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A New Way to Cook Steaks - no smoke or splatter

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    Horace
    wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 03:37 last edited by
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    The cold sear has driven men mad in their pursuit of it. It will NEVER be achieved. A coherent universe which can support peace and love, or a cold seared steak. Choose one.

    Education is extremely important.

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      Mik
      wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 04:00 last edited by
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      I’ve done the flip. It’s ok.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • M Mik
        14 Nov 2022, 04:00

        I’ve done the flip. It’s ok.

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        Aqua's Sister
        wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 12:32 last edited by
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        @Mik said in A New Way to Cook Steaks - no smoke or splatter:

        I’ve done the flip. It’s ok.

        It's better than OK, honey.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 12:44 last edited by
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          Could do 'em caveman style...

          Link to video

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • J Jolly
            14 Nov 2022, 12:44

            Could do 'em caveman style...

            Link to video

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            George K
            wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 12:51 last edited by
            #7

            @Jolly can't do that in the condo.

            Well, not more than once, that is.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              George K
              wrote on 4 Dec 2022, 02:04 last edited by
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              I made the steak this way tonight.

              I used a strip steak from Costco, about 1 ¼" thick. Seasoned with salt and pepper on both sides, and set in the refrigerator for about 8 hours.

              I took it out of the fridge about 45 minutes before cooking. I followed the instructions, and after two flips, I had a nice sear on the steak.

              Screenshot 2022-12-03 at 7.59.56 PM copy.jpg

              I ended up cooking it for about 12 minutes. The internal temperature was 120 degrees.

              I did set it on its edges for a few moments to char them.

              First of all, it was certainly medium rare and it was juicy. There was zero spatter and no mess to clean up.

              It's important to turn the heat down after the second sear, otherwise you'll start smoking.

              My only criticism was that it was not quite as flavorful as a sous-vide steak would have been. I assume that's because a) there was no time to allow aromatics and other flavors to penetrate the meat and b) I only used salt and pepper. Perhaps some steak rub would have changed that.

              I'll try it again, next time using a rub to season it up.

              It was certainly good, but it wasn't great.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • G George K
                4 Dec 2022, 02:04

                I made the steak this way tonight.

                I used a strip steak from Costco, about 1 ¼" thick. Seasoned with salt and pepper on both sides, and set in the refrigerator for about 8 hours.

                I took it out of the fridge about 45 minutes before cooking. I followed the instructions, and after two flips, I had a nice sear on the steak.

                Screenshot 2022-12-03 at 7.59.56 PM copy.jpg

                I ended up cooking it for about 12 minutes. The internal temperature was 120 degrees.

                I did set it on its edges for a few moments to char them.

                First of all, it was certainly medium rare and it was juicy. There was zero spatter and no mess to clean up.

                It's important to turn the heat down after the second sear, otherwise you'll start smoking.

                My only criticism was that it was not quite as flavorful as a sous-vide steak would have been. I assume that's because a) there was no time to allow aromatics and other flavors to penetrate the meat and b) I only used salt and pepper. Perhaps some steak rub would have changed that.

                I'll try it again, next time using a rub to season it up.

                It was certainly good, but it wasn't great.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 4 Dec 2022, 02:26 last edited by
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                @George-K said in A New Way to Cook Steaks - no smoke or splatter:

                It's important to turn the heat down after the second sear, otherwise you'll start smoking.

                I’ll make sure to remember that, it took me years to quit last time.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                  blondie
                  wrote on 4 Dec 2022, 12:19 last edited by
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                  I’ve been reading the many methods of creating the perfect TNCR steak for years, often thinking, “Is my method so wrong?” My family loves my high heat sear flip sear, then turn it down a notch, then wait a tad, then flip, then another tad, then poke for doneness steak. We do medium rare and I can tell doneness just by poking it with my finger. Anyway, reading this thread made me think 🤔… Hmm, yup .., it’s just so darn cold here in my kitchen .. my no stick electric fry pans always start out cold. And .. 9/10 times, my oh so awesome, perfectly bred & marbled Alberta beef comes basically straight from the fridge to my electric fry pan. I don’t use oil. No mess or splatter. No cover on the fry pan. I just season with pepper, sometimes a whiff of salt.

                  Note to @Renauda .. For special occasions I look for beef from Crossfield ->Innisfail.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 4 Dec 2022, 12:23 last edited by
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                    When I do it again, I'm going to marinate the steak for a few hours in whatever seasoned liquid I come up with for more flavor.

                    Then, dry it off and proceed with the method above.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • G George K
                      4 Dec 2022, 12:23

                      When I do it again, I'm going to marinate the steak for a few hours in whatever seasoned liquid I come up with for more flavor.

                      Then, dry it off and proceed with the method above.

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                      blondie
                      wrote on 4 Dec 2022, 12:37 last edited by
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                      @George-K Just a question .. what flavour do you strive for, .. like over & above the beef?

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                      • B blondie
                        4 Dec 2022, 12:37

                        @George-K Just a question .. what flavour do you strive for, .. like over & above the beef?

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                        George K
                        wrote on 4 Dec 2022, 12:39 last edited by
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                        @blondie said in A New Way to Cook Steaks - no smoke or splatter:

                        @George-K Just a question .. what flavour do you strive for, .. like over & above the beef?

                        Yeah.

                        When making steaks sous-vide, I throw some rosemary, olive oil and garlic into the bag. Then, when searing, I do it in a mixture of butter and canola oil with a sprig of rosemary. Baste, baste, baste...

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • G George K
                          4 Dec 2022, 12:39

                          @blondie said in A New Way to Cook Steaks - no smoke or splatter:

                          @George-K Just a question .. what flavour do you strive for, .. like over & above the beef?

                          Yeah.

                          When making steaks sous-vide, I throw some rosemary, olive oil and garlic into the bag. Then, when searing, I do it in a mixture of butter and canola oil with a sprig of rosemary. Baste, baste, baste...

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                          blondie
                          wrote on 4 Dec 2022, 12:45 last edited by
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                          @George-K Do you do this in order to taste the rosemary, or does the oil-fat make the beef taste, (excuse the grammar) .. “beefier”?

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                            4 Dec 2022, 12:45

                            @George-K Do you do this in order to taste the rosemary, or does the oil-fat make the beef taste, (excuse the grammar) .. “beefier”?

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                            George K
                            wrote on 4 Dec 2022, 12:54 last edited by
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                            @blondie said in A New Way to Cook Steaks - no smoke or splatter:

                            @George-K Do you do this in order to taste the rosemary, or does the oil-fat make the beef taste, (excuse the grammar) .. “beefier”?

                            Beefier. But it comes out "beefier" without the rosemary. I use it if I have some fresh on hand. Otherwise, salt, pepper, garlic and EVOO.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • G George K
                              4 Dec 2022, 12:54

                              @blondie said in A New Way to Cook Steaks - no smoke or splatter:

                              @George-K Do you do this in order to taste the rosemary, or does the oil-fat make the beef taste, (excuse the grammar) .. “beefier”?

                              Beefier. But it comes out "beefier" without the rosemary. I use it if I have some fresh on hand. Otherwise, salt, pepper, garlic and EVOO.

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                              blondie
                              wrote on 4 Dec 2022, 13:34 last edited by
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                              @George-K I avoid pre seasoning good cuts of beef with salt. Maybe it’s the nurse (or former runner) in me … but I think muscle breakdown, dehydration …-> less juicy beef taste. The older I get the more EVOO I use over canola. I don’t use these for beef though. I just really look & choose my cuts carefully for what type of meal I’m making.

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                              • B blondie
                                4 Dec 2022, 13:34

                                @George-K I avoid pre seasoning good cuts of beef with salt. Maybe it’s the nurse (or former runner) in me … but I think muscle breakdown, dehydration …-> less juicy beef taste. The older I get the more EVOO I use over canola. I don’t use these for beef though. I just really look & choose my cuts carefully for what type of meal I’m making.

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                                blondie
                                wrote on 4 Dec 2022, 13:44 last edited by
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                                @George-K I’m about to start the ‘hunt’ for Christmas dinner . It’ll be a 3 rib roast, but it needs to be perfect (& affordable). With this I’ll use garlic & rosemary, because, yum I love the taste too. The veggies will have it as well. If I find it this week I’ll freeze it then thaw near the 24th. I don’t really notice a difference with our beef using fresh vs thawed.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 1 Jan 2023, 02:07 last edited by
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                                  Just wondering...

                                  1. Can I do this with a filet? I would think it would be OK, despited the fact that the filet has less fat.

                                  2. Would it be safe to try with a pork chop?

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 1 Jan 2023, 05:06 last edited by
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                                    I do it with filets. Did it tonight after sous vide. With a pork chop it depends on thickness I’d imagine.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on 1 Jan 2023, 06:22 last edited by
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                                      I air fried a prime strip today. Good as always. Set it and forget it. I’ll have to start mesquite grilling again. But until then I’m fine with the air fryer.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 23 Feb 2023, 12:30 last edited by
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                                        I tried making a filet with this method last night. Filet is not my favorite cut of steak, but I had some extras after divvying up the Costco steaks I got the week before last, so I thought, why not?

                                        It was about 1 ½ inches thick. Long story short, it worked perfectly, although a little longer than I expected. I probably ended flipping it about 8-10 times (didn't count) and I did sear the edges as well.

                                        It was seasoned (pre cooking) with just salt and pepper. Came out juicy as can be, and very flavorful. However, it reminded me why I prefer strip steaks - I like a little more texture.

                                        Tempted to try pork chops this way.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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