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  • jon-nycJ Online
    jon-nycJ Online
    jon-nyc
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    #1

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    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • HoraceH Online
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      Horace
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      #2

      Here's 100 year old public intellectual Charlie Munger's take:

      98-year old billionaire Charlie Munger, a long time critic of crypto, called digital currencies a combination of delusion and fraud in the wake of the blowup of exchange FTX.

      “You are seeing a lot of delusion," Munger, vice chairman of Berkshire Hathaway (NYSE:BRK.B), said in a CNBC interview. "Partly fraud and partly delusion. That’s a bad combination."

      Bahamas-headquartered FTX filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy on November 11 after traders rushed to withdraw billions of dollars from the platform in the wake of its multi-billion dollar shortfall.

      “This is a very, very bad thing," Munger said. "The country did not need a currency that was good for kidnappers. There are people who think they’ve got to be on every deal that’s hot. I think that’s totally crazy. They don’t care whether it’s child prostitution or bitcoin.”

      The once multibillion dollar exchange is under investigation by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, Commodity Futures Trading Commission, and the Justice Department.

      “Good ideas, carried to wretched excess, become bad ideas,” Munger told CNBC. “Nobody’s gonna say I got some s*** that I want to sell you. They say – it’s blockchain!”

      Education is extremely important.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        #3

        Charlie ever make any money?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • jon-nycJ Online
          jon-nycJ Online
          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            #5

            Make the Dems give the money back. 🤑

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nyc
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              #6

              Everyone he donated money to could be subject to clawback litigation, just like what happened with Madoff. Of course litigants will choose entities with resources to pay back. The remaining assets of his PAC - if there are any - would be subject to clawback, but the money the PAC already spent on behalf of candidates is gone and unrecoverable.

              Where this will really matter is with his charitable giving. It won't be very entertaining to watch legit charities being sued, but it's going to happen.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nyc
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                Wow. Read the thread.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • MikM Away
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                  Mik
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                  Jesus. What did he think he was running, a bodega?

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Make the Dems give the money back. 🤑

                    IvorythumperI Offline
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                    Ivorythumper
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                    #9

                    @Jolly that would be our money, dude.

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                    • IvorythumperI Offline
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                      Ivorythumper
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                      I heard they’d approve or reject corporate matters with emojis….

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                      • IvorythumperI Ivorythumper

                        @Jolly that would be our money, dude.

                        jon-nycJ Online
                        jon-nycJ Online
                        jon-nyc
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                        #11

                        @Ivorythumper said in SBF/FTX:

                        @Jolly that would be our money, dude.

                        You had money in FTX?

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @Ivorythumper said in SBF/FTX:

                          @Jolly that would be our money, dude.

                          You had money in FTX?

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                          Ivorythumper
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                          @jon-nyc no, I misinterpreted Jolly’s comment.

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                          • IvorythumperI Ivorythumper

                            @jon-nyc no, I misinterpreted Jolly’s comment.

                            jon-nycJ Online
                            jon-nycJ Online
                            jon-nyc
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                            #13

                            @Ivorythumper whew!

                            I didn’t take you for a crypto bro. Lol

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              George K
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                              https://finance.yahoo.com/news/justin-bieber-bought-bored-ape-190922945.html

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                #15

                                I still don’t understand any of this.

                                It sounds like maybe I’m not alone

                                I was only joking

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @Ivorythumper whew!

                                  I didn’t take you for a crypto bro. Lol

                                  IvorythumperI Offline
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                                  Ivorythumper
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                                  #16

                                  @jon-nyc said in SBF/FTX:

                                  @Ivorythumper whew!

                                  I didn’t take you for a crypto bro. Lol

                                  We can’t in the house due to MS’s work restrictions.

                                  Good thing— I started seriously thinking about it exactly 1 year ago!

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                                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    I sent that last twitter thread to a okd Credit Suisse buddy who later worked in crypto.

                                    His reply:

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                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      Yeah, just recently a Sequoia guy said it has done "careful due diligence" on FTX and "there's nothing much we could have done any differently."

                                      https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/18/vc-firm-sequoia-capitals-doug-leone-on-the-fallout-from-ftx-collapse.html

                                      SoftBank also invested in FTX but it’s the VC that has also lost a ton of money in WeWork, so I suppose it doesn’t quite qualify as “proper investor” as much as Sequoia.

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                                      • jon-nycJ Online
                                        jon-nycJ Online
                                        jon-nyc
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                                        Another friend, who's had some dealings with SBF, told me that they paid employees and contractors into their FTX accounts, meaning they're all creditors too.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • HoraceH Online
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                                          Horace
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                                          If the company had its own boutique crypto currency which was valued at the most recent transaction price, which in turn was whatever SBF wanted it to be, then I suppose the bubble pop makes sense. But that would be the pop of a bubble that wasn’t inflated with real money to begin with. My question is where did all the real money go? I mean other to Democrats, as SBF tried to climb socially through the high status political ranks of the left.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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