Trump clarifies his platform
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Trump is a much higher level person than Obama. It makes sense that fewer people are capable of meeting his expectations.
@Horace said in Trump clarifies his platform:
Trump is a much higher level person than Obama. It makes sense that fewer people are capable of meeting his expectations.
Indeed, it was euphemistically stated now and then in a previous incarnation of this den of iniquity, that Obama was a mere "two bit thug". Trump, it seems, is something quite other.
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@Horace said in Trump clarifies his platform:
If you think the phrase is nice, just wait till you try it.
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@Larry I would be happy too. I am not "marry" to one side. However, when someone bases their "reputation" on the fact that they only hire good people, and "trumpet" (no pun intended 5555) the fact that they are such a good judge of people, etc., they SHOULD be called out on it, whether or not it is Democrat, Republic, Communist, Fascist, etc etc
I do stand by my point that a number of high level respected people very close to teh President (does not matter if I agree with them or not - for example, i previously did not like Mr. Bolton and I still dont. I did not like Mr. Tillerson, and I still dont) who left/fired from the administration have had quite a bit of negative things to say about President Trump. At some point, as the English saying goes - if it walk like a duck, sound like a duck, etc etc
I do not remember the same number of high level people questioning the competency of President Obama. AGAIN, I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING IF THAT WERE THE CASE.
@taiwan_girl said in Trump clarifies his platform:
@Larry I would be happy too. I am not "marry" to one side. However, when someone bases their "reputation" on the fact that they only hire good people, and "trumpet" (no pun intended 5555) the fact that they are such a good judge of people, etc., they SHOULD be called out on it, whether or not it is Democrat, Republic, Communist, Fascist, etc etc
I do stand by my point that a number of high level respected people very close to teh President (does not matter if I agree with them or not - for example, i previously did not like Mr. Bolton and I still dont. I did not like Mr. Tillerson, and I still dont) who left/fired from the administration have had quite a bit of negative things to say about President Trump. At some point, as the English saying goes - if it walk like a duck, sound like a duck, etc etc
I do not remember the same number of high level people questioning the competency of President Obama. AGAIN, I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING IF THAT WERE THE CASE.
200 judges.
And you can bet your sweet ass ain't nobody hired that many in 40 years.
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@Larry I would be happy too. I am not "marry" to one side. However, when someone bases their "reputation" on the fact that they only hire good people, and "trumpet" (no pun intended 5555) the fact that they are such a good judge of people, etc., they SHOULD be called out on it, whether or not it is Democrat, Republic, Communist, Fascist, etc etc
I do stand by my point that a number of high level respected people very close to teh President (does not matter if I agree with them or not - for example, i previously did not like Mr. Bolton and I still dont. I did not like Mr. Tillerson, and I still dont) who left/fired from the administration have had quite a bit of negative things to say about President Trump. At some point, as the English saying goes - if it walk like a duck, sound like a duck, etc etc
I do not remember the same number of high level people questioning the competency of President Obama. AGAIN, I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING IF THAT WERE THE CASE.
@taiwan_girl said in Trump clarifies his platform:
@Larry I would be happy too. I am not "marry" to one side. However, when someone bases their "reputation" on the fact that they only hire good people, and "trumpet" (no pun intended 5555) the fact that they are such a good judge of people, etc., they SHOULD be called out on it, whether or not it is Democrat, Republic, Communist, Fascist, etc etc
I do stand by my point that a number of high level respected people very close to teh President (does not matter if I agree with them or not - for example, i previously did not like Mr. Bolton and I still dont. I did not like Mr. Tillerson, and I still dont) who left/fired from the administration have had quite a bit of negative things to say about President Trump. At some point, as the English saying goes - if it walk like a duck, sound like a duck, etc etc
I do not remember the same number of high level people questioning the competency of President Obama. AGAIN, I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING IF THAT WERE THE CASE.
Then hold onto your hat, because if you base your view on what you say you do, you're going to have to change your opinion...
It is well known and well documented that military leaders did not like Obama AT ALL. Many of them spoke out about it. In fact, Obama was detested by the majority of the military, from the top all the way down to the bottom.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/11/obama-vs-the-generals-099379Here's the difference:
generals spoke out against Obama. Obama then fired him and replaced him with a yes man. The news media was silent.
Trump fires an Obama yes man, he speaks out against Trump. The press talks about it for months, adding all the negative spin they can to the story.
Some people pay attention to what's happening. Some people form their opinions based on what they hear out of the news media. -
@taiwan_girl said in Trump clarifies his platform:
@Larry I would be happy too. I am not "marry" to one side. However, when someone bases their "reputation" on the fact that they only hire good people, and "trumpet" (no pun intended 5555) the fact that they are such a good judge of people, etc., they SHOULD be called out on it, whether or not it is Democrat, Republic, Communist, Fascist, etc etc
I do stand by my point that a number of high level respected people very close to teh President (does not matter if I agree with them or not - for example, i previously did not like Mr. Bolton and I still dont. I did not like Mr. Tillerson, and I still dont) who left/fired from the administration have had quite a bit of negative things to say about President Trump. At some point, as the English saying goes - if it walk like a duck, sound like a duck, etc etc
I do not remember the same number of high level people questioning the competency of President Obama. AGAIN, I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING IF THAT WERE THE CASE.
Then hold onto your hat, because if you base your view on what you say you do, you're going to have to change your opinion...
It is well known and well documented that military leaders did not like Obama AT ALL. Many of them spoke out about it. In fact, Obama was detested by the majority of the military, from the top all the way down to the bottom.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/11/obama-vs-the-generals-099379Here's the difference:
generals spoke out against Obama. Obama then fired him and replaced him with a yes man. The news media was silent.
Trump fires an Obama yes man, he speaks out against Trump. The press talks about it for months, adding all the negative spin they can to the story.
Some people pay attention to what's happening. Some people form their opinions based on what they hear out of the news media.@Larry said in Trump clarifies his platform:
Trump fires an Obama yes man, he speaks out against Trump.
John Kelly
Rex Tillerson
John Bolton
HR McMaster
Gen. Mattis
Jerome Powell
etcPlease explain how the above were Obama "yes men".
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump clarifies his platform:
I have to say, I'd rather be a drunken Brit than a Teetotal Yank any fucking day of the week.
We gave the world Keith Richards. You supplied Donny Fucking Osmond. And yes, fuck you.
If not for Churchill’s swooning of Roosevelt you might have said that in German.
@Loki said in Trump clarifies his platform:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump clarifies his platform:
I have to say, I'd rather be a drunken Brit than a Teetotal Yank any fucking day of the week.
We gave the world Keith Richards. You supplied Donny Fucking Osmond. And yes, fuck you.
If not for Churchill’s swooning of Roosevelt you might have said that in German
I doubt it. To undertake a seaborne invasion, jerry would have needed command of the sea and air superiority over the English Channel. He had neither - the Royal Navy effectively bottled up the German fleet in the Baltic thus depriving the Nazis command of the sea and, the Battle of Britain resulted in the Luftwaffe's failure to gain air superiority over the Channel. In any event, by end of September 1940 Hitler had lost interest in taking Britain and started to look eastward towards the USSR. Any chance of ever invading Britain and holding it was lost as of 22 June 1941 when the Nazis attacked the Soviet Union.
Elbows up!
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I'm only going to bother with one, since I don't think you'd change your mind if these men all stopped by your house and told you you were wrong:
John Kelly was/is an honorable man with a terrific resume. He was in total agreement with Trump, and worked diligently to put Trumps agenda in place. But Kelly couldn't handle the position of chief of staff. The power went to his head. He was caught threatening a staffer while he was firing the staffer in the situation room. When asked if Trump knew about the firing, Kelly said "the entire White House works for me, not the president".
At that point, even though he was extremely supportive of Trumps presidency, and in spite of his stellar military career, he had to go. It shouldnt come as any surprise that a man drunk on power getting canned because of it would spew sour grapes. Unless ones opinion of Kelly is shaped by how the media spun things.
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I'm only going to bother with one, since I don't think you'd change your mind if these men all stopped by your house and told you you were wrong:
John Kelly was/is an honorable man with a terrific resume. He was in total agreement with Trump, and worked diligently to put Trumps agenda in place. But Kelly couldn't handle the position of chief of staff. The power went to his head. He was caught threatening a staffer while he was firing the staffer in the situation room. When asked if Trump knew about the firing, Kelly said "the entire White House works for me, not the president".
At that point, even though he was extremely supportive of Trumps presidency, and in spite of his stellar military career, he had to go. It shouldnt come as any surprise that a man drunk on power getting canned because of it would spew sour grapes. Unless ones opinion of Kelly is shaped by how the media spun things.
@Larry said in Trump clarifies his platform:
The power went to his head. He was caught threatening a staffer while he was firing the staffer in the situation room. When asked if Trump knew about the firing, Kelly said "the entire White House works for me, not the president".
Interesting - what situation was that? Did that lead to his firing?
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@Loki said in Trump clarifies his platform:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump clarifies his platform:
I have to say, I'd rather be a drunken Brit than a Teetotal Yank any fucking day of the week.
We gave the world Keith Richards. You supplied Donny Fucking Osmond. And yes, fuck you.
If not for Churchill’s swooning of Roosevelt you might have said that in German
I doubt it. To undertake a seaborne invasion, jerry would have needed command of the sea and air superiority over the English Channel. He had neither - the Royal Navy effectively bottled up the German fleet in the Baltic thus depriving the Nazis command of the sea and, the Battle of Britain resulted in the Luftwaffe's failure to gain air superiority over the Channel. In any event, by end of September 1940 Hitler had lost interest in taking Britain and started to look eastward towards the USSR. Any chance of ever invading Britain and holding it was lost as of 22 June 1941 when the Nazis attacked the Soviet Union.
@Renauda said in Trump clarifies his platform:
@Loki said in Trump clarifies his platform:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump clarifies his platform:
I have to say, I'd rather be a drunken Brit than a Teetotal Yank any fucking day of the week.
We gave the world Keith Richards. You supplied Donny Fucking Osmond. And yes, fuck you.
If not for Churchill’s swooning of Roosevelt you might have said that in German
I doubt it. To undertake a seaborne invasion, jerry would have needed command of the sea and air superiority over the English Channel. He had neither - the Royal Navy effectively bottled up the German fleet in the Baltic thus depriving the Nazis command of the sea and, the Battle of Britain resulted in the Luftwaffe's failure to gain air superiority over the Channel. In any event, by end of September 1940 Hitler had lost interest in taking Britain and started to look eastward towards the USSR. Any chance of ever invading Britain and holding it was lost as of 22 June 1941 when the Nazis attacked the Soviet Union.
But could Hitler have taken the U.S.S.R., It the Soviets had not had allied help? Over 20% of Russian fighters were made in America or Britain. Many of her bombers were made in America. 100% of her seaplanes were made in America. One third of the Red Army's trucks were American. 7000 of her tanks were British or American.
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@Larry said in Trump clarifies his platform:
The power went to his head. He was caught threatening a staffer while he was firing the staffer in the situation room. When asked if Trump knew about the firing, Kelly said "the entire White House works for me, not the president".
Interesting - what situation was that? Did that lead to his firing?
@xenon said in Trump clarifies his platform:
@Larry said in Trump clarifies his platform:
The power went to his head. He was caught threatening a staffer while he was firing the staffer in the situation room. When asked if Trump knew about the firing, Kelly said "the entire White House works for me, not the president".
Interesting - what situation was that? Did that lead to his firing?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kelly
"Early into his tenure, media outlets such as The New York Times, The Washington Post and FiveThirtyEight speculated that Kelly would bring moderation and discipline to the White House.[44][45][46] In August 2017, early into Kelly's tenure, the Washington Post wrote that Kelly had "left no discernible imprint on the White House's philosophy" and that it was unclear if he would bring calm and rigor to the White House.[47] In a lengthy article on Kelly's tenure, the New York Times in October 2017 wrote that "for all of the talk of Mr. Kelly as a moderating force and the so-called grown-up in the room, it turns out that he harbors strong feelings on patriotism, national security and immigration that mirror the hard-line views of his outspoken boss"
"Firing of Omarosa Manigault Edit
In August 2018, a tape was released of Kelly firing White House staffer Omarosa Manigault in the Situation Room, and allegedly threatening her legally as well as reputationally, stating to the employee: ""I'd like to see this be a friendly departure," Kelly says on the tape. "There are pretty significant legal issues that we hope don't develop into something that, that'll make it ugly for you."[79][80] When questioned whether the President knew of the firing, Kelly replied: "The [White House] staff, and everybody on the staff, works for me and not the president."[79] Kelly's use of the Situation Room to isolate and fire the employee also led to controversy about a potential misuse of the high-security facility by Kelly, as well as the fact he was unknowingly recorded within it" -
@Renauda said in Trump clarifies his platform:
@Loki said in Trump clarifies his platform:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump clarifies his platform:
I have to say, I'd rather be a drunken Brit than a Teetotal Yank any fucking day of the week.
We gave the world Keith Richards. You supplied Donny Fucking Osmond. And yes, fuck you.
If not for Churchill’s swooning of Roosevelt you might have said that in German
I doubt it. To undertake a seaborne invasion, jerry would have needed command of the sea and air superiority over the English Channel. He had neither - the Royal Navy effectively bottled up the German fleet in the Baltic thus depriving the Nazis command of the sea and, the Battle of Britain resulted in the Luftwaffe's failure to gain air superiority over the Channel. In any event, by end of September 1940 Hitler had lost interest in taking Britain and started to look eastward towards the USSR. Any chance of ever invading Britain and holding it was lost as of 22 June 1941 when the Nazis attacked the Soviet Union.
But could Hitler have taken the U.S.S.R., It the Soviets had not had allied help? Over 20% of Russian fighters were made in America or Britain. Many of her bombers were made in America. 100% of her seaplanes were made in America. One third of the Red Army's trucks were American. 7000 of her tanks were British or American.
A topic for a thread of its own.
Historiography by David Glantz and more recently, David Stahel and Stephen Kotkin all maintain the USSR would have eventually defeated Germany on its own. No question however that Lend Lease equipment was crucial in enabling the Soviets to gain and maintain logistical and mobile superiority over the Germans. The USSR simply out produced and ultimately outsoldiered Germany by sheer force of numbers.
Elbows up!
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In any event, there's more chance of America winning the cricket world cup than of most Brits learning another language. I suspect the level of coercion needed would have been beyond even Hitler's Gestapo.
So, as somebody once wrote to me in an email, vwalla!
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Someone who doesn’t answer a question. I’m fucking shocked I tell you. That’s it I’m done with Trump.
@Loki said in Trump clarifies his platform:
Someone who doesn’t answer a question. I’m fucking shocked I tell you.
There's an art to not answering questions. Some are so good at not answering questions that nobody realizes until much later that they didn't answer.
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A topic for a thread of its own.
Historiography by David Glantz and more recently, David Stahel and Stephen Kotkin all maintain the USSR would have eventually defeated Germany on its own. No question however that Lend Lease equipment was crucial in enabling the Soviets to gain and maintain logistical and mobile superiority over the Germans. The USSR simply out produced and ultimately outsoldiered Germany by sheer force of numbers.
@Renauda said in Trump clarifies his platform:
A topic for a thread of its own.
Historiography by David Glantz and more recently, David Stahel and Stephen Kotkin all maintain the USSR would have eventually defeated Germany on its own. No question however that Lend Lease equipment was crucial in enabling the Soviets to gain and maintain logistical and mobile superiority over the Germans. The USSR simply out produced and ultimately outsoldiered Germany by sheer force of numbers.
Another thing that must be considered, especially in the early stages, is the quality of what was left of the Red Army officer corps and the tight control of the political officers.
