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  • MikM Away
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    Mik
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    #2

    He’s right, of course. Our short attention span culture and media demagoguery have led us to a point where we automatically dismiss ideas based on who presented them rather than the content.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      You think? IIRC, in the early days of Internet, television dumbed down as the Internet grew, leading to the conclusion that intellectuals or even mildly smart people were fleeing to the Net, leaving TV to dumb down or die.

      Could it be that intellectuals are curating their Net browsing (and eshewing social media altogether) for the same reasons? And they're just not as visible anymore?

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        My favorite case in point is Jordan Peterson, who gets flippantly dismissed by anybody with a left-leaning perspective. It is literally impossible to maintain intellectual credibility with circa half the American population, if you express political opinions.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • MikM Mik

          He’s right, of course. Our short attention span culture and media demagoguery have led us to a point where we automatically dismiss ideas based on who presented them rather than the content.

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          #5

          @Mik said in The Intellectuals:

          He’s right, of course. Our short attention span culture and media demagoguery have led us to a point where we automatically dismiss ideas based on who presented them rather than the content.

          Agreed, another problem with the short attention spans (exacerbated by Twitter) is that people that might have been old-style intellectuals in another era have today drifted into punditry or even activism, which diminishes or even corrupts them by encouraging hot takes on every issue of the day.

          Who knows, if, say, Oakeshott and Dworkin had had Twitter accounts they might have been dumbed down too.

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            A Cal Thomas column...

            https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jan/4/where-have-all-intellectuals-gone/

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            @Jolly said in The Intellectuals:

            A Cal Thomas column...

            https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jan/4/where-have-all-intellectuals-gone/

            TL; DR.

            Anybody want to post a quick summary?

            I was only joking

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @Jolly said in The Intellectuals:

              A Cal Thomas column...

              https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jan/4/where-have-all-intellectuals-gone/

              TL; DR.

              Anybody want to post a quick summary?

              jon-nycJ Online
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              jon-nyc
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              @Doctor-Phibes said in The Intellectuals:

              @Jolly said in The Intellectuals:

              A Cal Thomas column...

              https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jan/4/where-have-all-intellectuals-gone/

              TL; DR.

              Anybody want to post a quick summary?

              Not dissing the piece at all, but the TL;DR is the headline. Left and right, there just aren’t intellectuals working today of the stature of a generation or two ago.

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @Doctor-Phibes said in The Intellectuals:

                @Jolly said in The Intellectuals:

                A Cal Thomas column...

                https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jan/4/where-have-all-intellectuals-gone/

                TL; DR.

                Anybody want to post a quick summary?

                Not dissing the piece at all, but the TL;DR is the headline. Left and right, there just aren’t intellectuals working today of the stature of a generation or two ago.

                Doctor PhibesD Offline
                Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                @jon-nyc said in The Intellectuals:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in The Intellectuals:

                @Jolly said in The Intellectuals:

                A Cal Thomas column...

                https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jan/4/where-have-all-intellectuals-gone/

                TL; DR.

                Anybody want to post a quick summary?

                Not dissing the piece at all, but the TL;DR is the headline. Left and right, there just aren’t intellectuals working today of the stature of a generation or two ago.

                I think maybe you missed my joke 🙂

                (Article complains about lack of intellectual depth. Moron asks for brief summary as he can't be bothered to read it)

                I was only joking

                MikM jon-nycJ 2 Replies Last reply
                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @jon-nyc said in The Intellectuals:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in The Intellectuals:

                  @Jolly said in The Intellectuals:

                  A Cal Thomas column...

                  https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jan/4/where-have-all-intellectuals-gone/

                  TL; DR.

                  Anybody want to post a quick summary?

                  Not dissing the piece at all, but the TL;DR is the headline. Left and right, there just aren’t intellectuals working today of the stature of a generation or two ago.

                  I think maybe you missed my joke 🙂

                  (Article complains about lack of intellectual depth. Moron asks for brief summary as he can't be bothered to read it)

                  MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #9

                  @Doctor-Phibes I didn’t miss it. 😁

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Intellectuals:

                    @Jolly said in The Intellectuals:

                    A Cal Thomas column...

                    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jan/4/where-have-all-intellectuals-gone/

                    TL; DR.

                    Anybody want to post a quick summary?

                    Not dissing the piece at all, but the TL;DR is the headline. Left and right, there just aren’t intellectuals working today of the stature of a generation or two ago.

                    MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #10

                    @jon-nyc said in The Intellectuals:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Intellectuals:

                    @Jolly said in The Intellectuals:

                    A Cal Thomas column...

                    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jan/4/where-have-all-intellectuals-gone/

                    TL; DR.

                    Anybody want to post a quick summary?

                    Not dissing the piece at all, but the TL;DR is the headline. Left and right, there just aren’t intellectuals working today of the stature of a generation or two ago.

                    Yes. They begin with the outcome predetermined and work from there to justify it.

                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @jon-nyc said in The Intellectuals:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Intellectuals:

                      @Jolly said in The Intellectuals:

                      A Cal Thomas column...

                      https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jan/4/where-have-all-intellectuals-gone/

                      TL; DR.

                      Anybody want to post a quick summary?

                      Not dissing the piece at all, but the TL;DR is the headline. Left and right, there just aren’t intellectuals working today of the stature of a generation or two ago.

                      I think maybe you missed my joke 🙂

                      (Article complains about lack of intellectual depth. Moron asks for brief summary as he can't be bothered to read it)

                      jon-nycJ Online
                      jon-nycJ Online
                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #11

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Intellectuals:

                      @jon-nyc said in The Intellectuals:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Intellectuals:

                      @Jolly said in The Intellectuals:

                      A Cal Thomas column...

                      https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jan/4/where-have-all-intellectuals-gone/

                      TL; DR.

                      Anybody want to post a quick summary?

                      Not dissing the piece at all, but the TL;DR is the headline. Left and right, there just aren’t intellectuals working today of the stature of a generation or two ago.

                      I think maybe you missed my joke 🙂

                      (Article complains about lack of intellectual depth. Moron asks for brief summary as he can't be bothered to read it)

                      I've known you're a moron for so long I forget how funny it is.

                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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