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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #1

    https://www.billboard.com/music/chart-beat/charlie-brown-christmas-soundtrack-album-sales-chart-number-two-1235191283/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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      Aqua Letifer
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      #2

      Remind me again that it's only old fogies who think old music is better than new mu—oh wait no it's the entire music market!

      Please love yourself.

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        Who else actually buys music today?

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          Who else actually buys music today?

          Aqua LetiferA Offline
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          Aqua Letifer
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          #4

          @Mik said in Number 2:

          Who else actually buys music today?

          Exactly. Art ain't free.

          Please love yourself.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            Remind me again that it's only old fogies who think old music is better than new mu—oh wait no it's the entire music market!

            Doctor PhibesD Offline
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            Doctor Phibes
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            #5

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Number 2:

            Remind me again that it's only old fogies who think old music is better than new mu—oh wait no it's the entire music market!

            Pedantic mode on/

            TBH, I don't think the Vince Guaraldi popularity is really down to a scarcity of good contemporary jazz, which is what you really should compare it with if you were going to do an old-versus new comparison.

            The people buying this probably aren't listening to much other similar music - the Charlie Brown soundtrack is something that kind of stands outside pop music of any era.

            I imagine sales of colourful sweaters and Mariah Carey are probably through the roof at this point, too.

            I was only joking

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Number 2:

              Remind me again that it's only old fogies who think old music is better than new mu—oh wait no it's the entire music market!

              Pedantic mode on/

              TBH, I don't think the Vince Guaraldi popularity is really down to a scarcity of good contemporary jazz, which is what you really should compare it with if you were going to do an old-versus new comparison.

              The people buying this probably aren't listening to much other similar music - the Charlie Brown soundtrack is something that kind of stands outside pop music of any era.

              I imagine sales of colourful sweaters and Mariah Carey are probably through the roof at this point, too.

              Aqua LetiferA Offline
              Aqua LetiferA Offline
              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Number 2:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Number 2:

              Remind me again that it's only old fogies who think old music is better than new mu—oh wait no it's the entire music market!

              Pedantic mode on/

              TBH, I don't think the Vince Guaraldi popularity is really down to a scarcity of good contemporary jazz, which is what you really should compare it with if you were going to do an old-versus new comparison.

              The people buying this probably aren't listening to much other similar music - the Charlie Brown soundtrack is something that kind of stands outside pop music of any era.

              I imagine sales of colourful sweaters and Mariah Carey are probably through the roof at this point, too.

              You know music stuff. You play an instrument. You know what a hook, a solo, an improvisation and a bridge is. You know the difference between simple and complex harmonies.

              And so you can compare both popular and niche music of the past to popular and niche music of today and see that modern music has fewer live players, more programming, less vocal talent in favor of more autotune, and far fewer solos, bridges, improvs and complex harmonies in favor of short, simple songs that are all hooks. And that's when they can even be bothered to write anything original.

              Try to make an argument that modern music isn't crap using evidence more substantial than general hand-waving about old people and their silly beliefs about what they personally grew up with. It can't be done.

              Please love yourself.

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              • MikM Mik

                Who else actually buys music today?

                CopperC Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
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                @Mik said in Number 2:

                Who else actually buys music today?

                I do

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Number 2:

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Number 2:

                  Remind me again that it's only old fogies who think old music is better than new mu—oh wait no it's the entire music market!

                  Pedantic mode on/

                  TBH, I don't think the Vince Guaraldi popularity is really down to a scarcity of good contemporary jazz, which is what you really should compare it with if you were going to do an old-versus new comparison.

                  The people buying this probably aren't listening to much other similar music - the Charlie Brown soundtrack is something that kind of stands outside pop music of any era.

                  I imagine sales of colourful sweaters and Mariah Carey are probably through the roof at this point, too.

                  You know music stuff. You play an instrument. You know what a hook, a solo, an improvisation and a bridge is. You know the difference between simple and complex harmonies.

                  And so you can compare both popular and niche music of the past to popular and niche music of today and see that modern music has fewer live players, more programming, less vocal talent in favor of more autotune, and far fewer solos, bridges, improvs and complex harmonies in favor of short, simple songs that are all hooks. And that's when they can even be bothered to write anything original.

                  Try to make an argument that modern music isn't crap using evidence more substantial than general hand-waving about old people and their silly beliefs about what they personally grew up with. It can't be done.

                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Number 2:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Number 2:

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Number 2:

                  Remind me again that it's only old fogies who think old music is better than new mu—oh wait no it's the entire music market!

                  Pedantic mode on/

                  TBH, I don't think the Vince Guaraldi popularity is really down to a scarcity of good contemporary jazz, which is what you really should compare it with if you were going to do an old-versus new comparison.

                  The people buying this probably aren't listening to much other similar music - the Charlie Brown soundtrack is something that kind of stands outside pop music of any era.

                  I imagine sales of colourful sweaters and Mariah Carey are probably through the roof at this point, too.

                  You know music stuff. You play an instrument. You know what a hook, a solo, an improvisation and a bridge is. You know the difference between simple and complex harmonies.

                  And so you can compare both popular and niche music of the past to popular and niche music of today and see that modern music has fewer live players, more programming, less vocal talent in favor of more autotune, and far fewer solos, bridges, improvs and complex harmonies in favor of short, simple songs that are all hooks. And that's when they can even be bothered to write anything original.

                  Try to make an argument that modern music isn't crap using evidence more substantial than general hand-waving about old people and their silly beliefs about what they personally grew up with. It can't be done.

                  Lol. I was saying that and more back in 1980. All I meant was that comparing some rather inoffensive pop jazz piano with modern pop music isn’t really apples and oranges.

                  And contemporary jazz played today is every bit as complex as the stuff that was being done in the 60’s. There’s not as much of it, admittedly.

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Number 2:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Number 2:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Number 2:

                    Remind me again that it's only old fogies who think old music is better than new mu—oh wait no it's the entire music market!

                    Pedantic mode on/

                    TBH, I don't think the Vince Guaraldi popularity is really down to a scarcity of good contemporary jazz, which is what you really should compare it with if you were going to do an old-versus new comparison.

                    The people buying this probably aren't listening to much other similar music - the Charlie Brown soundtrack is something that kind of stands outside pop music of any era.

                    I imagine sales of colourful sweaters and Mariah Carey are probably through the roof at this point, too.

                    You know music stuff. You play an instrument. You know what a hook, a solo, an improvisation and a bridge is. You know the difference between simple and complex harmonies.

                    And so you can compare both popular and niche music of the past to popular and niche music of today and see that modern music has fewer live players, more programming, less vocal talent in favor of more autotune, and far fewer solos, bridges, improvs and complex harmonies in favor of short, simple songs that are all hooks. And that's when they can even be bothered to write anything original.

                    Try to make an argument that modern music isn't crap using evidence more substantial than general hand-waving about old people and their silly beliefs about what they personally grew up with. It can't be done.

                    Lol. I was saying that and more back in 1980. All I meant was that comparing some rather inoffensive pop jazz piano with modern pop music isn’t really apples and oranges.

                    And contemporary jazz played today is every bit as complex as the stuff that was being done in the 60’s. There’s not as much of it, admittedly.

                    Aqua LetiferA Offline
                    Aqua LetiferA Offline
                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Number 2:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Number 2:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Number 2:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Number 2:

                    Remind me again that it's only old fogies who think old music is better than new mu—oh wait no it's the entire music market!

                    Pedantic mode on/

                    TBH, I don't think the Vince Guaraldi popularity is really down to a scarcity of good contemporary jazz, which is what you really should compare it with if you were going to do an old-versus new comparison.

                    The people buying this probably aren't listening to much other similar music - the Charlie Brown soundtrack is something that kind of stands outside pop music of any era.

                    I imagine sales of colourful sweaters and Mariah Carey are probably through the roof at this point, too.

                    You know music stuff. You play an instrument. You know what a hook, a solo, an improvisation and a bridge is. You know the difference between simple and complex harmonies.

                    And so you can compare both popular and niche music of the past to popular and niche music of today and see that modern music has fewer live players, more programming, less vocal talent in favor of more autotune, and far fewer solos, bridges, improvs and complex harmonies in favor of short, simple songs that are all hooks. And that's when they can even be bothered to write anything original.

                    Try to make an argument that modern music isn't crap using evidence more substantial than general hand-waving about old people and their silly beliefs about what they personally grew up with. It can't be done.

                    There’s not as much of it, admittedly.

                    Yeah, I'd call that a problem. I'm not much into jazz but as a genre it's pretty important.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Number 2:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Number 2:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Number 2:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Number 2:

                      Remind me again that it's only old fogies who think old music is better than new mu—oh wait no it's the entire music market!

                      Pedantic mode on/

                      TBH, I don't think the Vince Guaraldi popularity is really down to a scarcity of good contemporary jazz, which is what you really should compare it with if you were going to do an old-versus new comparison.

                      The people buying this probably aren't listening to much other similar music - the Charlie Brown soundtrack is something that kind of stands outside pop music of any era.

                      I imagine sales of colourful sweaters and Mariah Carey are probably through the roof at this point, too.

                      You know music stuff. You play an instrument. You know what a hook, a solo, an improvisation and a bridge is. You know the difference between simple and complex harmonies.

                      And so you can compare both popular and niche music of the past to popular and niche music of today and see that modern music has fewer live players, more programming, less vocal talent in favor of more autotune, and far fewer solos, bridges, improvs and complex harmonies in favor of short, simple songs that are all hooks. And that's when they can even be bothered to write anything original.

                      Try to make an argument that modern music isn't crap using evidence more substantial than general hand-waving about old people and their silly beliefs about what they personally grew up with. It can't be done.

                      There’s not as much of it, admittedly.

                      Yeah, I'd call that a problem. I'm not much into jazz but as a genre it's pretty important.

                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
                      Doctor Phibes
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                      #10

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Number 2:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Number 2:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Number 2:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Number 2:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Number 2:

                      Remind me again that it's only old fogies who think old music is better than new mu—oh wait no it's the entire music market!

                      Pedantic mode on/

                      TBH, I don't think the Vince Guaraldi popularity is really down to a scarcity of good contemporary jazz, which is what you really should compare it with if you were going to do an old-versus new comparison.

                      The people buying this probably aren't listening to much other similar music - the Charlie Brown soundtrack is something that kind of stands outside pop music of any era.

                      I imagine sales of colourful sweaters and Mariah Carey are probably through the roof at this point, too.

                      You know music stuff. You play an instrument. You know what a hook, a solo, an improvisation and a bridge is. You know the difference between simple and complex harmonies.

                      And so you can compare both popular and niche music of the past to popular and niche music of today and see that modern music has fewer live players, more programming, less vocal talent in favor of more autotune, and far fewer solos, bridges, improvs and complex harmonies in favor of short, simple songs that are all hooks. And that's when they can even be bothered to write anything original.

                      Try to make an argument that modern music isn't crap using evidence more substantial than general hand-waving about old people and their silly beliefs about what they personally grew up with. It can't be done.

                      There’s not as much of it, admittedly.

                      Yeah, I'd call that a problem. I'm not much into jazz but as a genre it's pretty important.

                      It hit a bit of a dead end. Like modern classical music, the really innovative/avant garde stuff is frequently not much fun to listen to.

                      Then you’ve got people like Wynton Marsalis that think that electronic instruments and funky rhythms are an abomination from hell.

                      I was only joking

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