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  • MikM Offline
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    What kind of ghoul would even undertake such a study?

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      SCIENCEY!

      Did anyone bother to remind these Einsteins that Older Americans are more often registered Republicans than Democrats? And that COVID is overwhelmingly deadly to the elderly, whether they have received the Prophylactic Therapeutics or not? In fact, the majority of deaths over the last year have been among elderly that have indeed received the Pfizer and Moderna Prophylactic Therapeutics?

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        SCIENCEY!

        Did anyone bother to remind these Einsteins that Older Americans are more often registered Republicans than Democrats? And that COVID is overwhelmingly deadly to the elderly, whether they have received the Prophylactic Therapeutics or not? In fact, the majority of deaths over the last year have been among elderly that have indeed received the Pfizer and Moderna Prophylactic Therapeutics?

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        @LuFins-Dad said in More Republicans than Democrats die from COVID-19:

        SCIENCEY!

        Did anyone bother to remind these Einsteins that Older Americans are more often registered Republicans than Democrats? And that COVID is overwhelmingly deadly to the elderly, whether they have received the Prophylactic Therapeutics or not? In fact, the majority of deaths over the last year have been among elderly that have indeed received the Pfizer and Moderna Prophylactic Therapeutics?

        Science!

        Silence, Denier!

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          SCIENCEY!

          Did anyone bother to remind these Einsteins that Older Americans are more often registered Republicans than Democrats? And that COVID is overwhelmingly deadly to the elderly, whether they have received the Prophylactic Therapeutics or not? In fact, the majority of deaths over the last year have been among elderly that have indeed received the Pfizer and Moderna Prophylactic Therapeutics?

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          @LuFins-Dad Zero chance they didn’t control for age. Like none whatsoever

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            our study is based on data from the only states where we could obtain voter registration information (Florida and Ohio); hence, our results may not generalize to other states

            #7 and #20 on the old age list

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_median_age

            ME, NH, VT, WV have the oldest mean ages, maybe the cold helps, FL comes next.

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            • MikM Mik

              What kind of ghoul would even undertake such a study?

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              @Mik said in More Republicans than Democrats die from COVID-19:

              What kind of ghoul would even undertake such a study?

              NATIONAL BUREAU OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH (NBER)

              Jacob Wallace
              Yale School of Public Health
              Department of Health Policy and Management

              Jason L. Schwartz
              Yale School of Public Health

              Paul Goldsmith-Pinkham
              Yale School of Management and NBER

              Seriously, the authors and their affiliations are listed in the paper, page 2.

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              • MikM Offline
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                That doesn't affect my point one iota.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  You would not need to scratch the surface of such credentialed public health academics too deeply, before you hit a clear political slant to the course of their studies. Mostly this guidance comes in the form of a mutually shared understanding of what are acceptable questions and what are acceptable answers. You literally couldn't do that job without an acceptance of those rules.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    @Mik said in More Republicans than Democrats die from COVID-19:

                    What kind of ghoul would even undertake such a study?

                    NATIONAL BUREAU OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH (NBER)

                    Jacob Wallace
                    Yale School of Public Health
                    Department of Health Policy and Management

                    Jason L. Schwartz
                    Yale School of Public Health

                    Paul Goldsmith-Pinkham
                    Yale School of Management and NBER

                    Seriously, the authors and their affiliations are listed in the paper, page 2.

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                    @Axtremus said in More Republicans than Democrats die from COVID-19:

                    @Mik said in More Republicans than Democrats die from COVID-19:

                    What kind of ghoul would even undertake such a study?

                    NATIONAL BUREAU OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH (NBER)

                    Jacob Wallace
                    Yale School of Public Health
                    Department of Health Policy and Management

                    Jason L. Schwartz
                    Yale School of Public Health

                    Paul Goldsmith-Pinkham
                    Yale School of Management and NBER

                    Seriously, the authors and their affiliations are listed in the paper, page 2.

                    That still doesn’t answer Mik’s question. What type of Ghouls are Messers Wallace, Schwartz, and Goldsmith-Pinkham (guy with hyphenated last name :eyeroll:)? Their names and qualifications don’t really answer that question.

                    For instance: Mik may have also asked “What type of idiot would post this study?” And I may have answered “Axtremus”, but that doesn’t address the main point of Mik’s question, what type of idiot is Axtremus? Is he an imbecile, an ignoramus, a fool, a simpleton, dullard, or nitwit? That’s what we need to find out.

                    I hope that helps!

                    The Brad

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      I did not need to ask the second question. The first remains valid.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        Honestly such questions are well within the purview of public health.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Honestly such questions are well within the purview of public health.

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                          @jon-nyc said in More Republicans than Democrats die from COVID-19:

                          Honestly such questions are well within the purview of public health.

                          Yes. And so are myriad other questions that don't get asked and answered because the answers would be politically inconvenient.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Nonsense. The political affiliation of fatalities has no medical value whatsoever

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Public Health /= Medical.

                              Social influences on acceptance of vaccines or NPIs or any intervention is very much a worthy topic and it predates covid.

                              The public health people deal with the health of populations not individuals.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                                @jon-nyc makes good points here. The study of a population, and the diseases they get versus another population is a worthwhile investigation.

                                Look at the studies comparing the entrance of hypertension and obesity in black versus non-black populations.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  The colleagues of these academics were coming out with courageous stands about the public health concerns of racism overriding the public health concerns of large BLM gatherings. That is the larger context in which all of this science is practiced, and there isn't a single person listed on that paper who wouldn't sacrifice their science to that context. As it happens, this was a paper that answered a question that they were allowed to think clearly about. Good for them.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    @Axtremus said in More Republicans than Democrats die from COVID-19:

                                    @Mik said in More Republicans than Democrats die from COVID-19:

                                    What kind of ghoul would even undertake such a study?

                                    NATIONAL BUREAU OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH (NBER)

                                    Jacob Wallace
                                    Yale School of Public Health
                                    Department of Health Policy and Management

                                    Jason L. Schwartz
                                    Yale School of Public Health

                                    Paul Goldsmith-Pinkham
                                    Yale School of Management and NBER

                                    Seriously, the authors and their affiliations are listed in the paper, page 2.

                                    That still doesn’t answer Mik’s question. What type of Ghouls are Messers Wallace, Schwartz, and Goldsmith-Pinkham (guy with hyphenated last name :eyeroll:)? Their names and qualifications don’t really answer that question.

                                    For instance: Mik may have also asked “What type of idiot would post this study?” And I may have answered “Axtremus”, but that doesn’t address the main point of Mik’s question, what type of idiot is Axtremus? Is he an imbecile, an ignoramus, a fool, a simpleton, dullard, or nitwit? That’s what we need to find out.

                                    I hope that helps!

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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in More Republicans than Democrats die from COVID-19:

                                    @Axtremus said in More Republicans than Democrats die from COVID-19:

                                    @Mik said in More Republicans than Democrats die from COVID-19:

                                    What kind of ghoul would even undertake such a study?

                                    NATIONAL BUREAU OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH (NBER)

                                    Jacob Wallace
                                    Yale School of Public Health
                                    Department of Health Policy and Management

                                    Jason L. Schwartz
                                    Yale School of Public Health

                                    Paul Goldsmith-Pinkham
                                    Yale School of Management and NBER

                                    Seriously, the authors and their affiliations are listed in the paper, page 2.

                                    That still doesn’t answer Mik’s question.

                                    Sure it does. Public health researchers and economists study this type of questions. Given the names and affiliations of the authors, you can also look further into their body of work to get a better sense of what they have been studying/researching, how this work fits in the context of what they have been studying/researching, why they choose to study research this question now. (If you’re the “follow the money” type, you can lookup who may be funding/commissioning the study/research. But in this case you wouldn’t need to because the authors disclosed the source of funding right on the first page.)

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                                      What might be more fun, is to follow the blacks

                                      South has more. Big cities have more. Did COVID have a racial disparity in mortality and if so, why?

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        What might be more fun, is to follow the blacks

                                        South has more. Big cities have more. Did COVID have a racial disparity in mortality and if so, why?

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                                        @Jolly said in More Republicans than Democrats die from COVID-19:

                                        Did COVID have a racial disparity in mortality and if so, why?

                                        I believe that's been studied, and the answer is yes.

                                        Why? Because diabetes, obesity, poor nutrition, education racism.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          @Jolly said in More Republicans than Democrats die from COVID-19:

                                          Did COVID have a racial disparity in mortality and if so, why?

                                          I believe that's been studied, and the answer is yes.

                                          Why? Because diabetes, obesity, poor nutrition, education racism.

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                                          @George-K said in More Republicans than Democrats die from COVID-19:

                                          @Jolly said in More Republicans than Democrats die from COVID-19:

                                          Did COVID have a racial disparity in mortality and if so, why?

                                          I believe that's been studied, and the answer is yes.

                                          Why? Because diabetes, obesity, poor nutrition, education racism.

                                          A lot of those red states have hefty black populations. Does the mortality disparity skew results?

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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