaulted emerald trees

                  White Sunday, when the flowers bloomed
                  So brilliantly in May—
                  They rivaled dawn’s own gilded glow—
                  Such was the scene that day.

                  “A merry sight,” said Little John
                  “By Christ Upon the Cross,
                  To find a man as half-content
                  You’d all be at a loss!”

                  “Pick up your heart, my master, please,”
                  He ventured on to say,
                  “No light is ever fairer than
                  The morning light of May.”

                  “Except I’m troubled,” Robin said,
                  “I’m sorry that it shows.
                  It’s time for Sunday Mass again;
                  It’s there I ought to go.”

                  “It’s been a fortnight since I’ve been—
                  Much longer than I’d planned.
                  I’ll try today—but led, with luck
                  By Mary’s gentle hand.”

                  Along came Much, the Miller’s son,
                  Who took the two aside.
                  “So bring a dozen merry men
                  And let them be your guide!
                  If any wished to do you harm,
                  They’d risk their suicide.”

                  “Just one, my friend,” said Robin Hood,
                  “To keep us out of sight.
                  So Little John shall hold my bow—
                  Unless we find a fight.”

                  “You’ll hold your own,” said Little John,
                  “And me, I’ll carry mine.
                  In fact, a dollar wager for the man
                  Who shoots the truer line.”

                  “A dollar? No,” said Robin back
                  “Let’s have a little fun:
                  For besting me in archery,
                  I’ll give you three-to-one.”

                  They wagered once, and wagered twice
                  As both dared not to lose
                  ‘Till Little John had won enough
                  To buy new socks and shoes.

                  Then silence grew between the two
                  As Robin stormed ahead
                  The other tried to claim his prize
                  When Robin turned his head.

                  He fiercely struck at Little John—
                  “You cheated!” Robin roared
                  And Little John responded fast
                  By brandishing his sword.

                  “Were you another’s master, Robin,
                  I’d sorely make you pay.
                  Return to town. Go where you will.
                  You walk alone today.”

                  So Robin walked to Nottingham,
                  Uneasy and alone,
                  And Little John, to Sherwood by
                  The paths he’d always known.

                  And later, once in Nottingham,
                  A hooded man began
                  To pray to Mary and to God
                  To see him safe again.

                  He stepped inside Saint Mary’s church
                  And knelt before the Lord
                  And all within saw Robin Hood
                  Alone, save bow and sword.

                  Across from him, a local monk
                  Whose head sat full and round
                  Identified the visitor
                  And quickly spun around

                  He bolted out the door and sought
                  The sheriff as he fled—
                  Disrupting Robin’s sanctuary,
                  Betraying him instead.

                  While searching all of Nottingham,
                  He told the sheriff’s men:
                  “Secure the gates and arm yourself—
                  The Thief returns again!”

                  He found the sheriff as he yelled,
                  “Rise up, and fix your ears!
                  Surround the church with all your guards,
                  Your ‘Robin Hood’ is here!

                  I saw the felon there myself,
                  Attending Sunday mass
                  The failure’s yours and yours alone
                  If he’s allowed to pass!

                  I know the traitor, same as you—
                  He sprang and robbed me blind!
                  A hundred pounds he took from me—
                  It’s never left my mind.”

                  The sheriff nodded, thanked the monk
                  And smiled, now content.
                  He mobilized his strongest men
                  And to the church they went.

                  They beat upon St. Mary’s doors
                  With staves dispersed and drawn
                  “‘Just two,’ I said,” spat Robin Hood,
                  “And now, no Little John!”

                  He drew his longsword out at once
                  And held it by his knee,
                  Then charged against the sheriff’s men
                  Their staves now swinging free

                  Thrice through did Robin come at them
                  And those who saw it say
                  He wounded countless armored guards
                  And twelve he killed that day.

                  His sword, upon the sheriff’s head,
                  Abruptly broke in two.
                  “The smith that made you,” Robin said,
                  “Deserves to be run through!

                  I’m weaponless, and so I yield,
                  Before more blood is spilled.
                  (And if I ran, they barred the gates—
                  They’d surely have me killed.)”

                  ————————————

                  Within the forest, past the towns,
                  Beyond their field and glen,
                  Stood Little John, who spoke at once
                  Before the merry men:

                  “Our master’s not returned and I
                  Suspect he’s locked away.
                  But quiet! Listen up, my friends,
                  And hear what I would say—

                  He’s served Our Lady piously;
                  For us, She will provide.
                  Because of Her, despite my fears,
                  I don’t believe he died.

                  So please be glad,” said Little John,
                  “And let your mourning go.
                  I’ll leave with Much to bring him back;
                  The monk? We’ll bring him low.
                  If Mild Mary lends Her might,
                  We’ll give him what he’s owed.

                  Keep watch upon our meeting tree
                  And while we’re down the trail,
                  Bring back that summer venison
                  That stalks our wooded vale.”

                  They crossed the forest, John and Much—
                  Beyond the trees, the two
                  Arrived at Much’s uncle’s house,
                  The highway in full view.

                  The morning came, and from the house,
                  The two companions saw
                  The monk come riding with a Page
                  In the gentle light of dawn.

                  “By faith alone,” said Little John,
                  “Our luck would be this good!
                  The very monk we’re looking for—
                  I know him by his hood!”

                  They joined the road, both Much and John,
                  And like two gentlemen
                  Approached the monk and little Page
                  As if they’d been old friends

                  “From where’d you come?” asked Little John.
                  “I’d heard a merchant say
                  An outlaw stalking Nottingham
                  Was taken yesterday.

                  He stole from us some twenty marks—
                  We wondered if you knew
                  Was what our friend had said of his
                  Incarceration true?”

                  “A hundred pounds,” The monk replied,
                  “He lifted from my purse!
                  He’s captured, thanks to me alone;
                  It’s I who saw him first.”

                  “Give thanks to God!” said Little John,
                  “We’d like to, if we may,
                  Provide you two some company
                  And bring you on your way.

                  It’s up to you—the two of us
                  Aren’t felons to be feared;
                  But Robin’s woods have many friends
                  and you could disappear.”

                  He’d gladly bear their company,
                  The monk told Little John.
                  But the king was waiting for his word,
                  So they continued on.

                  John walked beside the monk awhile,
                  Then turned to speak. Instead,
                  He grabbed the horse the monk was on
                  And yanked him by the head.

                  Then Much locked arms around the Page
                  In case he tried to stray,
                  As John pulled down the hefty monk
                  Whose horse began to bray.

                  When Little John unsheathed his sword,
                  His wild eyes grew wide;
                  The monk, who saw his death at-hand
                  Fell to his knees and cried.

                  “You jailed my master,” shouted John,
                  “Your soul I see is rotten!
                  You’ll never meet our king. What’s more,
                  Your fate will be forgotten.”

                  John slew the monk and took his head,
                  Dispatching him to hell,
                  Then Much removed the Page’s, too,
                  For fear that he might tell.

                  They stole the letters from their bags,
                  As swords rejoined their sheaths,
                  They buried both the page and monk
                  In shallow graves beneath

                  When John appeared before the king,
                  He knelt upon his knee,
                  “May God preserve you, lord,” he said,
                  “And Jesus save and see!”

                  He gave him letters that the monk
                  Had kept before he died
                  The king drew close, inspecting them
                  At once, and then replied:

                  “Upon my throne, there never was
                  Such trouble on my mind,
                  Or a yeoman all throughout our land
                  I wanted more to find.

                  But where’s the monk who wrote to me?
                  I’d see him, if I may.”
                  “My lord, I’m sorry,” mumbled John,
                  “He died along the way.”

                  The king gave Much and Little John
                  Both twenty pounds before
                  He made them yeomen of the crown
                  Requesting one thing more:

                  He gave to John his seal in-hand—
                  The sheriff, as his arm,
                  Shall carry Robin to the king
                  But none shall do him harm.

                  Then John and Much took leave at once,
                  And as the stories say,
                  Toward Nottingham they never stopped—
                  They ran for one full day.

                  When Little John and Much arrived,
                  The outer gates were barred.
                  They tried in vain to lift them up,
                  And called upon a guard:

                  “What cause is there,” John asked of him,
                  To bar the gates so fast?”
                  “Because of Robin Hood,” he said,
                  “In prison now at last!

                  “Will Scarlock, Little John and Much,
                  Those friends of Robin Hood,
                  They sometimes stalk about these walls—
                  They'd kill us if they could.”

                  The two produced the royal seal,
                  The guardsmen let them in,
                  And by the village square, they found
                  The sheriff with his men.

                  John drew the message from the king
                  Removed its outer band
                  And with the sheriff looking on,
                  John placed it in his hand.

                  The sheriff glanced upon the seal
                  And said, “The monk’s not here?
                  But where’s he gone?” he asked of John,
                  And turned so he could hear.

                  “He’s now an abbot,” John replied,
                  “As true as I now stand:
                  Westminster Abbey. Ordered by
                  The Crown and God’s command.”

                  The sheriff smiled at the two,
                  And treated them as guests.
                  By night, the group retired to
                  Their beds to take their rest.

                  And later, as the sheriff slept,
                  Still drunk on wine and ale,
                  Both Little John and Much arose
                  To slip inside the jail.

                  The two snuck up behind the guard:
                  “Wake up!” said Little John—
                  “The bandit, Robin Hood, escaped!
                  Get up! You see? He’s gone!”

                  The jailer readied straight away
                  But startled at the call,
                  So with a sword, John ran him through—
                  He died against the wall.

                  “I’ve been demoted to a guard,”
                  Said John with teasing eyes.
                  He took the keys to Robin’s cell
                  And freed him of his ties.

                  He offered him the jailer’s sword
                  Which seemed to be well-kept
                  Then, once they scaled the village wall,
                  In darkness, down they leapt.

                  That morning, when the roosters crowed
                  And twilight gently fell,
                  The Sheriff found the jailer’s corpse
                  And struck the common bell.

                  “My villagers!” he shouted out,
                  “If you can hold a sword
                  And carry Robin Hood to me,
                  You’ll name your own reward!

                  I cannot dare approach the king—
                  Our prisoner has fled!
                  And if he knew what happened here,
                  He’d surely have my head!”

                  He ran to scour Nottingham,
                  Through every street and stall,
                  And Robin, back in Sherwood, smiled:
                  Uninjured after all.

                  Then Little John addressed his master:
                  “I’ve something I must say—
                  You owe a debt, but I’ve made good—
                  Repay me when you may.”

                  “Our bitterness is now cleared up,
                  Again I clearly say.
                  I’ve brought you through our greenwood line
                  Now see me on my way.”

                  “I don’t accept your leave,” said Robin,
                  Not now, not even then!
                  Instead, let’s make you master of
                  This group of merry men.”

                  “A fellow’s who I am,” said John,
                  “And shall I ever be.
                  Throughout our dark ordeal today,
                  It’s clear for all to see:
                  A master’s life is death delayed—
                  Too dangerous for me.”

                  Then John and Robin joined the rest
                  Of Sherwood’s merry men
                  And when they saw him whole and sound
                  They cheered throughout the glen.

                  A messenger soon told the king
                  A tale beyond belief:
                  His sheriff, bested by the men
                  Of Sherwood’s master thief.

                  But as the king began to speak,
                  His wrath was quickly quelled:
                  “That ‘Little John’ beguiled me—
                  My sheriff fooled as well!

                  The merry men have tricked us both
                  It’s obvious to me
                  I ought to hang my Sheriff up
                  From England’s tallest tree.

                  I made them yeomen of the crown,
                  Put money in their hands,
                  Then pardoned Little John and Much
                  Throughout my sovereign lands!

                  What John himself contended with,
                  The lengths through which he’s gone,
                  Because he loves his master so,
                  I’m calling him Saint John.

                  And Robin’s ever in his debt—
                  By stable, street and stall,
                  I’ll tell you this, and speak no more:
                  ‘Saint John’ has tricked us all.”

                  Thus ends the Story of the Monk
                  Except to offer this:
                  May Robin’s luck run ever-long—
                  May Mary’s grace be his!

                  Please love yourself.

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                    Aqua, is The Old Man yours? Love it, so I hope so. It has your voice.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      Aqua, is The Old Man yours? Love it, so I hope so. It has your voice.

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                      @Mik said in The poetry thread:

                      Aqua, is The Old Man yours? Love it, so I hope so. It has your voice.

                      Yeah, that was mine. Thanks, man.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        @Mik said in The poetry thread:

                        Aqua, is The Old Man yours? Love it, so I hope so. It has your voice.

                        Yeah, that was mine. Thanks, man.

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                        @Aqua-Letifer ♥

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                          Fire and Ice
                          —Robert Frost

                          Some say the world will end in fire,
                          Some say in ice.
                          From what I’ve tasted of desire
                          I hold with those who favor fire.
                          But if it had to perish twice,
                          I think I know enough of hate
                          To say that for destruction ice
                          Is also great
                          And would suffice.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            Fire and Ice
                            —Robert Frost

                            Some say the world will end in fire,
                            Some say in ice.
                            From what I’ve tasted of desire
                            I hold with those who favor fire.
                            But if it had to perish twice,
                            I think I know enough of hate
                            To say that for destruction ice
                            Is also great
                            And would suffice.

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                            @Aqua-Letifer

                            Love that.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              @Aqua-Letifer

                              Love that.

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                              @Mik said in The poetry thread:

                              @Aqua-Letifer

                              Love that.

                              Typical tone for ol' "Bitter Frost," but yeah, still good. 😄

                              Please love yourself.

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                                Some good and interesting stuff here!!!!

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                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    'When You Are Old' (1892) by W.B.Yeats

                                    When you are old and grey and full of sleep,

                                    And nodding by the fire, take down this book,

                                    And slowly read, and dream of the soft look

                                    Your eyes had once, and of their shadows deep;

                                    How many loved your moments of glad grace,

                                    And loved your beauty with love false or true,

                                    But one man loved the pilgrim soul in you,

                                    And loved the sorrows of your changing face;

                                    And bending down beside the glowing bars,

                                    Murmur, a little sadly, how Love fled

                                    And paced upon the mountains overhead

                                    And hid his face amid a crowd of stars.

                                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                      It's World Poetry Day, so here you go.

                                      I wrote this about 11 years ago, give or take.

                                      (For those interested, instead of iambic pentameter or some other form we borrowed from the Greeks, this was written in fornyrðislag, a pretty common alliterative verse form in medieval Iceland and Anglo-Saxon areas. It's good for long narratives.)

                                      Contemplate carefully your curious eyes:
                                      Your world-windows and wondrous informers
                                      For our forebears, foregone by eras,
                                      Scores of secrets their sight could tell:
                                      Where to find water, when the stars
                                      Brought beasts beyond the plains,
                                      The time of tides.

                                      This talent evolved
                                      As with our ancestors, answering questions
                                      Broader, more bold; we're able by sight
                                      To compare, discover, equate and to judge.
                                      We discern by sight—we see and believe.

                                      Are we bounded by the blessings of broader sight?
                                      We've clever inventions, devices to cast
                                      Ourselves into stars, inside each atom;
                                      We've mapped the material, mastered its puzzles.
                                      But still we sit through each second's passing:
                                      Powerless against perpetual Present, we remain
                                      Interned by time.

                                      We've turned in the past
                                      To soothsayers and sages to scry our fortunes,
                                      With vague visions and evasive hereafters
                                      Granting but glimpses of the games Fates played,
                                      Their schemes still concealed.

                                      Now consider our Future:
                                      Devoid of diviners, prevailing by reason,
                                      We swap sages for science, trade
                                      Mysticism for method. Must our vision
                                      Still be restricted, stuck in the Now?
                                      Can our complex, accomplished technology
                                      Award us the wisdom once reserved
                                      For Fates and far-seers? What fears await us
                                      When science assumes Second Sight?

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        An original 5-minute doggerel knock together...

                                        In an obscure corner of the net
                                        Resided the battling bastards
                                        Screeching, arguing, but yet
                                        Sometimes they quit flinging words

                                        Strangely, they really did care
                                        What happened to one and all
                                        Trampling the growing tares,
                                        To lay down their mace and ball

                                        Fare thee well, my electronic friend
                                        I wish you no lasting sorrow
                                        And that you be made whole again
                                        That I may kick your ass on the morrow

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          An original 5-minute doggerel knock together...

                                          In an obscure corner of the net
                                          Resided the battling bastards
                                          Screeching, arguing, but yet
                                          Sometimes they quit flinging words

                                          Strangely, they really did care
                                          What happened to one and all
                                          Trampling the growing tares,
                                          To lay down their mace and ball

                                          Fare thee well, my electronic friend
                                          I wish you no lasting sorrow
                                          And that you be made whole again
                                          That I may kick your ass on the morrow

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                                          @Jolly said in The poetry thread:

                                          An original 5-minute doggerel knock together...

                                          In an obscure corner of the net
                                          Resided the battling bastards
                                          Screeching, arguing, but yet
                                          Sometimes they quit flinging words

                                          Strangely, they really did care
                                          What happened to one and all
                                          Trampling the growing tares,
                                          To lay down their mace and ball

                                          Fare thee well, my electronic friend
                                          I wish you no lasting sorrow
                                          And that you be made whole again
                                          That I may kick your ass on the morrow

                                          An ode to pwning libtards.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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