Funny, I haven't seen this before...
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wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 15:28 last edited by
@Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:
We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.
We're talking multiple people.
Same thing. I can rewrite as:
Group A breaks into a local 7-11, goes into the back office and takes personal items from the office desk.
Group B breaks into the White House, goes into the oval office and takes personal items from the office desk
100% guarantee that Group B will get a harder sentence.
But again, I agree with Jon. I dont think that the people who broke into the Capital got too hard a sentence, I think that the people who did the damage to the federal buildings got too light a sentence.
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@Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:
We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.
We're talking multiple people.
Same thing. I can rewrite as:
Group A breaks into a local 7-11, goes into the back office and takes personal items from the office desk.
Group B breaks into the White House, goes into the oval office and takes personal items from the office desk
100% guarantee that Group B will get a harder sentence.
But again, I agree with Jon. I dont think that the people who broke into the Capital got too hard a sentence, I think that the people who did the damage to the federal buildings got too light a sentence.
wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 15:58 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:
@Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:
We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.
We're talking multiple people.
Same thing. I can rewrite as:
Group A breaks into a local 7-11, goes into the back office and takes personal items from the office desk.
Group B breaks into the White House, goes into the oval office and takes personal items from the office desk
100% guarantee that Group B will get a harder sentence.
But again, I agree with Jon. I dont think that the people who broke into the Capital got too hard a sentence, I think that the people who did the damage to the federal buildings got too light a sentence.
A distinction without a difference. In both cases what Jolly and other sane people are complaining about, is the politically motivated unequal 'justice'.
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@taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:
@Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:
We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.
We're talking multiple people.
Same thing. I can rewrite as:
Group A breaks into a local 7-11, goes into the back office and takes personal items from the office desk.
Group B breaks into the White House, goes into the oval office and takes personal items from the office desk
100% guarantee that Group B will get a harder sentence.
But again, I agree with Jon. I dont think that the people who broke into the Capital got too hard a sentence, I think that the people who did the damage to the federal buildings got too light a sentence.
A distinction without a difference. In both cases what Jolly and other sane people are complaining about, is the politically motivated unequal 'justice'.
wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 16:34 last edited by@Horace I dont disagree with you and Jolly. The other pretestors should have gotten a harder sentence, for sure.
But, I am not sure that I agree that all those judges in the other cases were politically motivated to give a lighter sentence.
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@Horace I dont disagree with you and Jolly. The other pretestors should have gotten a harder sentence, for sure.
But, I am not sure that I agree that all those judges in the other cases were politically motivated to give a lighter sentence.
wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 17:19 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:
@Horace I dont disagree with you and Jolly. The other pretestors should have gotten a harder sentence, for sure.
But, I am not sure that I agree that all those judges in the other cases were politically motivated to give a lighter sentence.
Again a distinction without a difference. An unequal presence or absence of bias is a problem regardless of whether one labels either side as an absence or a presence.
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@Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:
We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.
We're talking multiple people.
Same thing. I can rewrite as:
Group A breaks into a local 7-11, goes into the back office and takes personal items from the office desk.
Group B breaks into the White House, goes into the oval office and takes personal items from the office desk
100% guarantee that Group B will get a harder sentence.
But again, I agree with Jon. I dont think that the people who broke into the Capital got too hard a sentence, I think that the people who did the damage to the federal buildings got too light a sentence.
wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 19:34 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:
@Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:
We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.
We're talking multiple people.
Same thing. I can rewrite as:
Group A breaks into a local 7-11, goes into the back office and takes personal items from the office desk.
Group B breaks into the White House, goes into the oval office and takes personal items from the office desk
100% guarantee that Group B will get a harder sentence.
But again, I agree with Jon. I dont think that the people who broke into the Capital got too hard a sentence, I think that the people who did the damage to the federal buildings got too light a sentence.
Rewrite this sugar...
- 700 police injured.
- At least 11 people killed.
- $1.2B damage
Vs.
- 140 police injured (I think that's inflated, but let's go with it).
- 1 person killed (unarmed, on the other side of a wall)
- $1.5M damage
Yes, I can certainly see how those figures are equal..
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@taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:
@Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:
We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.
We're talking multiple people.
Same thing. I can rewrite as:
Group A breaks into a local 7-11, goes into the back office and takes personal items from the office desk.
Group B breaks into the White House, goes into the oval office and takes personal items from the office desk
100% guarantee that Group B will get a harder sentence.
But again, I agree with Jon. I dont think that the people who broke into the Capital got too hard a sentence, I think that the people who did the damage to the federal buildings got too light a sentence.
Rewrite this sugar...
- 700 police injured.
- At least 11 people killed.
- $1.2B damage
Vs.
- 140 police injured (I think that's inflated, but let's go with it).
- 1 person killed (unarmed, on the other side of a wall)
- $1.5M damage
Yes, I can certainly see how those figures are equal..
wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 20:48 last edited by jon-nyc@Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:
@taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:
- 700 police injured.
- At least 11 people killed.
- $1.2B damage
Vs.
- 140 police injured (I think that's inflated, but let's go with it).
- 1 person killed (unarmed, violently breaking through a door towards where the congressmen were)
- $1.5M damage
Yes, I can certainly see how those figures are equal..
NNTTM.
But keep in mind the macro picture doesn't really matter for any one individual's criminal proceeding, it's about what they themselves did.
And the fact that they did this at the Capitol threatening elected officials actually does matter to individual criminal proceedings.
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wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 21:06 last edited by
Don't forget the selfies
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wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 21:12 last edited by
It's a shame you chaps don't play more soccer. That tends to be a good place where yobs can congregate and fight one another. Political thuggery is so gauche.
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@Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:
@taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:
- 700 police injured.
- At least 11 people killed.
- $1.2B damage
Vs.
- 140 police injured (I think that's inflated, but let's go with it).
- 1 person killed (unarmed, violently breaking through a door towards where the congressmen were)
- $1.5M damage
Yes, I can certainly see how those figures are equal..
NNTTM.
But keep in mind the macro picture doesn't really matter for any one individual's criminal proceeding, it's about what they themselves did.
And the fact that they did this at the Capitol threatening elected officials actually does matter to individual criminal proceedings.
wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 21:57 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:
But keep in mind the macro picture doesn't really matter for any one individual's criminal proceeding, it's about what they themselves did.
That depends on which bias is being claimed.
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@Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:
@taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:
- 700 police injured.
- At least 11 people killed.
- $1.2B damage
Vs.
- 140 police injured (I think that's inflated, but let's go with it).
- 1 person killed (unarmed, violently breaking through a door towards where the congressmen were)
- $1.5M damage
Yes, I can certainly see how those figures are equal..
NNTTM.
But keep in mind the macro picture doesn't really matter for any one individual's criminal proceeding, it's about what they themselves did.
And the fact that they did this at the Capitol threatening elected officials actually does matter to individual criminal proceedings.
wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 23:28 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:
@Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:
@taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:
- 700 police injured.
- At least 11 people killed.
- $1.2B damage
Vs.
- 140 police injured (I think that's inflated, but let's go with it).
- 1 person killed (unarmed, violently breaking through a door towards where the congressmen were)
- $1.5M damage
Yes, I can certainly see how those figures are equal..
NNTTM.
But keep in mind the macro picture doesn't really matter for any one individual's criminal proceeding, it's about what they themselves did.
And the fact that they did this at the Capitol threatening elected officials actually does matter to individual criminal proceedings.
English Common Law vs. Napoleonic Code. If we were under NC, that argument would work. English Common Law, not so much.