China: The crematoriums are "packed"
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- I’m going to pause for a moment—am I saying this will be the start of another “Thermonuclear bad” #COVID wave worldwide? Not necessarily via virus directly— but the global economic fallout from China’s new mega tsunami wave will be ugly. You can ignore my words at own peril
I thought most of us had become vaccinated against hysteria at this point. What is this guy on about? How does one make life decisions based on whether they are, or are not, ignoring this guy's words?
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The seven day average for Daily Deaths (202) appears to be the lowest it has been since they started counting for the US
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@George-K said in The crematoriums are "packed":
Read the article, and then look at the tweets:
My God...
Uhm, greater than 60% of China’s population IS more than 10% of the world’s. Plus, do you really expect us to believe that China didn’t already have over 60% infection rate?
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@George-K said in The crematoriums are "packed":
Read the article, and then look at the tweets:
My God...
It’s not exactly The Brains Trust in there, is it?
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A bit of extreme talk in the video, but I do think it may be somewhat bad as the virus spends through China
- older population
- lower vaccination rate (especially about older people)
- poor vaccinations (only homemade ones. Chinese government refused to accept any from overseas)
- overall, mid level health system not really equipped to handle Covid
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A bit of extreme talk in the video, but I do think it may be somewhat bad as the virus spends through China
- older population
- lower vaccination rate (especially about older people)
- poor vaccinations (only homemade ones. Chinese government refused to accept any from overseas)
- overall, mid level health system not really equipped to handle Covid
@taiwan_girl said in The crematoriums are "packed":
A bit of extreme talk in the video, but I do think it may be somewhat bad as the virus spends through China
- older population
- lower vaccination rate (especially about older people)
- poor vaccinations (only homemade ones. Chinese government refused to accept any from overseas)
- overall, mid level health system not really equipped to handle Covid
It seems to me that the Chinese government has handled this extremely badly, combining an unwillingness to acknowledge the superiority of western vaccines, and an absolutely brutal approach to implementing lockdowns, which really only postpones the inevitable at this point.
The insecurity of the CCC is clear, and this won't have helped their popularity much.
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A bit of extreme talk in the video, but I do think it may be somewhat bad as the virus spends through China
- older population
- lower vaccination rate (especially about older people)
- poor vaccinations (only homemade ones. Chinese government refused to accept any from overseas)
- overall, mid level health system not really equipped to handle Covid
@taiwan_girl said in The crematoriums are "packed":
A bit of extreme talk in the video, but I do think it may be somewhat bad as the virus spends through China
- older population
- lower vaccination rate (especially about older people)
- poor vaccinations (only homemade ones. Chinese government refused to accept any from overseas)
- overall, mid level health system not really equipped to handle Covid
Seems correct on all points.
@Doctor-Phibes said:
The insecurity of the CCC is clear,
And this.
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It's about to get worse:
The infections in Dadi Village, a corn farming community tucked between verdant hills in China’s remote southwest, started in early December when a handful of young people returned from jobs in big cities.
The nearest hospital was an hour away, and few could afford the $7 bus fare there. The village clinic is not equipped with oxygen tanks or even an oximeter to detect if someone’s blood is dangerously deprived of oxygen. It quickly ran out of its stockpile of five boxes of fever medicine, so officials told sick residents to stay home and drink lots of water.
For three years, the villagers had avoided the worst of the coronavirus pandemic. But late last year, Covid infections surged across China, forcing the government to abandon its stringent, yet ultimately futile, policy of mass lockdowns. It was only a matter of time before the virus wound its way out of the cities and arrived in poorer rural areas like Dadi, in Guizhou Province, with the barest of medical care.
China is bracing for an onslaught of infections in its fragile countryside as millions of migrant workers crowd onto trains and buses to leave factory towns, construction sites and cities, to return to their rural homes for the Lunar New Year holiday. The travel period, which begins Saturday and lasts 40 days, is expected to overwhelm the rural health care system only weeks after hospitals in wealthy cities like Beijing and Shanghai were buckled by the outbreak.
“What we are most worried about is that after three years, everyone … can finally go home for the new year to visit relatives,” Jiao Yahui, an official with China’s National Health Commission, told state media. With the populous countryside’s limited medical resources, she said, “how to deal with the peak of infection in vast rural areas has become a huge challenge.”One such county hospital in Henan was so inundated with patients from the surrounding countryside that it had to ration fever-reducing medicine to patients registering a body temperature of 101.3 degrees or higher. Officials at another county hospital in central Anhui Province said they had received so many patients that the facility would soon run out of critical care beds and ventilators.
In China, few things highlight the inequities between urban and rural life as starkly as medical care. Despite ongoing health reforms, access to everything from ventilators to fever medicine remains scant for the 500 million people who live in the countryside. Staffing in rural health facilities is also woefully low. There are 1.3 million physicians and 1.8 million nurses in rural China — roughly less than half as many per 1,000 people than there are in the cities, government statistics show.
Rural communities are largely served by grassroots health workers who have only minimal medical training — less than 1 percent hold university degrees, and just over half have graduated from vocational high schools. They’re often called upon only when needed.
“Village doctor is only a side job. The doctors need to farm as well,” said Hunter Ge, a migrant worker describing the level of care in Maxiaoji, his village of about 700 people in Henan that’s been hit with a massive virus outbreak. -
It's about to get worse:
The infections in Dadi Village, a corn farming community tucked between verdant hills in China’s remote southwest, started in early December when a handful of young people returned from jobs in big cities.
The nearest hospital was an hour away, and few could afford the $7 bus fare there. The village clinic is not equipped with oxygen tanks or even an oximeter to detect if someone’s blood is dangerously deprived of oxygen. It quickly ran out of its stockpile of five boxes of fever medicine, so officials told sick residents to stay home and drink lots of water.
For three years, the villagers had avoided the worst of the coronavirus pandemic. But late last year, Covid infections surged across China, forcing the government to abandon its stringent, yet ultimately futile, policy of mass lockdowns. It was only a matter of time before the virus wound its way out of the cities and arrived in poorer rural areas like Dadi, in Guizhou Province, with the barest of medical care.
China is bracing for an onslaught of infections in its fragile countryside as millions of migrant workers crowd onto trains and buses to leave factory towns, construction sites and cities, to return to their rural homes for the Lunar New Year holiday. The travel period, which begins Saturday and lasts 40 days, is expected to overwhelm the rural health care system only weeks after hospitals in wealthy cities like Beijing and Shanghai were buckled by the outbreak.
“What we are most worried about is that after three years, everyone … can finally go home for the new year to visit relatives,” Jiao Yahui, an official with China’s National Health Commission, told state media. With the populous countryside’s limited medical resources, she said, “how to deal with the peak of infection in vast rural areas has become a huge challenge.”One such county hospital in Henan was so inundated with patients from the surrounding countryside that it had to ration fever-reducing medicine to patients registering a body temperature of 101.3 degrees or higher. Officials at another county hospital in central Anhui Province said they had received so many patients that the facility would soon run out of critical care beds and ventilators.
In China, few things highlight the inequities between urban and rural life as starkly as medical care. Despite ongoing health reforms, access to everything from ventilators to fever medicine remains scant for the 500 million people who live in the countryside. Staffing in rural health facilities is also woefully low. There are 1.3 million physicians and 1.8 million nurses in rural China — roughly less than half as many per 1,000 people than there are in the cities, government statistics show.
Rural communities are largely served by grassroots health workers who have only minimal medical training — less than 1 percent hold university degrees, and just over half have graduated from vocational high schools. They’re often called upon only when needed.
“Village doctor is only a side job. The doctors need to farm as well,” said Hunter Ge, a migrant worker describing the level of care in Maxiaoji, his village of about 700 people in Henan that’s been hit with a massive virus outbreak.@George-K And golden week is coming up, where there are millions and millions millions of people return to their home village for New Year.
Going to be crazy.
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3.7 million cases a day by Jan. 13
China is facing a first peak of new COVID infections on Jan. 13, when it will record 3.7 million in a day, according to Airfinity, a U.K.-based predictive health analytics data company.
The company is expecting Chinese fatalities to rise about 10 days after that to about 25,000 a day, bumping the total since a surge of cases started in December to 584,000. Airfinity is forecasting 1.7 million COVID deaths across China by the end of April.
The forecasts are based on data from China’s regional provinces, before recent changes on how infections are reported, combined with case growth rates from other former zero-COVID countries such as Japan and Hong Kong when they first lifted restrictions, the company said.
The Chinese government stopped reporting asymptomatic COVID cases in December, when it ended mass testing and dropped restrictions on movement that had been among the world’s strictest.
The government also changed the way it records COVID deaths to include only those who die from respiratory failure or pneumonia after testing positive.
But even before those changes, China’s official COVID numbers were notoriously hard to pin down. The numbers it has provided to the Johns Hopkins COVID tracker, for example, show — some three years into the pandemic — just 4.7 million cases and 17,736 fatalities.
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@George-K said in China: The crematoriums are "packed":
expecting Chinese fatalities to rise about 10 days after that to about 25,000 a day,
The numbers it has provided to the Johns Hopkins COVID tracker, for example, show — some three years into the pandemic — just 4.7 million cases and 17,736 fatalities.
From this web site: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
total death count: 5,272
Chinese math
