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  • J jon-nyc
    15 Apr 2023, 20:23

    And then be slayed a second and final time by killer Joe.

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    Jolly
    wrote on 15 Apr 2023, 20:30 last edited by
    #213

    @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    And then be slayed a second and final time by killer Joe.

    Joe cannot stay in the basement this time. That won't ever work again.

    Secondly, it's the economy, stupid. If we're doing as badly as I think we will, the Dems would have trouble getting Jesus Christ elected

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 15 Apr 2023, 20:35 last edited by
      #214

      Biden didn’t beat Trump. It was +50% of the electorate voting “not Trump”.

      I see no reason to think that will be different in 2024.

      The Brad

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        xenon
        wrote on 15 Apr 2023, 20:49 last edited by xenon
        #215

        Why do you seem to want Trump, @Jolly

        Is it his electability or governing chops?

        Pendulums are a thing. I don’t think we’ll get moderate on the other side of that one.

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        • J Jolly
          15 Apr 2023, 20:30

          @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

          And then be slayed a second and final time by killer Joe.

          Joe cannot stay in the basement this time. That won't ever work again.

          Secondly, it's the economy, stupid. If we're doing as badly as I think we will, the Dems would have trouble getting Jesus Christ elected

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          Copper
          wrote on 15 Apr 2023, 20:53 last edited by
          #216

          @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

          Joe cannot stay in the basement this time.

          There is no option.

          I don't think he can win an election with his oratory.

          But he can lose it.

          Opening his mouth or letting us see more of his feeble walk won't help at all.

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            xenon
            wrote on 15 Apr 2023, 20:56 last edited by xenon
            #217

            A Republican centrist would be an absolute layup in the general - and would probably pull in a bunch of Republican legislators.

            Can’t have that now, can we. Must be the savior.

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            • C Copper
              15 Apr 2023, 20:53

              @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

              Joe cannot stay in the basement this time.

              There is no option.

              I don't think he can win an election with his oratory.

              But he can lose it.

              Opening his mouth or letting us see more of his feeble walk won't help at all.

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 15 Apr 2023, 20:58 last edited by
              #218

              @Copper said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

              @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

              Joe cannot stay in the basement this time.

              There is no option.

              I don't think he can win an election with his oratory.

              But he can lose it.

              Opening his mouth or letting us see more of his feeble walk won't help at all.

              Doesn’t matter. Not Trump.

              The Brad

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              • L LuFins Dad
                15 Apr 2023, 17:46

                @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                DeSantis is running. Make no mistake.

                Kelly Conway said the other day, that the media frenzy over Trump gave him $3B worth of advertising in 2016. Wonder what all this current infatuation is worth?

                Seriously? Ignore the polls for now. Nobody has attacked Trump yet, and he is vulnerable to lose some of his base once it starts getting hammered home that Trump allowed Fauci to dictate the general response over the first few months. Start running the video of Trump recommending using scarves if you have no masks…Run the video of him promoting and lauding the vaccines and the shutdowns. Remember the news conference when he stated that no Governor can open up their state without his authority? They can have a field day with that.

                Commercials showing the incomplete wall and the showing that Mexico did not in fact pay for it. How did that swamp draining go? Insert picture of Hunter and the Big Guy on Air Force One.

                Hey, notice all the problems with the FBI over the last few years? False Flags, planted FBI informants stoking trouble at the January 6th protests, and don’t forget who was investigating parents at school board meetings? Who appointed the FBI Director, again? Oh, that’s right, Lame Donald. So sad.

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                Mik
                wrote on 15 Apr 2023, 22:40 last edited by
                #219

                @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                DeSantis is running. Make no mistake.

                Kelly Conway said the other day, that the media frenzy over Trump gave him $3B worth of advertising in 2016. Wonder what all this current infatuation is worth?

                Seriously? Ignore the polls for now. Nobody has attacked Trump yet, and he is vulnerable to lose some of his base once it starts getting hammered home that Trump allowed Fauci to dictate the general response over the first few months. Start running the video of Trump recommending using scarves if you have no masks…Run the video of him promoting and lauding the vaccines and the shutdowns. Remember the news conference when he stated that no Governor can open up their state without his authority? They can have a field day with that.

                Commercials showing the incomplete wall and the showing that Mexico did not in fact pay for it. How did that swamp draining go? Insert picture of Hunter and the Big Guy on Air Force One.

                Hey, notice all the problems with the FBI over the last few years? False Flags, planted FBI informants stoking trouble at the January 6th protests, and don’t forget who was investigating parents at school board meetings? Who appointed the FBI Director, again? Oh, that’s right, Lame Donald. So sad.

                You thought draining the swamp was going to be easy?

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • J Jolly
                  15 Apr 2023, 17:52

                  Just looked at some GOP numbers from Kentucky that showed the indictment by Bragg made Republican voters 40% more likely to vote for him.

                  Get ready...😱😱

                  alt text

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 15 Apr 2023, 22:50 last edited by Renauda
                  #220

                  @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                  Just looked at some GOP numbers from Kentucky that showed the indictment by Bragg made Republican voters 40% more likely to vote for him.

                  Get ready...😱😱

                  alt text

                  Not only lame but tacky. Ridiculously so.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • R Renauda
                    15 Apr 2023, 22:50

                    @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                    Just looked at some GOP numbers from Kentucky that showed the indictment by Bragg made Republican voters 40% more likely to vote for him.

                    Get ready...😱😱

                    alt text

                    Not only lame but tacky. Ridiculously so.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 15 Apr 2023, 22:54 last edited by
                    #221

                    @Renauda said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                    tacky. Ridiculously so.

                    You expected otherwise?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • G George K
                      15 Apr 2023, 22:54

                      @Renauda said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                      tacky. Ridiculously so.

                      You expected otherwise?

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 15 Apr 2023, 22:57 last edited by Renauda
                      #222

                      @George-K

                      Unfortunately, no, I didn’t.

                      Edit: Nor should I have expected otherwise.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • L LuFins Dad
                        15 Apr 2023, 20:35

                        Biden didn’t beat Trump. It was +50% of the electorate voting “not Trump”.

                        I see no reason to think that will be different in 2024.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 00:38 last edited by
                        #223

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                        Biden didn’t beat Trump. It was +50% of the electorate voting “not Trump”.

                        I see no reason to think that will be different in 2024.

                        Agreed. But Biden will still be “not Trump” in 2024.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                        • M Mik
                          15 Apr 2023, 22:40

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                          @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                          DeSantis is running. Make no mistake.

                          Kelly Conway said the other day, that the media frenzy over Trump gave him $3B worth of advertising in 2016. Wonder what all this current infatuation is worth?

                          Seriously? Ignore the polls for now. Nobody has attacked Trump yet, and he is vulnerable to lose some of his base once it starts getting hammered home that Trump allowed Fauci to dictate the general response over the first few months. Start running the video of Trump recommending using scarves if you have no masks…Run the video of him promoting and lauding the vaccines and the shutdowns. Remember the news conference when he stated that no Governor can open up their state without his authority? They can have a field day with that.

                          Commercials showing the incomplete wall and the showing that Mexico did not in fact pay for it. How did that swamp draining go? Insert picture of Hunter and the Big Guy on Air Force One.

                          Hey, notice all the problems with the FBI over the last few years? False Flags, planted FBI informants stoking trouble at the January 6th protests, and don’t forget who was investigating parents at school board meetings? Who appointed the FBI Director, again? Oh, that’s right, Lame Donald. So sad.

                          You thought draining the swamp was going to be easy?

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 00:48 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                          #224

                          @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                          You thought draining the swamp was going to be easy?

                          It always surprises me quite how many Lord Farquaad references there are to be made about the guy. If they'd made Shrek after Trump became President, there'd have been an outcry about the pernicious politicization of children's movies.

                          I was only joking

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                          • J jon-nyc
                            16 Apr 2023, 00:38

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                            Biden didn’t beat Trump. It was +50% of the electorate voting “not Trump”.

                            I see no reason to think that will be different in 2024.

                            Agreed. But Biden will still be “not Trump” in 2024.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 01:02 last edited by
                            #225

                            @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                            Biden didn’t beat Trump. It was +50% of the electorate voting “not Trump”.

                            I see no reason to think that will be different in 2024.

                            Agreed. But Biden will still be “not Trump” in 2024.

                            @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                            Biden didn’t beat Trump. It was +50% of the electorate voting “not Trump”.

                            I see no reason to think that will be different in 2024.

                            Agreed. But Biden will still be “not Trump” in 2024.

                            Oh, I agree. That was the second part of my statement. But I do believe Lame Donald (so sad) is vulnerable to having a significant enough part of his base turned. They are still seething over policies that he at least stood aside for if not actually promoted…

                            The Brad

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 01:12 last edited by
                              #226

                              It will be interesting to see how he handles the vaccine deniers.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • J Jolly
                                15 Apr 2023, 17:52

                                Just looked at some GOP numbers from Kentucky that showed the indictment by Bragg made Republican voters 40% more likely to vote for him.

                                Get ready...😱😱

                                alt text

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                                Copper
                                wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 01:29 last edited by
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                                Mr. Trump did not make this photoshop.

                                Mr. Biden commissioned it for the Oval Office.

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                                  taiwan_girl
                                  wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 02:17 last edited by
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                                  I agree with @LuFins-Dad and @jon-nyc .

                                  The best candidate the Democrat could have in 2024 election is President Trump.

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                                  • X xenon
                                    15 Apr 2023, 20:49

                                    Why do you seem to want Trump, @Jolly

                                    Is it his electability or governing chops?

                                    Pendulums are a thing. I don’t think we’ll get moderate on the other side of that one.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 03:14 last edited by
                                    #229

                                    @xenon

                                    I could be persuaded to support DeSantis, but if Trump can navigate the legal rapids, I don't see DeSantis making a run at him...Unless Trump does something really stupid.

                                    A moderate Republican? A RINO? Won't make it through the primaries, especially in the South.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • J jon-nyc
                                      16 Apr 2023, 00:38

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                      Biden didn’t beat Trump. It was +50% of the electorate voting “not Trump”.

                                      I see no reason to think that will be different in 2024.

                                      Agreed. But Biden will still be “not Trump” in 2024.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 03:16 last edited by
                                      #230

                                      @jon-nyc I watched Biden on the news today. The man can barely walk. By 2024, he may not be able to. The American public has elected a guy in a wheelchair before, but not a senile guy in a wheelchair...

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • J Jolly
                                        16 Apr 2023, 03:16

                                        @jon-nyc I watched Biden on the news today. The man can barely walk. By 2024, he may not be able to. The American public has elected a guy in a wheelchair before, but not a senile guy in a wheelchair...

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 03:19 last edited by
                                        #231

                                        @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                        @jon-nyc I watched Biden on the news today. The man can barely walk. By 2024, he may not be able to. The American public has elected a guy in a wheelchair before, but not a senile guy in a wheelchair...

                                        Not Trump

                                        The Brad

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                                        • J Jolly
                                          16 Apr 2023, 03:14

                                          @xenon

                                          I could be persuaded to support DeSantis, but if Trump can navigate the legal rapids, I don't see DeSantis making a run at him...Unless Trump does something really stupid.

                                          A moderate Republican? A RINO? Won't make it through the primaries, especially in the South.

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                                          xenon
                                          wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 03:19 last edited by xenon
                                          #232

                                          @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                          ...Unless Trump does something really stupid.

                                          If he unzipped and helicoptered that would somehow be rationalized as draining the swamp.

                                          Politics is now literally reality TV, and he’s the funnest character. Adults should not want him.

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