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    Loki
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    How long before a website goes up showing all the no police policy locations.

    What could go wrong? Actually where do we start? The rise of the private milita. It’s coming.

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      @Horace said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:

      One rule about progressives is that they have never made an important personal sacrifice for their ideals.

      Isn't that true of almost everybody?

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      @Doctor-Phibes said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:

      @Horace said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:

      One rule about progressives is that they have never made an important personal sacrifice for their ideals.

      Isn't that true of almost everybody?

      Yes the difference then becomes one of identity. Which side is filled with people who make the appropriate mob noises about caring more? Shouldn’t they differentiate by degree of self sacrifice?

      Education is extremely important.

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        Doctor Phibes
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        I know a couple of people in the UK who are well-lefty and very right-on, and have actually given up on the idea of conventional careers, and run a charity cafe in the middle of town, and basically get nothing at all financially.

        Of course, it's arguable whether this was a deliberate sacrifice or not, or whether they just couldn't hack it in the corporate world, but the guy, who used to be a friend of mine (we lost touch ages ago), is very academically gifted, but has always been very progressive - at least, for the last 30 odd years.

        There's a tendency to dismiss these people as losers rather than somebody who has self-sacrificed. Hard to know, really.

        I was only joking

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          I know a couple of people in the UK who are well-lefty and very right-on, and have actually given up on the idea of conventional careers, and run a charity cafe in the middle of town, and basically get nothing at all financially.

          Of course, it's arguable whether this was a deliberate sacrifice or not, or whether they just couldn't hack it in the corporate world, but the guy, who used to be a friend of mine (we lost touch ages ago), is very academically gifted, but has always been very progressive - at least, for the last 30 odd years.

          There's a tendency to dismiss these people as losers rather than somebody who has self-sacrificed. Hard to know, really.

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          @Doctor-Phibes said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:

          I know a couple of people in the UK who are well-lefty and very right-on, and have actually given up on the idea of conventional careers, and run a charity cafe in the middle of town, and basically get nothing at all financially.

          Of course, it's arguable whether this was a deliberate sacrifice or not, or whether they just couldn't hack it in the corporate world, but the guy, who used to be a friend of mine (we lost touch ages ago), is very academically gifted, but has always been very progressive - at least, for the last 30 odd years.

          There's a tendency to dismiss these people as losers rather than somebody who has self-sacrificed. Hard to know, really.

          White Privilege

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            Horace
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            I don’t dismiss them as losers. If you can make a living being your own boss you have succeeded. But you haven’t sacrificed for others. I keep going back to the pot of privilege gold that awaits the quantitatively equal. The middle class corporate job for the rest of your life.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Doctor Phibes
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              I don't think he makes a living, it's more subsistence.

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                I don't think he makes a living, it's more subsistence.

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                Horace
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                @Doctor-Phibes considering the fact that half of Americans don’t have any money in savings, subsistence livings are quantitatively equal. More or less.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  So, what would somebody have to do to make a meaningful sacrifice if spending their life working running a charitable enterprise catering to the poor with little to no financial reward doesn't count?

                  I was only joking

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                    What we need in order to think clearly is a way to calibrate our measure of self sacrifice. In fact the act of devoting one’s working life to a private sector job and providing value in exchange for compensation and paying taxes on that compensation is a life of a certain level of sacrifice. It’s just not the look-at-me-sacrificing sort of sacrifice. It’s the sort without which the world would stop.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      If being boring, bored and middle-aged is self-sacrifice, we're freaking sorted.

                      I was only joking

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                        Horace
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                        I don’t have any reason to expect that a boring middle class job is less self interest based that whatever charitable self directed subsistence level life a neo hippy might try to fashion for themselves.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          Axtremus
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                          Example of sacrifice that may count as such to Horace:
                          https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-father-fallen-soldier-ive-made-lot/story?id=41015051

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            I know a couple of people in the UK who are well-lefty and very right-on, and have actually given up on the idea of conventional careers, and run a charity cafe in the middle of town, and basically get nothing at all financially.

                            Of course, it's arguable whether this was a deliberate sacrifice or not, or whether they just couldn't hack it in the corporate world, but the guy, who used to be a friend of mine (we lost touch ages ago), is very academically gifted, but has always been very progressive - at least, for the last 30 odd years.

                            There's a tendency to dismiss these people as losers rather than somebody who has self-sacrificed. Hard to know, really.

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                            @Doctor-Phibes said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:

                            I know a couple of people in the UK who are well-lefty and very right-on, and have actually given up on the idea of conventional careers, and run a charity cafe in the middle of town, and basically get nothing at all financially.

                            Of course, it's arguable whether this was a deliberate sacrifice or not, or whether they just couldn't hack it in the corporate world, but the guy, who used to be a friend of mine (we lost touch ages ago), is very academically gifted, but has always been very progressive - at least, for the last 30 odd years.

                            There's a tendency to dismiss these people as losers rather than somebody who has self-sacrificed. Hard to know, really.

                            Get rid of all the social programs that allow them to live their lifestyle at the expense of others, and see how that rock flies...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              @Doctor-Phibes said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:

                              I know a couple of people in the UK who are well-lefty and very right-on, and have actually given up on the idea of conventional careers, and run a charity cafe in the middle of town, and basically get nothing at all financially.

                              Of course, it's arguable whether this was a deliberate sacrifice or not, or whether they just couldn't hack it in the corporate world, but the guy, who used to be a friend of mine (we lost touch ages ago), is very academically gifted, but has always been very progressive - at least, for the last 30 odd years.

                              There's a tendency to dismiss these people as losers rather than somebody who has self-sacrificed. Hard to know, really.

                              Get rid of all the social programs that allow them to live their lifestyle at the expense of others, and see how that rock flies...

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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              @Jolly said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:

                              I know a couple of people in the UK who are well-lefty and very right-on, and have actually given up on the idea of conventional careers, and run a charity cafe in the middle of town, and basically get nothing at all financially.

                              Of course, it's arguable whether this was a deliberate sacrifice or not, or whether they just couldn't hack it in the corporate world, but the guy, who used to be a friend of mine (we lost touch ages ago), is very academically gifted, but has always been very progressive - at least, for the last 30 odd years.

                              There's a tendency to dismiss these people as losers rather than somebody who has self-sacrificed. Hard to know, really.

                              Get rid of all the social programs that allow them to live their lifestyle at the expense of others, and see how that rock flies...

                              You could say that about any number of people who do 'good works'. Quite a few who don't, come to that. A priest lives at the expense of others, and is exempt from paying taxes like the rest of us.

                              I was only joking

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                If being boring, bored and middle-aged is self-sacrifice, we're freaking sorted.

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                                @Doctor-Phibes said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:

                                If being boring, bored and middle-aged is self-sacrifice, we're freaking sorted.

                                Phibes, if there's one thing you're not, it's boring.

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  You should talk to my wife and kids

                                  I was only joking

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                                    @Jolly said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:

                                    I know a couple of people in the UK who are well-lefty and very right-on, and have actually given up on the idea of conventional careers, and run a charity cafe in the middle of town, and basically get nothing at all financially.

                                    Of course, it's arguable whether this was a deliberate sacrifice or not, or whether they just couldn't hack it in the corporate world, but the guy, who used to be a friend of mine (we lost touch ages ago), is very academically gifted, but has always been very progressive - at least, for the last 30 odd years.

                                    There's a tendency to dismiss these people as losers rather than somebody who has self-sacrificed. Hard to know, really.

                                    Get rid of all the social programs that allow them to live their lifestyle at the expense of others, and see how that rock flies...

                                    You could say that about any number of people who do 'good works'. Quite a few who don't, come to that. A priest lives at the expense of others, and is exempt from paying taxes like the rest of us.

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                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:

                                    @Jolly said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:

                                    I know a couple of people in the UK who are well-lefty and very right-on, and have actually given up on the idea of conventional careers, and run a charity cafe in the middle of town, and basically get nothing at all financially.

                                    Of course, it's arguable whether this was a deliberate sacrifice or not, or whether they just couldn't hack it in the corporate world, but the guy, who used to be a friend of mine (we lost touch ages ago), is very academically gifted, but has always been very progressive - at least, for the last 30 odd years.

                                    There's a tendency to dismiss these people as losers rather than somebody who has self-sacrificed. Hard to know, really.

                                    Get rid of all the social programs that allow them to live their lifestyle at the expense of others, and see how that rock flies...

                                    You could say that about any number of people who do 'good works'. Quite a few who don't, come to that. A priest lives at the expense of others, and is exempt from paying taxes like the rest of us.

                                    What is the typical salary of a priest and where does most of his daily sustenance come from? The government?

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      @Jolly said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:

                                      I know a couple of people in the UK who are well-lefty and very right-on, and have actually given up on the idea of conventional careers, and run a charity cafe in the middle of town, and basically get nothing at all financially.

                                      Of course, it's arguable whether this was a deliberate sacrifice or not, or whether they just couldn't hack it in the corporate world, but the guy, who used to be a friend of mine (we lost touch ages ago), is very academically gifted, but has always been very progressive - at least, for the last 30 odd years.

                                      There's a tendency to dismiss these people as losers rather than somebody who has self-sacrificed. Hard to know, really.

                                      Get rid of all the social programs that allow them to live their lifestyle at the expense of others, and see how that rock flies...

                                      You could say that about any number of people who do 'good works'. Quite a few who don't, come to that. A priest lives at the expense of others, and is exempt from paying taxes like the rest of us.

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                                      Larry
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                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:

                                      @Jolly said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in A Minnesota Neighborhood Testing the “No Police” Policy:

                                      I know a couple of people in the UK who are well-lefty and very right-on, and have actually given up on the idea of conventional careers, and run a charity cafe in the middle of town, and basically get nothing at all financially.

                                      Of course, it's arguable whether this was a deliberate sacrifice or not, or whether they just couldn't hack it in the corporate world, but the guy, who used to be a friend of mine (we lost touch ages ago), is very academically gifted, but has always been very progressive - at least, for the last 30 odd years.

                                      There's a tendency to dismiss these people as losers rather than somebody who has self-sacrificed. Hard to know, really.

                                      Get rid of all the social programs that allow them to live their lifestyle at the expense of others, and see how that rock flies...

                                      You could say that about any number of people who do 'good works'. Quite a few who don't, come to that. A priest lives at the expense of others, and is exempt from paying taxes like the rest of us.

                                      No, priests are paid a salary for work performed, and they pay income tax on their earnings just like anyone else.

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