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I'm selling my blood...

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/retirement/i-m-selling-my-blood-millions-in-us-can-t-make-ends-meet-with-two-jobs/ar-AA13LAcg?rc=1&ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=7958d19ef34449eda155cb8dc2286709

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      Thank you, Ms Lewis, on behalf of users of blood products such as myself.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        People have been doing that for years. In 1980 lots of folks did that in San Diego.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Why blood makes up over 2.5% of all U.S. exports

          In America, blood means big business. The North American blood market was valued at $3.3 billion in 2021, according to Global Market Insights Inc.

          Blood makes up 2.69% of U.S. exports, according to the Census Bureau.

          https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/30/why-blood-makes-up-over-2point5percent-of-all-us-exports.html

          You can expect to be paid around $20 to $50 per donation.

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            Why blood makes up over 2.5% of all U.S. exports

            In America, blood means big business. The North American blood market was valued at $3.3 billion in 2021, according to Global Market Insights Inc.

            Blood makes up 2.69% of U.S. exports, according to the Census Bureau.

            https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/30/why-blood-makes-up-over-2point5percent-of-all-us-exports.html

            You can expect to be paid around $20 to $50 per donation.

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            @Copper

            Didn’t click the link but the main reason why is that the US is one of the few countries that allows payment for donation.

            Donations took a big hit last year as DHS changed a rule that used to allow Mexicans on the border to come over with their tourist visas and donate plasma. A lot of them did it several times a month. I’m guessing 5-10% of the US supply was cut off overnight.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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              @Copper

              Didn’t click the link but the main reason why is that the US is one of the few countries that allows payment for donation.

              Donations took a big hit last year as DHS changed a rule that used to allow Mexicans on the border to come over with their tourist visas and donate plasma. A lot of them did it several times a month. I’m guessing 5-10% of the US supply was cut off overnight.

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              By the way it takes 900 plasma donations to make 1 year of therapy for someone with Alpha-1

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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                What is interesting is that in the US, there are a lot of restrictions on people who have traveled to various countries. I believe that this is mainly for malaria reasons.

                For example, if you travel to Thailand, you are restricted from giving blood in the US for X period of time. But obviously, people in Thailand are donating all the time. I don't think that Thailand has a blood malaria test that the US does not. Maybe they are just willing to take a higher risk.

                Same with weight restrictions in the US. If you are below a certain weight, you cannot donate. But no such restrictions overseas. :woman-shrugging:

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @Copper

                  Didn’t click the link but the main reason why is that the US is one of the few countries that allows payment for donation.

                  Donations took a big hit last year as DHS changed a rule that used to allow Mexicans on the border to come over with their tourist visas and donate plasma. A lot of them did it several times a month. I’m guessing 5-10% of the US supply was cut off overnight.

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                  @jon-nyc said in I'm selling my blood...:

                  @Copper

                  Didn’t click the link but the main reason why is that the US is one of the few countries that allows payment for donation.

                  Donations took a big hit last year as DHS changed a rule that used to allow Mexicans on the border to come over with their tourist visas and donate plasma. A lot of them did it several times a month. I’m guessing 5-10% of the US supply was cut off overnight.

                  The Red Cross is the big blood buyer. The service we use will not pay for it - volunteer only. We get a lot of blood from Fort Polk and from Barksdale. I've heard through the grapevine a donation is usually worth a weekend pass.

                  Plasma? Yeah, whole 'nuther ballgame...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    #9

                    Yes but you’d be surprised how many countries criminalize the compensation of donors. And plasma donation is a tedious process. You’re not getting many if you don’t pay.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      From Copper’s article:

                      Since there is no substitute for human blood, demand can be hard to meet.

                      Yes and no! No substitute for blood itself but some of the protein therapies derived from fractionated plasma can be engineered in a lab. Inhibrx is a company starting P2 trials in 1Q23 for a “FC engineered” recombinant Alpha-1 Antitrypsin protein. It’s actually engineered to oxidize less so it will last longer in the bloodstream than human derived AAT.

                      Not sure if this approach is being investigated for other plasma-derived products such as IVIg or clotting factors for hemophiliacs, but I suspect so.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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