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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/nobody-is-talking-about-the-record-high-number-of-americans-on-psychiatric-drugs-infants

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • CopperC Offline
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      It is big business

      My sister the psych nurse works from home. I'm not really familiar with it, but I think a good part of the job is managing medication.

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        Jolly
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        What came first, the chicken or the egg?

        Are more people actually psyche cases or are we engaged in another form of societal mass hysteria? Or, is Big Pharma successfully persuading us (women, mostly) that we're all nuts?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          What came first, the chicken or the egg?

          Are more people actually psyche cases or are we engaged in another form of societal mass hysteria? Or, is Big Pharma successfully persuading us (women, mostly) that we're all nuts?

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          Aqua Letifer
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          @Jolly said in 80,000,000:

          What came first, the chicken or the egg?

          Are more people actually psyche cases or are we engaged in another form of societal mass hysteria? Or, is Big Pharma successfully persuading us (women, mostly) that we're all nuts?

          Sorry, no. It's good and bad both.

          Some stuff is definitely over-prescribed, but this isn't Shutter Island. Many, many people have benefitted greatly from these drugs. They've been able to keep family relationships, hold down jobs and not kill themselves.

          The rampant over-prescribing we can fix. Other problems, the drugs seriously help with.

          Please love yourself.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @Jolly said in 80,000,000:

            What came first, the chicken or the egg?

            Are more people actually psyche cases or are we engaged in another form of societal mass hysteria? Or, is Big Pharma successfully persuading us (women, mostly) that we're all nuts?

            Sorry, no. It's good and bad both.

            Some stuff is definitely over-prescribed, but this isn't Shutter Island. Many, many people have benefitted greatly from these drugs. They've been able to keep family relationships, hold down jobs and not kill themselves.

            The rampant over-prescribing we can fix. Other problems, the drugs seriously help with.

            JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            @Aqua-Letifer said in 80,000,000:

            @Jolly said in 80,000,000:

            What came first, the chicken or the egg?

            Are more people actually psyche cases or are we engaged in another form of societal mass hysteria? Or, is Big Pharma successfully persuading us (women, mostly) that we're all nuts?

            Sorry, no. It's good and bad both.

            Some stuff is definitely over-prescribed, but this isn't Shutter Island. Many, many people have benefitted greatly from these drugs. They've been able to keep family relationships, hold down jobs and not kill themselves.

            The rampant over-prescribing we can fix. Other problems, the drugs seriously help with.

            Depends on expectations and lifestyle. Call me old fashioned, but a slower pace coupled with some fresh air could work wonders.

            I also think that if societal roles were a bit more defined, people wouldn't be as wonky, either.

            Lastly, religion can be a powerful influence for piece of mind. A little Jesus would do a lot of people a lot of good.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @Aqua-Letifer said in 80,000,000:

              @Jolly said in 80,000,000:

              What came first, the chicken or the egg?

              Are more people actually psyche cases or are we engaged in another form of societal mass hysteria? Or, is Big Pharma successfully persuading us (women, mostly) that we're all nuts?

              Sorry, no. It's good and bad both.

              Some stuff is definitely over-prescribed, but this isn't Shutter Island. Many, many people have benefitted greatly from these drugs. They've been able to keep family relationships, hold down jobs and not kill themselves.

              The rampant over-prescribing we can fix. Other problems, the drugs seriously help with.

              Depends on expectations and lifestyle. Call me old fashioned, but a slower pace coupled with some fresh air could work wonders.

              I also think that if societal roles were a bit more defined, people wouldn't be as wonky, either.

              Lastly, religion can be a powerful influence for piece of mind. A little Jesus would do a lot of people a lot of good.

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              Aqua Letifer
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              @Jolly said in 80,000,000:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in 80,000,000:

              @Jolly said in 80,000,000:

              What came first, the chicken or the egg?

              Are more people actually psyche cases or are we engaged in another form of societal mass hysteria? Or, is Big Pharma successfully persuading us (women, mostly) that we're all nuts?

              Sorry, no. It's good and bad both.

              Some stuff is definitely over-prescribed, but this isn't Shutter Island. Many, many people have benefitted greatly from these drugs. They've been able to keep family relationships, hold down jobs and not kill themselves.

              The rampant over-prescribing we can fix. Other problems, the drugs seriously help with.

              Depends on expectations and lifestyle. Call me old fashioned, but a slower pace coupled with some fresh air could work wonders.

              Yeah that'll totally keep the schizophrenics from cutting nonexistent transmitters out of their necks.

              I'm just saying those kinds of people exist. And there are more of them than we thought and they should be on something because it'll seriously help.

              I also don't think they're the majority, and yes, drugs are way over-prescribed. Your solutions are good, so here are some other ones you didn't mention: Traditional Eastern Medicine.

              That's right I fucking said it. 😄 I'm not talking about woo. A lot of Eastern Medicine focuses on mild to moderate solutions rather than the more serious stuff like surgery or synthetic drugs.

              Drinking tea regularly—the proper stuff, gung fu brewing, the whole bullshit—brought my blood pressure down to 120/80, helps me sleep, and helps me with work because it's a massive caffeine+theanine hit. (Still helps me sleep a great deal. No idea why.) Gaba oolong has been shown in early studies to help kids with autism regulate their mood—so much so the parents in the study kept making it for their kids even after the study concluded. I tried it myself. Works.

              Meditation works, too. And no, I don't mean woo there, either. When you practice any kind of Qi Gong stance, all you're doing is learning how to straighten out and expand your spinal cord like you do asleep, but while standing up. Doing this requires you to keep trying to do two seemingly contradictory things at once: focus on getting the stance right to expand your spine, and relax.

              There are two outcomes to this: physically, it feels great after about 20 minutes. Mentally, you've been more present in those 20 minutes than any other part of the day because your damn phone was put away and you're noticing and responding instead of thinking. (Bike riding through city traffic is very similar.) You're right here, right now as Jesus Jones sang about. 😄 It's not a pill but it helps in a very noticeable way.

              Please love yourself.

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                Jolly
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                Meditation and prayer kinda do the same thing physically, although I think prayer can invoke a sense of well-being that lasts longer.

                As for tea brewing...Tea has medicinal properties, and the art and ritual of Eastern culture tea has a slow-down effect of its own.

                You're never going to manage the hard-core psychos. Transmitters in the neck is mild, wait until you meet a gal that likes to bite off penises for kicks. 😱 But most of the people taking all the psychotropic drugs simply do not need them. Many of those that do, would function better in controlled environments.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Meditation and prayer kinda do the same thing physically, although I think prayer can invoke a sense of well-being that lasts longer.

                  As for tea brewing...Tea has medicinal properties, and the art and ritual of Eastern culture tea has a slow-down effect of its own.

                  You're never going to manage the hard-core psychos. Transmitters in the neck is mild, wait until you meet a gal that likes to bite off penises for kicks. 😱 But most of the people taking all the psychotropic drugs simply do not need them. Many of those that do, would function better in controlled environments.

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                  @Jolly said in 80,000,000:

                  Meditation and prayer kinda do the same thing physically, although I think prayer can invoke a sense of well-being that lasts longer.

                  Well, the kind of meditation I'm talking about is sorta spiritual in the "birds & trees" sense, but it's mostly mental/physical and not really religious. Gotta go somewhere else for that.

                  As for tea brewing...Tea has medicinal properties, and the art and ritual of Eastern culture tea has a slow-down effect of its own.

                  Kinda makes you think twice about "don't talk to me until I've had my coffee." Maybe let people have their freaking rituals already. We've already done away with most of the others, which was a mistake.

                  You're never going to manage the hard-core psychos. Transmitters in the neck is mild, wait until you meet a gal that likes to bite off penises for kicks. 😱 But most of the people taking all the psychotropic drugs simply do not need them. Many of those that do, would function better in controlled environments.

                  Sadly, that's what better diagnoses should've led to. Understanding what you have going on should lead to understanding what you need to do to keep things on the rails. But nope, for many docs and patients "understanding" means knowing which pills to be on. Better living through chemistry or bust.

                  Please love yourself.

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                    Wrong way to live.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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