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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    Should they?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/09/uk-considers-supplying-handful-of-challenger-2-tanks-to-ukraine-war-russia

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      Should they?

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/09/uk-considers-supplying-handful-of-challenger-2-tanks-to-ukraine-war-russia

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      Doctor Phibes
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      @Jolly said in Challenger:

      Should they?

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/09/uk-considers-supplying-handful-of-challenger-2-tanks-to-ukraine-war-russia

      I don't see why not. If they're British just don't try starting them on a cold, damp morning.

      I was only joking

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        @Jolly said in Challenger:

        Should they?

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/09/uk-considers-supplying-handful-of-challenger-2-tanks-to-ukraine-war-russia

        I don't see why not. If they're British just don't try starting them on a cold, damp morning.

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        @Doctor-Phibes said in Challenger:

        @Jolly said in Challenger:

        Should they?

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/09/uk-considers-supplying-handful-of-challenger-2-tanks-to-ukraine-war-russia

        I don't see why not. If they're British just don't try starting them on a cold, damp morning.

        You'd think that, being British, that would be the very first engineering problem to solve.

        Please love yourself.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Challenger:

          @Jolly said in Challenger:

          Should they?

          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/09/uk-considers-supplying-handful-of-challenger-2-tanks-to-ukraine-war-russia

          I don't see why not. If they're British just don't try starting them on a cold, damp morning.

          You'd think that, being British, that would be the very first engineering problem to solve.

          Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          @Aqua-Letifer said in Challenger:

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Challenger:

          @Jolly said in Challenger:

          Should they?

          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/09/uk-considers-supplying-handful-of-challenger-2-tanks-to-ukraine-war-russia

          I don't see why not. If they're British just don't try starting them on a cold, damp morning.

          You'd think that, being British, that would be the very first engineering problem to solve.

          Famed Australian commentator Clive James once said that the British labour under the delusion that they live in a tropical climate, and they design everything, from suitcases to houses to cars accordingly.

          I was only joking

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            Should they?

            https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/09/uk-considers-supplying-handful-of-challenger-2-tanks-to-ukraine-war-russia

            RenaudaR Offline
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            Renauda
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            @Jolly

            Should they? Yes, of course.

            Elbows up!

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              Sure. We need to give them whatever it takes to prevail.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                Tucker's not going to like this at all.

                Which is another good reason to do it.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  Tucker's not going to like this at all.

                  Which is another good reason to do it.

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                  @Doctor-Phibes

                  He’ll be outraged as I’m not at all certain that Tucker is aware that the UK is a sovereign country.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                    @Doctor-Phibes

                    He’ll be outraged as I’m not at all certain that Tucker is aware that the UK is a sovereign country.

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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    @Renauda said in Challenger:

                    @Doctor-Phibes

                    He’ll be outraged as I’m not at all certain that Tucker is aware that the UK is a sovereign country.

                    Not since the Islamic takeover that Fox was so worried about.

                    I was only joking

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
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                      I wonder.

                      One of the "problems" with French, American, German and God knows what else equipment, is parts and service, especially if the equipment is a dozen here or there. None of this stuff is new and it's going to break. And different types of armor take different types of training. At least most of the NATO stuff can use the same ammo, in a pinch.

                      I don't know if this small amount of tanks may not cause more problems than they solve.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        I wonder.

                        One of the "problems" with French, American, German and God knows what else equipment, is parts and service, especially if the equipment is a dozen here or there. None of this stuff is new and it's going to break. And different types of armor take different types of training. At least most of the NATO stuff can use the same ammo, in a pinch.

                        I don't know if this small amount of tanks may not cause more problems than they solve.

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                        Renauda
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                        @Jolly

                        That’s a valid point. At least they can service older Soviet vintage equipment laying around in former WP arsenals.

                        More importantly it ties into the question as to what are NATO’s, and more specifically Washington’s, objectives in this war as this article from the Guardian points out:

                        https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/10/us-victory-ukraine-lives-conflict-war-iraq-afghanistan?CMP=share_btn_link

                        Elbows up!

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