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The Russian influence on 2016 elections

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    After all the hair-on-fire screeching we heard, there's no there there.

    Russia's efforts to sway the 2016 U.S. presidential election in Donald Trump's favor by influencing voters on Twitter had no discernible impact whatsoever, according to a new study by New York University's Center for Social Media and Politics.

    "We find no evidence of a meaningful relationship between exposure to the Russian foreign influence campaign and changes in attitudes, polarization, or voting behavior," wrote the study's authors.

    This observation is well-supported by a few key findings. Just 1 percent of Twitter users absorbed about 70 percent of the so-called Russian disinformation, meaning that a tiny fraction of overall users encountered actual Russian trolls. These users were overwhelmingly partisan Republicans; there is no reason to think that masses of gullible swing voters who might have voted for Hillary Clinton were hoodwinked by Russia and opted for Trump instead.

    And this finding closely tracks previous research on the same subject. A 2019 review by Science magazine found that just 1 percent of Twitter users were exposed to 80 percent of the misinformation present, and these tended to be older, extremely partisan users—people who were already voting for Trump, in other words. Another study by researchers at the University of Colorado Boulder found that 94 percent of Twitter users never shared this kind of content.

    The NYU study also replicates a central finding of these earlier reviews of the research: namely, the amount of time, money, and effort Russia spent on influencing social media users was a drop in the bucket compared with the work being done by the Trump and Clinton campaigns themselves, as well as the attention being paid to the candidates by U.S. media outlets.

    "Content from the news media and U.S. politicians dwarfed the amount of Russian influence content the electorate was exposed to during the 2016 race," The Washington Post notes on the NYU study.

    The Post's Tim Starks highlighted the study's findings in a recent article. The news probably came as a surprise to many readers; unfortunately, mainstream and liberal consumers of political news have been conditioned to believe that misinformation—often of foreign and Russian origin—is the source of countless modern maladies. But time and time again, data tell a different story.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      I'm sure Putin reveled in all that talk about Russia's power. Maybe that's why he went into Ukraine. He thought the west was all clowns.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        I think the Russian influence chatter is pretty much equal and opposite to the ‘election fraud’ bullshit from 2020.

        Nobody’s going to admit it, obviously.

        I was only joking

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        • MikM Mik

          I'm sure Putin reveled in all that talk about Russia's power. Maybe that's why he went into Ukraine. He thought the west was all clowns.

          George KG Offline
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          @Mik said in The Russian influence on 2016 elections:

          He thought the west was all clowns.

          Well?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            @Mik said in The Russian influence on 2016 elections:

            He thought the west was all clowns.

            Well?

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            @George-K said in The Russian influence on 2016 elections:

            @Mik said in The Russian influence on 2016 elections:

            He thought the west was all clowns.

            Well?

            We're not all clowns. Some of us are busily working behind the scenes in order to feed the circus animals - primarily the elephants and donkeys.

            I was only joking

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @George-K said in The Russian influence on 2016 elections:

              @Mik said in The Russian influence on 2016 elections:

              He thought the west was all clowns.

              Well?

              We're not all clowns. Some of us are busily working behind the scenes in order to feed the circus animals - primarily the elephants and donkeys.

              RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
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              @Doctor-Phibes

              😁

              Elbows up!

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