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    George K
    wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 21:42 last edited by
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    Mrs. George's church went through an audit today - everything is fine.

    However, the auditor said that for a small congregation (<100) they don't need anything sophisticated in terms of accounting software. Currently they use something called "ServantKeeper." It keeps track of contributions, etc.

    He suggested transitioning to Quickbooks. Anyone have any idea of what version they would use? Is that a good idea?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Mik
      wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 22:21 last edited by Mik
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      I took over as treasurer for my alumni association last September. The prior treasurer used QB. I hated it. It was massive overkill for what we were doing and his chart of accounts was horrible. I designed an Excel spreadsheet that does all we need faster and much more flexibly. In about an hour.

      A church is probably more complicated as you might have capital and operating budgets which we don’t.

      What I don’t like about QB is the same as healthcare software. It is intended to be all things to all users and you end up wading thru a lot of built in stuff that doesn’t apply to you. If you don’t know how to set up and maintain a chart of accounts it can get tricky fast.

      If Servantkeeper does what is needed and is reliable I would keep it. I suspect the auditor would like you to use QB because he knows it really well as opposed to any real benefit accruing to the church.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Axtremus
        wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 23:26 last edited by
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        QuickBooks is fine for many small businesses. But I share the sentiment that, if your current solution (ServantKeeper) is serving your purpose well, then there is no need to change.

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          Loki
          wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 00:02 last edited by
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          https://www.capterra.com/fundraising-software/compare/49768-2681/QuickBooks-Non-Profit-vs-Servant-Keeper

          I can’t see any QB advantage.

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          • L Loki
            24 Jun 2020, 00:02

            https://www.capterra.com/fundraising-software/compare/49768-2681/QuickBooks-Non-Profit-vs-Servant-Keeper

            I can’t see any QB advantage.

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            George K
            wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 00:09 last edited by
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            @Loki thanks! I'll print that out and give it to Mrs. George.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              24 Jun 2020, 00:02

              https://www.capterra.com/fundraising-software/compare/49768-2681/QuickBooks-Non-Profit-vs-Servant-Keeper

              I can’t see any QB advantage.

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              Mik
              wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 00:40 last edited by
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              @Loki said in Quickbooks?:

              https://www.capterra.com/fundraising-software/compare/49768-2681/QuickBooks-Non-Profit-vs-Servant-Keeper

              I can’t see any QB advantage.

              Certainly nothing to justify the effort and expense to migrate to QB. I’m a believer in industry-specific software.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                George K
                wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 00:43 last edited by
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                The problem with ServantKeeper, from what I'm understanding, is that they're way behind in updates, and the cost to get up to the current version is substantial.

                Also, unless you get a premier tier level, every call/service support request is expensive.

                Like I said, it's a small congregation, and they don't need all the features that SK offers.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  xenon
                  wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 01:24 last edited by xenon
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                  Take a look at a few of these.

                  https://blog.capterra.com/5-outstanding-nonprofit-accounting-software-solutions-worth-paying-for/

                  There are a bunch of cloud services now (e.g., Alpos does donor management). These will likely cost more in the long run (monthly cost) - but it'll always be up to date.

                  Quickbooks is a swiss army knife - it's used as a business's system of record until they get big enough to migrate to a proper ERP / ERM system. So, it'll be complicated.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 13:36 last edited by
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                    If this is too much feature functionality for her church they might consider just using Excel. There are a lot of free templates out there for churches and nonprofits.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • M Mik
                      24 Jun 2020, 13:36

                      If this is too much feature functionality for her church they might consider just using Excel. There are a lot of free templates out there for churches and nonprofits.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 13:41 last edited by
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                      @Mik said in Quickbooks?:

                      If this is too much feature functionality for her church they might consider just using Excel. There are a lot of free templates out there for churches and nonprofits.

                      Really? I'll look into those.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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