Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”

[Jolly]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

Why not call them mediaeval Roman Catholics? It makes as much sense. Plenty of groups have exhibited intolerance and a holier than though attitude through the years, but for some reason we always jump to Nazi.

Are you honestly saying the "good they've done for the world" / "bad they've done in the world" scorecard for Roman Catholics and Nazis is the same?

I think he would confine it to a certain timeframe.

OTOH, National Socialism didn't rise to domination in the early 30's, without a lot of positive actions, which actually drew praise from many prominent people around the world.

[Doctor Phibes]

I think a comparison to intolerant religious thinking is more appropriate. The Nazis are too extreme. There was little well-meaning about them, and many on the woke side are well-meaning,.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

Why not call them mediaeval Roman Catholics? It makes as much sense. Plenty of groups have exhibited intolerance and a holier than though attitude through the years, but for some reason we always jump to Nazi.

Are you honestly saying the "good they've done for the world" / "bad they've done in the world" scorecard for Roman Catholics and Nazis is the same?

Are you honestly saying that Ontario liberals are closer to the Nazi scorecard than the medieval RC one?

The only reason I can think that you're using to use such a silly analogy is to score points against people you don't like and maybe defend people you do, rather than try to accurately describe the situation.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

I think a comparison to intolerant religious thinking is more appropriate. The Nazis are too extreme. There was little well-meaning about them, and many on the woke side are well-meaning,.

It's probably not the case that Nazi supporters considered themselves to be ill-meaning at the time.

[Jolly]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

Why not call them mediaeval Roman Catholics? It makes as much sense. Plenty of groups have exhibited intolerance and a holier than though attitude through the years, but for some reason we always jump to Nazi.

Are you honestly saying the "good they've done for the world" / "bad they've done in the world" scorecard for Roman Catholics and Nazis is the same?

Are you honestly saying that Ontario liberals are closer to the Nazi scorecard than the medieval RC one?

The only reason I can think that you're using to use such a silly analogy is to score points against people you don't like and maybe defend people you do, rather than try to accurately describe the situation.

Consider the source.

Christianity is the debil. (Trivia points for the tv character who compared anything she didn't like to da debil.)

[Doctor Phibes]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

Why not call them mediaeval Roman Catholics? It makes as much sense. Plenty of groups have exhibited intolerance and a holier than though attitude through the years, but for some reason we always jump to Nazi.

Are you honestly saying the "good they've done for the world" / "bad they've done in the world" scorecard for Roman Catholics and Nazis is the same?

Are you honestly saying that Ontario liberals are closer to the Nazi scorecard than the medieval RC one?

The only reason I can think that you're using to use such a silly analogy is to score points against people you don't like and maybe defend people you do, rather than try to accurately describe the situation.

I'm not the one making ludicrous comparisons between Canadians and the Nazis, which was my original point. You can see how stupid my analogy is, but not the other one?

The attitudes of modern liberals are extremely similar to those of intolerant religious people.

[Copper]

There is not one universal evil nazi.

You really can't compare the nazis of 1920 with the nazis of 1939 and the nazis of 2023.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

Consider the source.

You started with the dumbass comparisons, not me.

And I pointedly said 'medieval' Christianity.

[Jolly]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

@Jolly said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

Consider the source.

You started with the dumbass comparisons, not me.

And I pointedly said 'medieval' Christianity.

Hey, I even helped you out!

[Doctor Phibes]

I have to admit I do find it quite funny that we can all see the silliness of comparisons between Ontario and Pope Innocent III, but not with Adolf Hitler.

[Jolly]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

I have to admit I do find it quite funny that we can all see the silliness of comparisons between Ontario and Pope Innocent III, but not with Adolf Hitler.

I think that's because Aqua may have a salient point.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

I have to admit I do find it quite funny that we can all see the silliness of comparisons between Ontario and Pope Innocent III, but not with Adolf Hitler.

What do you mean, "we can all see"? I didn't mention Hitler in any of my above responses.

I did describe where I think comparisons between Nazism and this kind of behavior exist, so instead of speaking for me maybe reread what I said to Renauda.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

What do you mean, "we can all see"? I didn't mention Hitler in any of my above responses.

And I didn't mention Pope Innocent III.

You did accuse me of disliking Catholics, however - so 10 demerit points to you! I never accused you of disliking Canadians, or for that matter Nazis.

[Jolly]

Perception is reality?

[Aqua Letifer]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

What do you mean, "we can all see"? I didn't mention Hitler in any of my above responses.

And I didn't mention Pope Innocent III.

Neither did I, so fuck this.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

Perception is reality?

It is what it is.

Viruses gonna virus.

Think outside the box.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

Neither did I, so fuck this.

lol

OK.

[Doctor Phibes]

Also, I think I should post this before anybody else does

Coincidence?

It is what it is.

[Renauda]

@Horace said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:

I think a comparison to intolerant religious thinking is more appropriate. The Nazis are too extreme. There was little well-meaning about them, and many on the woke side are well-meaning,.

It's probably not the case that Nazi supporters considered themselves to be ill-meaning at the time.

As did English Puritans believe they were doing God’s work in their day.

I think Phibe’s juxtaposition of the modern day Jacobinism, presently called wokism, with the religious intolerance of earlier times is quite appropriate. One of the tangible consequences of both is the emergence of a populist led cancel culture in society.

[Doctor Phibes]

A number of my ancestors were Methodists, so we didn't hate anybody, but a number of my older relatives did have a rather disapproving attitude to the consumption of alcoholic beverages, which I have endeavoured to redress.