Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”
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I think a comparison to intolerant religious thinking is more appropriate. The Nazis are too extreme. There was little well-meaning about them, and many on the woke side are well-meaning,.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
I think a comparison to intolerant religious thinking is more appropriate. The Nazis are too extreme. There was little well-meaning about them, and many on the woke side are well-meaning,.
It's probably not the case that Nazi supporters considered themselves to be ill-meaning at the time.
Education is extremely important.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
Why not call them mediaeval Roman Catholics? It makes as much sense. Plenty of groups have exhibited intolerance and a holier than though attitude through the years, but for some reason we always jump to Nazi.
Are you honestly saying the "good they've done for the world" / "bad they've done in the world" scorecard for Roman Catholics and Nazis is the same?
Are you honestly saying that Ontario liberals are closer to the Nazi scorecard than the medieval RC one?
The only reason I can think that you're using to use such a silly analogy is to score points against people you don't like and maybe defend people you do, rather than try to accurately describe the situation.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
Why not call them mediaeval Roman Catholics? It makes as much sense. Plenty of groups have exhibited intolerance and a holier than though attitude through the years, but for some reason we always jump to Nazi.
Are you honestly saying the "good they've done for the world" / "bad they've done in the world" scorecard for Roman Catholics and Nazis is the same?
Are you honestly saying that Ontario liberals are closer to the Nazi scorecard than the medieval RC one?
The only reason I can think that you're using to use such a silly analogy is to score points against people you don't like and maybe defend people you do, rather than try to accurately describe the situation.
Consider the source.
Christianity is the debil. (Trivia points for the tv character who compared anything she didn't like to da debil.)
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
Why not call them mediaeval Roman Catholics? It makes as much sense. Plenty of groups have exhibited intolerance and a holier than though attitude through the years, but for some reason we always jump to Nazi.
Are you honestly saying the "good they've done for the world" / "bad they've done in the world" scorecard for Roman Catholics and Nazis is the same?
Are you honestly saying that Ontario liberals are closer to the Nazi scorecard than the medieval RC one?
The only reason I can think that you're using to use such a silly analogy is to score points against people you don't like and maybe defend people you do, rather than try to accurately describe the situation.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
Why not call them mediaeval Roman Catholics? It makes as much sense. Plenty of groups have exhibited intolerance and a holier than though attitude through the years, but for some reason we always jump to Nazi.
Are you honestly saying the "good they've done for the world" / "bad they've done in the world" scorecard for Roman Catholics and Nazis is the same?
Are you honestly saying that Ontario liberals are closer to the Nazi scorecard than the medieval RC one?
The only reason I can think that you're using to use such a silly analogy is to score points against people you don't like and maybe defend people you do, rather than try to accurately describe the situation.
I'm not the one making ludicrous comparisons between Canadians and the Nazis, which was my original point. You can see how stupid my analogy is, but not the other one?
The attitudes of modern liberals are extremely similar to those of intolerant religious people.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
Why not call them mediaeval Roman Catholics? It makes as much sense. Plenty of groups have exhibited intolerance and a holier than though attitude through the years, but for some reason we always jump to Nazi.
Are you honestly saying the "good they've done for the world" / "bad they've done in the world" scorecard for Roman Catholics and Nazis is the same?
Are you honestly saying that Ontario liberals are closer to the Nazi scorecard than the medieval RC one?
The only reason I can think that you're using to use such a silly analogy is to score points against people you don't like and maybe defend people you do, rather than try to accurately describe the situation.
Consider the source.
Christianity is the debil. (Trivia points for the tv character who compared anything she didn't like to da debil.)
@Jolly said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
Consider the source.
You started with the dumbass comparisons, not me.
And I pointedly said 'medieval' Christianity.
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@Jolly said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
Consider the source.
You started with the dumbass comparisons, not me.
And I pointedly said 'medieval' Christianity.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
@Jolly said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
Consider the source.
You started with the dumbass comparisons, not me.
And I pointedly said 'medieval' Christianity.
Hey, I even helped you out!
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I have to admit I do find it quite funny that we can all see the silliness of comparisons between Ontario and Pope Innocent III, but not with Adolf Hitler.
I was only joking
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I have to admit I do find it quite funny that we can all see the silliness of comparisons between Ontario and Pope Innocent III, but not with Adolf Hitler.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
I have to admit I do find it quite funny that we can all see the silliness of comparisons between Ontario and Pope Innocent III, but not with Adolf Hitler.
I think that's because Aqua may have a salient point.
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I have to admit I do find it quite funny that we can all see the silliness of comparisons between Ontario and Pope Innocent III, but not with Adolf Hitler.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
I have to admit I do find it quite funny that we can all see the silliness of comparisons between Ontario and Pope Innocent III, but not with Adolf Hitler.
What do you mean, "we can all see"? I didn't mention Hitler in any of my above responses.
I did describe where I think comparisons between Nazism and this kind of behavior exist, so instead of speaking for me maybe reread what I said to Renauda.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
I have to admit I do find it quite funny that we can all see the silliness of comparisons between Ontario and Pope Innocent III, but not with Adolf Hitler.
What do you mean, "we can all see"? I didn't mention Hitler in any of my above responses.
I did describe where I think comparisons between Nazism and this kind of behavior exist, so instead of speaking for me maybe reread what I said to Renauda.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
What do you mean, "we can all see"? I didn't mention Hitler in any of my above responses.
And I didn't mention Pope Innocent III.
You did accuse me of disliking Catholics, however - so 10 demerit points to you! I never accused you of disliking Canadians, or for that matter Nazis.
I was only joking
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Perception is reality?
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
What do you mean, "we can all see"? I didn't mention Hitler in any of my above responses.
And I didn't mention Pope Innocent III.
You did accuse me of disliking Catholics, however - so 10 demerit points to you! I never accused you of disliking Canadians, or for that matter Nazis.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
What do you mean, "we can all see"? I didn't mention Hitler in any of my above responses.
And I didn't mention Pope Innocent III.
Neither did I, so fuck this.
Please love yourself.
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@Jolly said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
Perception is reality?
It is what it is.
Viruses gonna virus.
Think outside the box.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
What do you mean, "we can all see"? I didn't mention Hitler in any of my above responses.
And I didn't mention Pope Innocent III.
Neither did I, so fuck this.
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Also, I think I should post this before anybody else does
Coincidence?
It is what it is.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
I think a comparison to intolerant religious thinking is more appropriate. The Nazis are too extreme. There was little well-meaning about them, and many on the woke side are well-meaning,.
It's probably not the case that Nazi supporters considered themselves to be ill-meaning at the time.
@Horace said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
I think a comparison to intolerant religious thinking is more appropriate. The Nazis are too extreme. There was little well-meaning about them, and many on the woke side are well-meaning,.
It's probably not the case that Nazi supporters considered themselves to be ill-meaning at the time.
As did English Puritans believe they were doing God’s work in their day.
I think Phibe’s juxtaposition of the modern day Jacobinism, presently called wokism, with the religious intolerance of earlier times is quite appropriate. One of the tangible consequences of both is the emergence of a populist led cancel culture in society.
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A number of my ancestors were Methodists, so we didn't hate anybody, but a number of my older relatives did have a rather disapproving attitude to the consumption of alcoholic beverages, which I have endeavoured to redress.
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Peterson loses appeal in free speech battle
Dr. Jordan Peterson has lost his free speech court battle against the College of Psychologists of Ontario (again).
An Ontario court dismissed his appeal as first reported by the National Post.
No statement from the court was provided.
In August, the Ontario Divisional Court sided against Peterson after deliberating over his right to free speech versus the right of the Ontario College of Psychologists to regulate what licensed psychologists can say in public.
Initially, the College requested Peterson’s voluntary participation to receive social media training in response to public complaints about his online conduct. Peterson declined.
The College subsequently ordered Peterson to undergo the training, and mandated that he finance it.
Peterson took the issue to court, arguing that his Charter right to freedom of expression had been violated.
There are no further opportunities for Dr. Peterson to appeal the decision, making it final.
He will either be forced to undergo whatever social media training is required by the College, or he can refuse and risk having his clinical psychologist license stripped.
Peterson has previously said he will record whatever training he receives.
“I’ll comply with their regulations, but I’m not going to do it in secret… And the reason I’m not going to do it in secret is because I don’t believe I’ve done anything wrong,” he said in August 2023.
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A bit more to it than what that “report” states:
Peterson’s comments did not run afoul of any Canadian laws.
Rather, they were found to have contravened specific rules that exist for psychologists, a regulated profession.
“When individuals join a regulated profession, they do not lose their Charter right to freedom of expression,” says the ruling by the Ontario Divisional Court from August. “At the same time, however, they take on obligations and must abide by the rules of their regulatory body that may limit their freedom of expression.”
Essentially the courts do not want to get involved in disputes between licensed professions and their regulatory colleges.
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[Cynic hat on]
Presumably he makes a lot more money from his non-psychological stuff than he does from his old job, so this is going to be a good opportunity for yet more publicity.
