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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
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    #12

    I don't really understand why he singled out teachers unions.

    He must have had a bad experience or something.

    I was only joking

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    • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on last edited by
      #13

      So, what's a skill you absolutely need to have in place if you're to be a CEO? High confidence in yourself and your ability to make decisions, and strong conviction about what you're trying to achieve.

      Which groups of people have these in spades?

      • Confident people who actually have good ideas
      • Dunning-Kruger University graduates
      • Sociopaths

      Pretty well established that CEOs compose a subset of society that has a much higher than average sociopath proportion. And considering the CEO culture in America doesn't punish job-hopping, the community creates a richer pool of locusts leeches sociopaths than what you'd find elsewhere.

      Please love yourself.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        So, what's a skill you absolutely need to have in place if you're to be a CEO? High confidence in yourself and your ability to make decisions, and strong conviction about what you're trying to achieve.

        Which groups of people have these in spades?

        • Confident people who actually have good ideas
        • Dunning-Kruger University graduates
        • Sociopaths

        Pretty well established that CEOs compose a subset of society that has a much higher than average sociopath proportion. And considering the CEO culture in America doesn't punish job-hopping, the community creates a richer pool of locusts leeches sociopaths than what you'd find elsewhere.

        HoraceH Offline
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        Horace
        wrote on last edited by
        #14

        @Aqua-Letifer said in The Leeches:

        So, what's a skill you absolutely need to have in place if you're to be a CEO? High confidence in yourself and your ability to make decisions, and strong conviction about what you're trying to achieve.

        Which groups of people have these in spades?

        • Confident people who actually have good ideas
        • Dunning-Kruger University graduates
        • Sociopaths

        Pretty well established that CEOs compose a subset of society that has a much higher than average sociopath proportion. And considering the CEO culture in America doesn't punish job-hopping, the community creates a richer pool of locusts leeches sociopaths than what you'd find elsewhere.

        This is true.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          So, what's a skill you absolutely need to have in place if you're to be a CEO? High confidence in yourself and your ability to make decisions, and strong conviction about what you're trying to achieve.

          Which groups of people have these in spades?

          • Confident people who actually have good ideas
          • Dunning-Kruger University graduates
          • Sociopaths

          Pretty well established that CEOs compose a subset of society that has a much higher than average sociopath proportion. And considering the CEO culture in America doesn't punish job-hopping, the community creates a richer pool of locusts leeches sociopaths than what you'd find elsewhere.

          Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on last edited by
          #15

          @Aqua-Letifer said in The Leeches:

          So, what's a skill you absolutely need to have in place if you're to be a CEO?

          Shouting, mostly.

          Link to video

          I was only joking

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @Horace said in The Leeches:

            Anybody who sells their art would be a creator.

            I can name two functions of artists in society that are far more impactful than anything they might sell in terms of what they do for the economy. And they never make a dime from them.

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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #16

            @Aqua-Letifer said in The Leeches:

            @Horace said in The Leeches:

            Anybody who sells their art would be a creator.

            I can name two functions of artists in society that are far more impactful than anything they might sell in terms of what they do for the economy. And they never make a dime from them.

            And those are?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @Aqua-Letifer said in The Leeches:

              @Horace said in The Leeches:

              Anybody who sells their art would be a creator.

              I can name two functions of artists in society that are far more impactful than anything they might sell in terms of what they do for the economy. And they never make a dime from them.

              And those are?

              Aqua LetiferA Offline
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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
              #17

              @Jolly said in The Leeches:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in The Leeches:

              @Horace said in The Leeches:

              Anybody who sells their art would be a creator.

              I can name two functions of artists in society that are far more impactful than anything they might sell in terms of what they do for the economy. And they never make a dime from them.

              And those are?

              Artists taught just about every business on the planet how to monetize social media. (I'm talking about who innovated, not who copied.) What they did drew attention on those platforms, which taught others how to draw their own.

              Artists are almost always behind the gentrification of shitty neighborhoods. They move in there, because they're worthless leeches who refuse to get a real job. Then, they start doing what they do: making murals, starting bands, sharing their work in shitty gallery spaces. Which starts to change the dynamic: a slum turns into a place where cool shit is happening. It draws in a few small businesses who dip their toe into starting up a sandwich or coffee shop. Which does rake in customers, because (1) they're new, and (2) the place is talked about in local papers and online thanks to what artists have done to revitalize the space. In a couple of years you have a fucking Starbucks and a 3,000% rent increase that the artists can't afford, so they move on to the next shitty neighborhood and start it all up again.

              Tally up every single once-shitty, up-and-coming neighborhood anywhere in America with absolutely no art or music scene, I dare you.

              Please love yourself.

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              • MikM Offline
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                Mik
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                #18

                To call people who banded together to exercise what power they had leeches is so far off the mark. The fault lies in the true leeches who spent public monies pandering to them.

                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @Jolly said in The Leeches:

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in The Leeches:

                  @Horace said in The Leeches:

                  Anybody who sells their art would be a creator.

                  I can name two functions of artists in society that are far more impactful than anything they might sell in terms of what they do for the economy. And they never make a dime from them.

                  And those are?

                  Artists taught just about every business on the planet how to monetize social media. (I'm talking about who innovated, not who copied.) What they did drew attention on those platforms, which taught others how to draw their own.

                  Artists are almost always behind the gentrification of shitty neighborhoods. They move in there, because they're worthless leeches who refuse to get a real job. Then, they start doing what they do: making murals, starting bands, sharing their work in shitty gallery spaces. Which starts to change the dynamic: a slum turns into a place where cool shit is happening. It draws in a few small businesses who dip their toe into starting up a sandwich or coffee shop. Which does rake in customers, because (1) they're new, and (2) the place is talked about in local papers and online thanks to what artists have done to revitalize the space. In a couple of years you have a fucking Starbucks and a 3,000% rent increase that the artists can't afford, so they move on to the next shitty neighborhood and start it all up again.

                  Tally up every single once-shitty, up-and-coming neighborhood anywhere in America with absolutely no art or music scene, I dare you.

                  JollyJ Offline
                  JollyJ Offline
                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #19

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in The Leeches:

                  @Jolly said in The Leeches:

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in The Leeches:

                  @Horace said in The Leeches:

                  Anybody who sells their art would be a creator.

                  I can name two functions of artists in society that are far more impactful than anything they might sell in terms of what they do for the economy. And they never make a dime from them.

                  And those are?

                  Artists taught just about every business on the planet how to monetize social media. (I'm talking about who innovated, not who copied.) What they did drew attention on those platforms, which taught others how to draw their own.

                  Artists are almost always behind the gentrification of shitty neighborhoods. They move in there, because they're worthless leeches who refuse to get a real job. Then, they start doing what they do: making murals, starting bands, sharing their work in shitty gallery spaces. Which starts to change the dynamic: a slum turns into a place where cool shit is happening. It draws in a few small businesses who dip their toe into starting up a sandwich or coffee shop. Which does rake in customers, because (1) they're new, and (2) the place is talked about in local papers and online thanks to what artists have done to revitalize the space. In a couple of years you have a fucking Starbucks and a 3,000% rent increase that the artists can't afford, so they move on to the next shitty neighborhood and start it all up again.

                  Tally up every single once-shitty, up-and-coming neighborhood anywhere in America with absolutely no art or music scene, I dare you.

                  By definition, would not artists be Creators?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in The Leeches:

                    @Jolly said in The Leeches:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in The Leeches:

                    @Horace said in The Leeches:

                    Anybody who sells their art would be a creator.

                    I can name two functions of artists in society that are far more impactful than anything they might sell in terms of what they do for the economy. And they never make a dime from them.

                    And those are?

                    Artists taught just about every business on the planet how to monetize social media. (I'm talking about who innovated, not who copied.) What they did drew attention on those platforms, which taught others how to draw their own.

                    Artists are almost always behind the gentrification of shitty neighborhoods. They move in there, because they're worthless leeches who refuse to get a real job. Then, they start doing what they do: making murals, starting bands, sharing their work in shitty gallery spaces. Which starts to change the dynamic: a slum turns into a place where cool shit is happening. It draws in a few small businesses who dip their toe into starting up a sandwich or coffee shop. Which does rake in customers, because (1) they're new, and (2) the place is talked about in local papers and online thanks to what artists have done to revitalize the space. In a couple of years you have a fucking Starbucks and a 3,000% rent increase that the artists can't afford, so they move on to the next shitty neighborhood and start it all up again.

                    Tally up every single once-shitty, up-and-coming neighborhood anywhere in America with absolutely no art or music scene, I dare you.

                    By definition, would not artists be Creators?

                    Aqua LetiferA Offline
                    Aqua LetiferA Offline
                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
                    #20

                    @Jolly said in The Leeches:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in The Leeches:

                    @Jolly said in The Leeches:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in The Leeches:

                    @Horace said in The Leeches:

                    Anybody who sells their art would be a creator.

                    I can name two functions of artists in society that are far more impactful than anything they might sell in terms of what they do for the economy. And they never make a dime from them.

                    And those are?

                    Artists taught just about every business on the planet how to monetize social media. (I'm talking about who innovated, not who copied.) What they did drew attention on those platforms, which taught others how to draw their own.

                    Artists are almost always behind the gentrification of shitty neighborhoods. They move in there, because they're worthless leeches who refuse to get a real job. Then, they start doing what they do: making murals, starting bands, sharing their work in shitty gallery spaces. Which starts to change the dynamic: a slum turns into a place where cool shit is happening. It draws in a few small businesses who dip their toe into starting up a sandwich or coffee shop. Which does rake in customers, because (1) they're new, and (2) the place is talked about in local papers and online thanks to what artists have done to revitalize the space. In a couple of years you have a fucking Starbucks and a 3,000% rent increase that the artists can't afford, so they move on to the next shitty neighborhood and start it all up again.

                    Tally up every single once-shitty, up-and-coming neighborhood anywhere in America with absolutely no art or music scene, I dare you.

                    By definition, would not artists be Creators?

                    In this guy's mind, probably not if they don't make money. And most artists don't.

                    In the context of this conversation, making money requires doing the right things right. The "right things" is what artists do. "Doing them right" is what businesses do.

                    Artists do the right things wrong. They're great at what they do and people do care about it, but most artists don't know how to monetize. That's why they don't make much money on their social media virality—influencers and savvy businesses do when they rip them off.

                    Businesses do the wrong things right. They're very efficient, but no one cares because they don't know how to inspire anyone with their work or attract attention.

                    When you do the right things right, you get Apple and Disney. It's incredible, the shit you can do. But almost no one does that because the two groups don't understand each other. This guy understands precisely as much about the role of artists as artists do about how to run a business.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • MikM Mik

                      To call people who banded together to exercise what power they had leeches is so far off the mark. The fault lies in the true leeches who spent public monies pandering to them.

                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
                      #21

                      @Mik said in The Leeches:

                      To call people who banded together to exercise what power they had leeches is so far off the mark.

                      I agree, but in my experience, conservatives and guys like Mr. CEO here have been the very first in line to call them losers, not understanding how the economy they so enjoy relies on those efforts.

                      Please love yourself.

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