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    Mik
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    Is that really any different than what we did 1980-90 in Afghanistan? I suspect not.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      I any event we have been trying to make a real country out of that place for 19 years. Hasn't happened yet.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        Is that really any different than what we did 1980-90 in Afghanistan? I suspect not.

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        @Mik said in Bounties on American soldiers:

        Is that really any different than what we did 1980-90 in Afghanistan? I suspect not.

        Proxy wars were the thing during the Cold War, no?

        The soviets were behind the front lines in Vietnam.

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          Yep. and we were supplying the Taliban Mujahedeen with all the Stingers they needed to down Soviet helicopters.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Loki
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            Are we doing anything analogous to Russia in Syria?

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              I doubt it.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                I could not read the NYT piece, but what I read in the Guardian makes it clear that this is all from yet more 'unnamed sources who were briefed on the situation'. Honestly it doesn't make much sense for Russia to do this, now that we have reached a deal on withdrawl. They stand to lose more than to gain. The fact that the Democrats are screaming about it further leads me to believe it might not be true.

                In any event, we have a pandemic, big economic problems and rioting internally. Even if it were true I would not see it as the highest priority.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  I could not read the NYT piece, but what I read in the Guardian makes it clear that this is all from yet more 'unnamed sources who were briefed on the situation'. Honestly it doesn't make much sense for Russia to do this, now that we have reached a deal on withdrawl. They stand to lose more than to gain. The fact that the Democrats are screaming about it further leads me to believe it might not be true.

                  In any event, we have a pandemic, big economic problems and rioting internally. Even if it were true I would not see it as the highest priority.

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                  @Mik said in Bounties on American soldiers:

                  I could not read the NYT piece, but what I read in the Guardian makes it clear that this is all from yet more 'unnamed sources who were briefed on the situation'. Honestly it doesn't make much sense for Russia to do this, now that we have reached a deal on withdrawl. They stand to lose more than to gain. The fact that the Democrats are screaming about it further leads me to believe it might not be true.

                  In any event, we have a pandemic, big economic problems and rioting internally. Even if it were true I would not see it as the highest priority.

                  If it’s true it’s likely tit for tat but NYT curiosity ends where their thesis breaks down.

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                    xenon
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                    WH statement on this:

                    The United States receives thousands of intelligence reports a day, and they are subject to strict scrutiny. While the White House does not routinely comment on alleged intelligence or internal deliberations, the CIA director, national security adviser, and the chief of staff can all confirm that neither the president nor the vice president were briefed on the alleged Russian bounty intelligence.

                    This does not speak to the merit of the alleged intelligence but to the inaccuracy of The New York Times story erroneously suggesting that President Trump was briefed on this matter

                    They’re saying that Trump wasn’t briefed, but don’t call the story directly into question.

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                      WH statement on this:

                      The United States receives thousands of intelligence reports a day, and they are subject to strict scrutiny. While the White House does not routinely comment on alleged intelligence or internal deliberations, the CIA director, national security adviser, and the chief of staff can all confirm that neither the president nor the vice president were briefed on the alleged Russian bounty intelligence.

                      This does not speak to the merit of the alleged intelligence but to the inaccuracy of The New York Times story erroneously suggesting that President Trump was briefed on this matter

                      They’re saying that Trump wasn’t briefed, but don’t call the story directly into question.

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                      @xenon said in Bounties on American soldiers:

                      WH statement on this:

                      The United States receives thousands of intelligence reports a day, and they are subject to strict scrutiny. While the White House does not routinely comment on alleged intelligence or internal deliberations, the CIA director, national security adviser, and the chief of staff can all confirm that neither the president nor the vice president were briefed on the alleged Russian bounty intelligence.

                      This does not speak to the merit of the alleged intelligence but to the inaccuracy of The New York Times story erroneously suggesting that President Trump was briefed on this matter

                      They’re saying that Trump wasn’t briefed, but don’t call the story directly into question.

                      So you don’t think that the Russians are playing tit for tat that this is intentional escalation of tensions? Where does your curiosity end? I thought you were super interested in foreign policy?

                      How many Russian soldiers died in Syria as a direct or indir3ct result of the Us and US money?

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                        @xenon said in Bounties on American soldiers:

                        WH statement on this:

                        The United States receives thousands of intelligence reports a day, and they are subject to strict scrutiny. While the White House does not routinely comment on alleged intelligence or internal deliberations, the CIA director, national security adviser, and the chief of staff can all confirm that neither the president nor the vice president were briefed on the alleged Russian bounty intelligence.

                        This does not speak to the merit of the alleged intelligence but to the inaccuracy of The New York Times story erroneously suggesting that President Trump was briefed on this matter

                        They’re saying that Trump wasn’t briefed, but don’t call the story directly into question.

                        So you don’t think that the Russians are playing tit for tat that this is intentional escalation of tensions? Where does your curiosity end? I thought you were super interested in foreign policy?

                        How many Russian soldiers died in Syria as a direct or indir3ct result of the Us and US money?

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                        xenon
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                        @Loki said in Bounties on American soldiers:

                        @xenon said in Bounties on American soldiers:

                        WH statement on this:

                        The United States receives thousands of intelligence reports a day, and they are subject to strict scrutiny. While the White House does not routinely comment on alleged intelligence or internal deliberations, the CIA director, national security adviser, and the chief of staff can all confirm that neither the president nor the vice president were briefed on the alleged Russian bounty intelligence.

                        This does not speak to the merit of the alleged intelligence but to the inaccuracy of The New York Times story erroneously suggesting that President Trump was briefed on this matter

                        They’re saying that Trump wasn’t briefed, but don’t call the story directly into question.

                        So you don’t think that the Russians are playing tit for tat that this is intentional escalation of tensions? Where does your curiosity end? I thought you were super interested in foreign policy?

                        How many Russian soldiers died in Syria as a direct or indir3ct result of the Us and US money?

                        I don’t think I’ve offered an opinion on any of this.

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                          @Loki said in Bounties on American soldiers:

                          @xenon said in Bounties on American soldiers:

                          WH statement on this:

                          The United States receives thousands of intelligence reports a day, and they are subject to strict scrutiny. While the White House does not routinely comment on alleged intelligence or internal deliberations, the CIA director, national security adviser, and the chief of staff can all confirm that neither the president nor the vice president were briefed on the alleged Russian bounty intelligence.

                          This does not speak to the merit of the alleged intelligence but to the inaccuracy of The New York Times story erroneously suggesting that President Trump was briefed on this matter

                          They’re saying that Trump wasn’t briefed, but don’t call the story directly into question.

                          So you don’t think that the Russians are playing tit for tat that this is intentional escalation of tensions? Where does your curiosity end? I thought you were super interested in foreign policy?

                          How many Russian soldiers died in Syria as a direct or indir3ct result of the Us and US money?

                          I don’t think I’ve offered an opinion on any of this.

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                          Loki
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                          @xenon said in Bounties on American soldiers:

                          @Loki said in Bounties on American soldiers:

                          @xenon said in Bounties on American soldiers:

                          WH statement on this:

                          The United States receives thousands of intelligence reports a day, and they are subject to strict scrutiny. While the White House does not routinely comment on alleged intelligence or internal deliberations, the CIA director, national security adviser, and the chief of staff can all confirm that neither the president nor the vice president were briefed on the alleged Russian bounty intelligence.

                          This does not speak to the merit of the alleged intelligence but to the inaccuracy of The New York Times story erroneously suggesting that President Trump was briefed on this matter

                          They’re saying that Trump wasn’t briefed, but don’t call the story directly into question.

                          So you don’t think that the Russians are playing tit for tat that this is intentional escalation of tensions? Where does your curiosity end? I thought you were super interested in foreign policy?

                          How many Russian soldiers died in Syria as a direct or indir3ct result of the Us and US money?

                          I don’t think I’ve offered my opinion on any of this.

                          Just an innocent link. Haha.

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                            @xenon said in Bounties on American soldiers:

                            @Loki said in Bounties on American soldiers:

                            @xenon said in Bounties on American soldiers:

                            WH statement on this:

                            The United States receives thousands of intelligence reports a day, and they are subject to strict scrutiny. While the White House does not routinely comment on alleged intelligence or internal deliberations, the CIA director, national security adviser, and the chief of staff can all confirm that neither the president nor the vice president were briefed on the alleged Russian bounty intelligence.

                            This does not speak to the merit of the alleged intelligence but to the inaccuracy of The New York Times story erroneously suggesting that President Trump was briefed on this matter

                            They’re saying that Trump wasn’t briefed, but don’t call the story directly into question.

                            So you don’t think that the Russians are playing tit for tat that this is intentional escalation of tensions? Where does your curiosity end? I thought you were super interested in foreign policy?

                            How many Russian soldiers died in Syria as a direct or indir3ct result of the Us and US money?

                            I don’t think I’ve offered my opinion on any of this.

                            Just an innocent link. Haha.

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                            xenon
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                            @Loki You’re commenting on your own assumptions.

                            The point of any thread is to hear other’s opinions - else you can just read the news on your own.

                            I haven’t offered an opinion on this one (I don’t have a fully formed one yet)

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                              @xenon said in Bounties on American soldiers:

                              WH statement on this:

                              The United States receives thousands of intelligence reports a day, and they are subject to strict scrutiny. While the White House does not routinely comment on alleged intelligence or internal deliberations, the CIA director, national security adviser, and the chief of staff can all confirm that neither the president nor the vice president were briefed on the alleged Russian bounty intelligence.

                              This does not speak to the merit of the alleged intelligence but to the inaccuracy of The New York Times story erroneously suggesting that President Trump was briefed on this matter

                              They’re saying that Trump wasn’t briefed, but don’t call the story directly into question.

                              So you don’t think that the Russians are playing tit for tat that this is intentional escalation of tensions? Where does your curiosity end? I thought you were super interested in foreign policy?

                              How many Russian soldiers died in Syria as a direct or indir3ct result of the Us and US money?

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                              xenon
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                              @Loki said in Bounties on American soldiers:

                              @xenon said in Bounties on American soldiers:

                              WH statement on this:

                              The United States receives thousands of intelligence reports a day, and they are subject to strict scrutiny. While the White House does not routinely comment on alleged intelligence or internal deliberations, the CIA director, national security adviser, and the chief of staff can all confirm that neither the president nor the vice president were briefed on the alleged Russian bounty intelligence.

                              This does not speak to the merit of the alleged intelligence but to the inaccuracy of The New York Times story erroneously suggesting that President Trump was briefed on this matter

                              They’re saying that Trump wasn’t briefed, but don’t call the story directly into question.

                              So you don’t think that the Russians are playing tit for tat that this is intentional escalation of tensions? Where does your curiosity end? I thought you were super interested in foreign policy?

                              How many Russian soldiers died in Syria as a direct or indir3ct result of the Us and US money?

                              In terms of my opinion on Syria. The US and Russia were both obv against ISIS - but aligned with different factions on the ground. Your point is that some of factions we backed were anti-Russian.

                              If that’s what we’re talking about that feels different than directly targeting Russians.

                              An imperfect analogy would be - any scale bombing campaign is going to invariably kill innocent people, but that’s different than targeting innocent people.

                              All that said - the facts on this situation are still unclear.

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