A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy
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wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 17:30 last edited by
I don't think he makes a living, it's more subsistence.
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I don't think he makes a living, it's more subsistence.
wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 17:38 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes considering the fact that half of Americans don’t have any money in savings, subsistence livings are quantitatively equal. More or less.
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wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 17:54 last edited by
So, what would somebody have to do to make a meaningful sacrifice if spending their life working running a charitable enterprise catering to the poor with little to no financial reward doesn't count?
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wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 18:25 last edited by
What we need in order to think clearly is a way to calibrate our measure of self sacrifice. In fact the act of devoting one’s working life to a private sector job and providing value in exchange for compensation and paying taxes on that compensation is a life of a certain level of sacrifice. It’s just not the look-at-me-sacrificing sort of sacrifice. It’s the sort without which the world would stop.
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wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 18:32 last edited by
If being boring, bored and middle-aged is self-sacrifice, we're freaking sorted.
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wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 18:36 last edited by
I don’t have any reason to expect that a boring middle class job is less self interest based that whatever charitable self directed subsistence level life a neo hippy might try to fashion for themselves.
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wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 18:47 last edited by
Example of sacrifice that may count as such to Horace:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-father-fallen-soldier-ive-made-lot/story?id=41015051 -
I know a couple of people in the UK who are well-lefty and very right-on, and have actually given up on the idea of conventional careers, and run a charity cafe in the middle of town, and basically get nothing at all financially.
Of course, it's arguable whether this was a deliberate sacrifice or not, or whether they just couldn't hack it in the corporate world, but the guy, who used to be a friend of mine (we lost touch ages ago), is very academically gifted, but has always been very progressive - at least, for the last 30 odd years.
There's a tendency to dismiss these people as losers rather than somebody who has self-sacrificed. Hard to know, really.
wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 18:50 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:
I know a couple of people in the UK who are well-lefty and very right-on, and have actually given up on the idea of conventional careers, and run a charity cafe in the middle of town, and basically get nothing at all financially.
Of course, it's arguable whether this was a deliberate sacrifice or not, or whether they just couldn't hack it in the corporate world, but the guy, who used to be a friend of mine (we lost touch ages ago), is very academically gifted, but has always been very progressive - at least, for the last 30 odd years.
There's a tendency to dismiss these people as losers rather than somebody who has self-sacrificed. Hard to know, really.
Get rid of all the social programs that allow them to live their lifestyle at the expense of others, and see how that rock flies...
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@Doctor-Phibes said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:
I know a couple of people in the UK who are well-lefty and very right-on, and have actually given up on the idea of conventional careers, and run a charity cafe in the middle of town, and basically get nothing at all financially.
Of course, it's arguable whether this was a deliberate sacrifice or not, or whether they just couldn't hack it in the corporate world, but the guy, who used to be a friend of mine (we lost touch ages ago), is very academically gifted, but has always been very progressive - at least, for the last 30 odd years.
There's a tendency to dismiss these people as losers rather than somebody who has self-sacrificed. Hard to know, really.
Get rid of all the social programs that allow them to live their lifestyle at the expense of others, and see how that rock flies...
wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 19:05 last edited by@Jolly said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:
@Doctor-Phibes said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:
I know a couple of people in the UK who are well-lefty and very right-on, and have actually given up on the idea of conventional careers, and run a charity cafe in the middle of town, and basically get nothing at all financially.
Of course, it's arguable whether this was a deliberate sacrifice or not, or whether they just couldn't hack it in the corporate world, but the guy, who used to be a friend of mine (we lost touch ages ago), is very academically gifted, but has always been very progressive - at least, for the last 30 odd years.
There's a tendency to dismiss these people as losers rather than somebody who has self-sacrificed. Hard to know, really.
Get rid of all the social programs that allow them to live their lifestyle at the expense of others, and see how that rock flies...
You could say that about any number of people who do 'good works'. Quite a few who don't, come to that. A priest lives at the expense of others, and is exempt from paying taxes like the rest of us.
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If being boring, bored and middle-aged is self-sacrifice, we're freaking sorted.
wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 19:08 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:
If being boring, bored and middle-aged is self-sacrifice, we're freaking sorted.
Phibes, if there's one thing you're not, it's boring.
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wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 19:14 last edited by
You should talk to my wife and kids
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@Jolly said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:
@Doctor-Phibes said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:
I know a couple of people in the UK who are well-lefty and very right-on, and have actually given up on the idea of conventional careers, and run a charity cafe in the middle of town, and basically get nothing at all financially.
Of course, it's arguable whether this was a deliberate sacrifice or not, or whether they just couldn't hack it in the corporate world, but the guy, who used to be a friend of mine (we lost touch ages ago), is very academically gifted, but has always been very progressive - at least, for the last 30 odd years.
There's a tendency to dismiss these people as losers rather than somebody who has self-sacrificed. Hard to know, really.
Get rid of all the social programs that allow them to live their lifestyle at the expense of others, and see how that rock flies...
You could say that about any number of people who do 'good works'. Quite a few who don't, come to that. A priest lives at the expense of others, and is exempt from paying taxes like the rest of us.
wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 19:26 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:
@Jolly said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:
@Doctor-Phibes said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:
I know a couple of people in the UK who are well-lefty and very right-on, and have actually given up on the idea of conventional careers, and run a charity cafe in the middle of town, and basically get nothing at all financially.
Of course, it's arguable whether this was a deliberate sacrifice or not, or whether they just couldn't hack it in the corporate world, but the guy, who used to be a friend of mine (we lost touch ages ago), is very academically gifted, but has always been very progressive - at least, for the last 30 odd years.
There's a tendency to dismiss these people as losers rather than somebody who has self-sacrificed. Hard to know, really.
Get rid of all the social programs that allow them to live their lifestyle at the expense of others, and see how that rock flies...
You could say that about any number of people who do 'good works'. Quite a few who don't, come to that. A priest lives at the expense of others, and is exempt from paying taxes like the rest of us.
What is the typical salary of a priest and where does most of his daily sustenance come from? The government?
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@Jolly said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:
@Doctor-Phibes said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:
I know a couple of people in the UK who are well-lefty and very right-on, and have actually given up on the idea of conventional careers, and run a charity cafe in the middle of town, and basically get nothing at all financially.
Of course, it's arguable whether this was a deliberate sacrifice or not, or whether they just couldn't hack it in the corporate world, but the guy, who used to be a friend of mine (we lost touch ages ago), is very academically gifted, but has always been very progressive - at least, for the last 30 odd years.
There's a tendency to dismiss these people as losers rather than somebody who has self-sacrificed. Hard to know, really.
Get rid of all the social programs that allow them to live their lifestyle at the expense of others, and see how that rock flies...
You could say that about any number of people who do 'good works'. Quite a few who don't, come to that. A priest lives at the expense of others, and is exempt from paying taxes like the rest of us.
wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 02:20 last edited by Larry@Doctor-Phibes said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:
@Jolly said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:
@Doctor-Phibes said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:
I know a couple of people in the UK who are well-lefty and very right-on, and have actually given up on the idea of conventional careers, and run a charity cafe in the middle of town, and basically get nothing at all financially.
Of course, it's arguable whether this was a deliberate sacrifice or not, or whether they just couldn't hack it in the corporate world, but the guy, who used to be a friend of mine (we lost touch ages ago), is very academically gifted, but has always been very progressive - at least, for the last 30 odd years.
There's a tendency to dismiss these people as losers rather than somebody who has self-sacrificed. Hard to know, really.
Get rid of all the social programs that allow them to live their lifestyle at the expense of others, and see how that rock flies...
You could say that about any number of people who do 'good works'. Quite a few who don't, come to that. A priest lives at the expense of others, and is exempt from paying taxes like the rest of us.
No, priests are paid a salary for work performed, and they pay income tax on their earnings just like anyone else.