More whackadoodle stuff.
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I am still having trouble figuring out how exactly a crazy guy with a hammer was able to gain access to to the house of the woman that is two heartbeats from the Presidency of the United States, and in reality is the 2nd most powerful elected official.
The guy couldn’t have gained access to my house, how the hell did he get in there?
@LuFins-Dad said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
how exactly a crazy guy with a hammer was able to gain access to to the house
Mr. Pelosi simply opened the door.
No big deal.
The same way he opened the door for the police, before the hammer incident.
And then went back to standing near the felon to wrestle over the hammer.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@jon-nyc said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.
In a selective and tautological sense usually. It’s common to exclude conservative media despite it having gone “mainstream” decades ago.
I seem to remember being laughed at a while back for saying that Fox News was part of the MSM.
What's more common is to ignore the propensity of the messaging, throughout all media, (let's just call it all cultural messaging), and satisfy oneself that both sides are the same, by pointing to one example from the opposing tribe.
@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@jon-nyc said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.
In a selective and tautological sense usually. It’s common to exclude conservative media despite it having gone “mainstream” decades ago.
I seem to remember being laughed at a while back for saying that Fox News was part of the MSM.
What's more common is to ignore the propensity of the messaging, throughout all media, (let's just call it all cultural messaging), and satisfy oneself that both sides are the same, by pointing to one example from the opposing tribe.
I don’t see much difference between Fox and CNN. If we’re talking about media, the only difference is that there’s more mainstream liberal media. Fox is no more honest and has no more integrity than its liberal counterparts
I was only joking
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@jon-nyc said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
A hammer to a window wouldn’t get someone in your house? Do you have bars or something?
Our windows are elevated. The sill of the first-floor window is over 6ft high. You would need a ladder. Then the windows are double panes laminates with poly between both panes. Even if the glass shatters, it's not coming out. Even if it does, by the time the guy climbs through, our Border Collie has enjoyed a tasty snack.
Patio doors are triple-paned and have 4 layers of poly security film... A sledge might knock it out with enough strikes, but that carpenter's hammer the guy used is going to bounce off...
So yeah, the crazy guy with a hammer isn't getting into my house, and I'm not worth hundreds of millions of dollars, and my wife is not second in line for the throne, so to speak, with all of the security conditions that come along with that.
I can't imagine them not using polycarbonate windows and panels on all of the ground-level windows and doors. I also can't imagine that there isn't a security system connected to each of the windows and motion detectors throughout the house. Even if the video cameras weren't being monitored, a standard security alarm should have been going off somewhere.
I'm also surprised there were no dogs in the house.
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@jon-nyc said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
A hammer to a window wouldn’t get someone in your house? Do you have bars or something?
Our windows are elevated. The sill of the first-floor window is over 6ft high. You would need a ladder. Then the windows are double panes laminates with poly between both panes. Even if the glass shatters, it's not coming out. Even if it does, by the time the guy climbs through, our Border Collie has enjoyed a tasty snack.
Patio doors are triple-paned and have 4 layers of poly security film... A sledge might knock it out with enough strikes, but that carpenter's hammer the guy used is going to bounce off...
So yeah, the crazy guy with a hammer isn't getting into my house, and I'm not worth hundreds of millions of dollars, and my wife is not second in line for the throne, so to speak, with all of the security conditions that come along with that.
I can't imagine them not using polycarbonate windows and panels on all of the ground-level windows and doors. I also can't imagine that there isn't a security system connected to each of the windows and motion detectors throughout the house. Even if the video cameras weren't being monitored, a standard security alarm should have been going off somewhere.
I'm also surprised there were no dogs in the house.
@LuFins-Dad there was also some talk about the broken glass being on the outside of the house, not where you'd expect it - on the inside of a break in.
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@George-K said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@LuFins-Dad said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Okay, let’s compare with Scalise, then.
Again, somewhat apple to orange.
In the shooting of Giffords, 18 people were shot, 6 killed, including a federal judge and a 9 year old kid.
In the shooting of Scalise, 4 people shot, none killed.
Sadly, but in general, the bigger the shooting, the more headlines and news stories.
@taiwan_girl said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@George-K said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@LuFins-Dad said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Okay, let’s compare with Scalise, then.
Again, somewhat apple to orange.
In the shooting of Giffords, 18 people were shot, 6 killed, including a federal judge and a 9 year old kid.
In the shooting of Scalise, 4 people shot, none killed.
Sadly, but in general, the bigger the shooting, the more headlines and news stories.
Forgot a couple of things.
- Handgun vs. Rifle
- D.C. vs.Arizona
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factcheck.org says the attacker was not a prostitute allowed into the house by Mr. Pelosi.
I never trust factcheck.org, so this is all the evidence I need
The guy was a gigolo allowed in by Mr. Pelosi, no doubt.
A man armed with a hammer broke into the home of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and fractured the skull of her husband, Paul. Some conservative figures — including Donald Trump Jr. — have shared social media posts claiming with no evidence and contrary to police reports that the man was a prostitute known to Paul Pelosi. He wasn’t.
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@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@jon-nyc said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.
In a selective and tautological sense usually. It’s common to exclude conservative media despite it having gone “mainstream” decades ago.
I seem to remember being laughed at a while back for saying that Fox News was part of the MSM.
What's more common is to ignore the propensity of the messaging, throughout all media, (let's just call it all cultural messaging), and satisfy oneself that both sides are the same, by pointing to one example from the opposing tribe.
I don’t see much difference between Fox and CNN. If we’re talking about media, the only difference is that there’s more mainstream liberal media. Fox is no more honest and has no more integrity than its liberal counterparts
@Doctor-Phibes said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@jon-nyc said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.
In a selective and tautological sense usually. It’s common to exclude conservative media despite it having gone “mainstream” decades ago.
I seem to remember being laughed at a while back for saying that Fox News was part of the MSM.
What's more common is to ignore the propensity of the messaging, throughout all media, (let's just call it all cultural messaging), and satisfy oneself that both sides are the same, by pointing to one example from the opposing tribe.
I don’t see much difference between Fox and CNN. If we’re talking about media, the only difference is that there’s more mainstream liberal media. Fox is no more honest and has no more integrity than its liberal counterparts
I don’t think I ever claimed otherwise. While I tend to agree directionally with Carlson, I have been made aware of several of his not finest moments that would qualify as tribal nonsense.
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Has this appeared in the Times yet?
She’s not a politician, but I would think that a protester being choked be a Hochul supporter would count as political violence?
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Has this appeared in the Times yet?
She’s not a politician, but I would think that a protester being choked be a Hochul supporter would count as political violence?
@LuFins-Dad said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Has this appeared in the Times yet?
She’s not a politician, but I would think that a protester being choked be a Hochul supporter would count as political violence?
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@LuFins-Dad said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Has this appeared in the Times yet?
She’s not a politician, but I would think that a protester being choked be a Hochul supporter would count as political violence?
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@LuFins-Dad said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Has this appeared in the Times yet?
She’s not a politician, but I would think that a protester being choked be a Hochul supporter would count as political violence?
@George-K said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@LuFins-Dad said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Has this appeared in the Times yet?
She’s not a politician, but I would think that a protester being choked be a Hochul supporter would count as political violence?
Turns out it wasn’t beer. It was (snicker) hard seltzer… How friggin perfect is that?
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Shut up
NBC Bay Area affiliate's report on Paul Pelosi attack shares key details with retracted 'Today' report
NBC Bay Area’s report includes details that Pelosi opened door for police, didn't try to leave house
A new NBC Bay Area report about the assault on Paul Pelosi last month includes several of the same details in NBC News' retracted national report that suggested Pelosi may not have been in immediate danger when police arrived prior to his attack.
NBC News national correspondent Miguel Almaguer reported on Nov. 4 for "Today" that police didn’t know they were responding to the Pelosi residence, Pelosi opened the door for police but didn’t attempt to escape or declare an emergency, and even walked away from law enforcement and toward his eventual attacker.
Almaguer’s report was erased from all NBC News platforms later in the day. It was scrubbed from social media, and NBC News issued an editor's note on its website, reading, "This piece has been removed from publication because it did not meet NBC News reporting standards."
However, a local NBC reporter’s similar story was not retracted and remained online as of Wednesday morning.
