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SBF/FTX

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #3

    Charlie ever make any money?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      jon-nyc
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      #4

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #5

        Make the Dems give the money back. 🤑

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
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          #6

          Everyone he donated money to could be subject to clawback litigation, just like what happened with Madoff. Of course litigants will choose entities with resources to pay back. The remaining assets of his PAC - if there are any - would be subject to clawback, but the money the PAC already spent on behalf of candidates is gone and unrecoverable.

          Where this will really matter is with his charitable giving. It won't be very entertaining to watch legit charities being sued, but it's going to happen.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            #7

            Wow. Read the thread.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • MikM Offline
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              Jesus. What did he think he was running, a bodega?

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Make the Dems give the money back. 🤑

                IvorythumperI Offline
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                Ivorythumper
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                #9

                @Jolly that would be our money, dude.

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                • IvorythumperI Offline
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                  Ivorythumper
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                  #10

                  I heard they’d approve or reject corporate matters with emojis….

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                  • IvorythumperI Ivorythumper

                    @Jolly that would be our money, dude.

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #11

                    @Ivorythumper said in SBF/FTX:

                    @Jolly that would be our money, dude.

                    You had money in FTX?

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      @Ivorythumper said in SBF/FTX:

                      @Jolly that would be our money, dude.

                      You had money in FTX?

                      IvorythumperI Offline
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                      Ivorythumper
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                      #12

                      @jon-nyc no, I misinterpreted Jolly’s comment.

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                      • IvorythumperI Ivorythumper

                        @jon-nyc no, I misinterpreted Jolly’s comment.

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                        jon-nyc
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                        #13

                        @Ivorythumper whew!

                        I didn’t take you for a crypto bro. Lol

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          #14

                          https://finance.yahoo.com/news/justin-bieber-bought-bored-ape-190922945.html

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            #15

                            I still don’t understand any of this.

                            It sounds like maybe I’m not alone

                            I was only joking

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              @Ivorythumper whew!

                              I didn’t take you for a crypto bro. Lol

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                              Ivorythumper
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                              #16

                              @jon-nyc said in SBF/FTX:

                              @Ivorythumper whew!

                              I didn’t take you for a crypto bro. Lol

                              We can’t in the house due to MS’s work restrictions.

                              Good thing— I started seriously thinking about it exactly 1 year ago!

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                                jon-nyc
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                                #17

                                I sent that last twitter thread to a okd Credit Suisse buddy who later worked in crypto.

                                His reply:

                                DCCE2843-52B5-4812-8394-BC4612663D7C.jpeg

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  Yeah, just recently a Sequoia guy said it has done "careful due diligence" on FTX and "there's nothing much we could have done any differently."

                                  https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/18/vc-firm-sequoia-capitals-doug-leone-on-the-fallout-from-ftx-collapse.html

                                  SoftBank also invested in FTX but it’s the VC that has also lost a ton of money in WeWork, so I suppose it doesn’t quite qualify as “proper investor” as much as Sequoia.

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    Another friend, who's had some dealings with SBF, told me that they paid employees and contractors into their FTX accounts, meaning they're all creditors too.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      If the company had its own boutique crypto currency which was valued at the most recent transaction price, which in turn was whatever SBF wanted it to be, then I suppose the bubble pop makes sense. But that would be the pop of a bubble that wasn’t inflated with real money to begin with. My question is where did all the real money go? I mean other to Democrats, as SBF tried to climb socially through the high status political ranks of the left.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        If the company had its own boutique crypto currency which was valued at the most recent transaction price, which in turn was whatever SBF wanted it to be, then I suppose the bubble pop makes sense. But that would be the pop of a bubble that wasn’t inflated with real money to begin with. My question is where did all the real money go? I mean other to Democrats, as SBF tried to climb socially through the high status political ranks of the left.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #21

                                        @Horace The immediate answer is Alameda but it's still unclear what they were doing with it.

                                        Also it's unclear when the shady stuff (using customer money) started. Did they do that from the get-go? Or was it an act of desperation over the summer when crypto started to go south that they hoped would be temporary?

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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