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The Postmortem Continues

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #1

    A decent piece...

    https://thefederalist.com/2022/11/14/republican-leaders-have-a-choice-roll-back-early-voting-and-mail-in-ballots-or-learn-to-take-advantage-of-them/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      The real postmortem they need is to figure out how to tack to the center and govern for the benefit of all Americans instead of obsessing over "owning the libs." The GOP's loss is not a matter of voting machination but a lack of palatable (or even just coherent) policies.

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        The real postmortem they need is to figure out how to tack to the center and govern for the benefit of all Americans instead of obsessing over "owning the libs." The GOP's loss is not a matter of voting machination but a lack of palatable (or even just coherent) policies.

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        @Axtremus said in The Postmortem Continues:

        The GOP's loss is not a matter of voting machination but a lack of palatable (or even just coherent) policies.

        This. ☝

        As I said in another forum thread, if the Republic Party continues to blame everyone but themself for the current election and continues to live in the past, they are doomed to repeat their mistakes.

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Lady, it's not the Republic Party.

          And their opposition continually tries to move the center ever Leftward, to socialism and what I think is the destruction of the country.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            Lady, it's not the Republic Party.

            And their opposition continually tries to move the center ever Leftward, to socialism and what I think is the destruction of the country.

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            #5

            @Jolly said in The Postmortem Continues:

            Lady, it's not the Republic Party.

            And their opposition continually tries to move the center ever Leftward, to socialism and what I think is the destruction of the country.

            Sorry, I disagree. I think that this election will move the Republics back towards the center. To me, it is obvious that the US public (as a whole) did not like the extreme positions taken by some of the candidates put up by the party.

            The same holds true with the Democrat Party. If it (continues to) move to the extreme left, the public will reject it and the party will have to move back more towards the center.

            Many of the non-local elections come down to the 30-40% of people in the middle.

            In very general terms, 35% will vote for the party, regardless of who the candidate is, just because they have an R or a D by their name. It is the remaining 30-40% who will say, "hmm, this candidate from this party is too much to this side. I cant support him." Next election, they may say the same thing about the other party.

            From a paper I have read, this middle % of voters is currently the US suburban voter. Rural areas trend R, cities trend D. The suburbs and semi-rural areas are the "swing" voters.

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            • MikM Offline
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              As long as we have the House all will be well.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                #7

                What’s ironic is the GOP used to be pretty good with mail in ballots which, prior to covid, favored their side (because seniors).

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  @Jolly said in The Postmortem Continues:

                  Lady, it's not the Republic Party.

                  And their opposition continually tries to move the center ever Leftward, to socialism and what I think is the destruction of the country.

                  Sorry, I disagree. I think that this election will move the Republics back towards the center. To me, it is obvious that the US public (as a whole) did not like the extreme positions taken by some of the candidates put up by the party.

                  The same holds true with the Democrat Party. If it (continues to) move to the extreme left, the public will reject it and the party will have to move back more towards the center.

                  Many of the non-local elections come down to the 30-40% of people in the middle.

                  In very general terms, 35% will vote for the party, regardless of who the candidate is, just because they have an R or a D by their name. It is the remaining 30-40% who will say, "hmm, this candidate from this party is too much to this side. I cant support him." Next election, they may say the same thing about the other party.

                  From a paper I have read, this middle % of voters is currently the US suburban voter. Rural areas trend R, cities trend D. The suburbs and semi-rural areas are the "swing" voters.

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by Jolly
                  #8

                  @taiwan_girl said in The Postmortem Continues:

                  @Jolly said in The Postmortem Continues:

                  Lady, it's not the Republic Party.

                  And their opposition continually tries to move the center ever Leftward, to socialism and what I think is the destruction of the country.

                  Sorry, I disagree. I think that this election will move the Republics back towards the center. To me, it is obvious that the US public (as a whole) did not like the extreme positions taken by some of the candidates put up by the party.

                  The same holds true with the Democrat Party. If it (continues to) move to the extreme left, the public will reject it and the party will have to move back more towards the center.

                  Many of the non-local elections come down to the 30-40% of people in the middle.

                  In very general terms, 35% will vote for the party, regardless of who the candidate is, just because they have an R or a D by their name. It is the remaining 30-40% who will say, "hmm, this candidate from this party is too much to this side. I cant support him." Next election, they may say the same thing about the other party.

                  From a paper I have read, this middle % of voters is currently the US suburban voter. Rural areas trend R, cities trend D. The suburbs and semi-rural areas are the "swing" voters.

                  Lady, ain't no such things as "the Republics". I place that in the same silly category as the conjured word "redd". Individual idiosyncratic foolishness by people who should know better.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    @Jolly said in The Postmortem Continues:

                    Lady, it's not the Republic Party.

                    And their opposition continually tries to move the center ever Leftward, to socialism and what I think is the destruction of the country.

                    Sorry, I disagree. I think that this election will move the Republics back towards the center. To me, it is obvious that the US public (as a whole) did not like the extreme positions taken by some of the candidates put up by the party.

                    The same holds true with the Democrat Party. If it (continues to) move to the extreme left, the public will reject it and the party will have to move back more towards the center.

                    Many of the non-local elections come down to the 30-40% of people in the middle.

                    In very general terms, 35% will vote for the party, regardless of who the candidate is, just because they have an R or a D by their name. It is the remaining 30-40% who will say, "hmm, this candidate from this party is too much to this side. I cant support him." Next election, they may say the same thing about the other party.

                    From a paper I have read, this middle % of voters is currently the US suburban voter. Rural areas trend R, cities trend D. The suburbs and semi-rural areas are the "swing" voters.

                    JollyJ Offline
                    JollyJ Offline
                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    @taiwan_girl said in The Postmortem Continues:

                    @Jolly said in The Postmortem Continues:

                    Lady, it's not the Republic Party.

                    And their opposition continually tries to move the center ever Leftward, to socialism and what I think is the destruction of the country.

                    Sorry, I disagree. I think that this election will move the Republics back towards the center. To me, it is obvious that the US public (as a whole) did not like the extreme positions taken by some of the candidates put up by the party.

                    The same holds true with the Democrat Party. If it (continues to) move to the extreme left, the public will reject it and the party will have to move back more towards the center.

                    Many of the non-local elections come down to the 30-40% of people in the middle.

                    In very general terms, 35% will vote for the party, regardless of who the candidate is, just because they have an R or a D by their name. It is the remaining 30-40% who will say, "hmm, this candidate from this party is too much to this side. I cant support him." Next election, they may say the same thing about the other party.

                    From a paper I have read, this middle % of voters is currently the US suburban voter. Rural areas trend R, cities trend D. The suburbs and semi-rural areas are the "swing" voters.

                    And...The GOP got 5,000,000 more votes than the Democrats this last Congressional election. They did fairly well across most demographics, but they came up short when looking at women under 35, especially single moms.

                    Now, that poses some interesting questions...Did abortion trump economics among that age group? Did welfare, food stamps, government programs, etc., play a defining role? Did Biden's loan forgiveness play a role? Did these women vote their ass over their pocketbook?

                    And many other possible reasons may exist, but that's why people do postmortems, to answer questions...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @taiwan_girl said in The Postmortem Continues:

                      @Jolly said in The Postmortem Continues:

                      Lady, it's not the Republic Party.

                      And their opposition continually tries to move the center ever Leftward, to socialism and what I think is the destruction of the country.

                      Sorry, I disagree. I think that this election will move the Republics back towards the center. To me, it is obvious that the US public (as a whole) did not like the extreme positions taken by some of the candidates put up by the party.

                      The same holds true with the Democrat Party. If it (continues to) move to the extreme left, the public will reject it and the party will have to move back more towards the center.

                      Many of the non-local elections come down to the 30-40% of people in the middle.

                      In very general terms, 35% will vote for the party, regardless of who the candidate is, just because they have an R or a D by their name. It is the remaining 30-40% who will say, "hmm, this candidate from this party is too much to this side. I cant support him." Next election, they may say the same thing about the other party.

                      From a paper I have read, this middle % of voters is currently the US suburban voter. Rural areas trend R, cities trend D. The suburbs and semi-rural areas are the "swing" voters.

                      Lady, ain't no such things as "the Republics". I place that in the same silly category as the conjured word "redd". Individual idiosyncratic foolishness by people who should know better.

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                      @Jolly said in The Postmortem Continues:

                      ain't no such things as "the Republics

                      Sorry - mistype. Was supposed to be "Republicans"

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