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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    https://www.danielgreenfield.org/2022/10/dont-trust-experts-experts-say.html

    Why do experts keep saying things? For one thing there’s so many more of them.

    Between 2000 and 2018, the number of people with doctorates more than doubled from 2 million to 4.5 million. That’s a lot of instant experts. During that same period, the number of institutions handing them out like candy rose over 10%.

    In 1958, a total of 8,773 doctoral degrees were awarded, the majority of them in scientific fields. Back then they were a whole lot rarer and the holder was worthy of some respect. Three years later, the Apollo project was underway. In 1969, the year we landed on the moon, 25,743 doctorates were awarded, most of them in science.

    In 2020, 55,283 doctoral degrees were awarded. And we’re far dumber for it, even if the experts won’t say so because they’re part of the problem. Many of the doctorates may be in science, but only in the sense that Dr. Jill Biden is a doctor. Quite a few, like Jill’s, are in education including plenty of emotional intelligence doctorates. There are PhDs in diversity, equity, inclusion and justice. Including a Justice and Diversity in Education from Vanderbilt. Arizona State boasts of the “nation’s first School of Social Transformation” as part of a gender studies PhD program. Fat studies have their doctoral programs and experts say that’s good....

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • George KG Offline
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      If you take population growth into consideration, the number of doctorates in 2020 is still three times what it was in 1958.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        OK, but who is the best doctor in the world?

        Dr William A. Abdu, M.D, M.S.

        Dr Abdu is an Associate Professor of Orthopedics and The Dartmouth Institute Medical Director at Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center. Dr Abdu got his accreditation in 1985 from Tufts University.

        He is a pioneer in the study and treatment of spine-related conditions. Being one of the best orthopaedic surgeons, he hones surgery of the spine, including cervical, thoracic, and lumbar disorders, disk herniation, spinal stenosis, spondylolisthesis, spondylotic myelopathy, spinal cord injury, and spine trauma. Also, he discovered many new techniques for spine treatment.

        https://www.embibe.com/exams/top-10-doctors-around-the-world/

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        • CopperC Copper

          OK, but who is the best doctor in the world?

          Dr William A. Abdu, M.D, M.S.

          Dr Abdu is an Associate Professor of Orthopedics and The Dartmouth Institute Medical Director at Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center. Dr Abdu got his accreditation in 1985 from Tufts University.

          He is a pioneer in the study and treatment of spine-related conditions. Being one of the best orthopaedic surgeons, he hones surgery of the spine, including cervical, thoracic, and lumbar disorders, disk herniation, spinal stenosis, spondylolisthesis, spondylotic myelopathy, spinal cord injury, and spine trauma. Also, he discovered many new techniques for spine treatment.

          https://www.embibe.com/exams/top-10-doctors-around-the-world/

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          @Copper said in Experts:

          who is the best doctor in the world?

          Whoopi Goldberg disagrees.

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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            https://www.danielgreenfield.org/2022/10/dont-trust-experts-experts-say.html

            Why do experts keep saying things? For one thing there’s so many more of them.

            Between 2000 and 2018, the number of people with doctorates more than doubled from 2 million to 4.5 million. That’s a lot of instant experts. During that same period, the number of institutions handing them out like candy rose over 10%.

            In 1958, a total of 8,773 doctoral degrees were awarded, the majority of them in scientific fields. Back then they were a whole lot rarer and the holder was worthy of some respect. Three years later, the Apollo project was underway. In 1969, the year we landed on the moon, 25,743 doctorates were awarded, most of them in science.

            In 2020, 55,283 doctoral degrees were awarded. And we’re far dumber for it, even if the experts won’t say so because they’re part of the problem. Many of the doctorates may be in science, but only in the sense that Dr. Jill Biden is a doctor. Quite a few, like Jill’s, are in education including plenty of emotional intelligence doctorates. There are PhDs in diversity, equity, inclusion and justice. Including a Justice and Diversity in Education from Vanderbilt. Arizona State boasts of the “nation’s first School of Social Transformation” as part of a gender studies PhD program. Fat studies have their doctoral programs and experts say that’s good....

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            Doctor Phibes
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            @Jolly said in Experts:

            Why do experts keep saying things?

            A more interesting question is why do non-experts keep saying things, and get at least as much airtime as experts.

            I was only joking

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            • CopperC Copper

              OK, but who is the best doctor in the world?

              Dr William A. Abdu, M.D, M.S.

              Dr Abdu is an Associate Professor of Orthopedics and The Dartmouth Institute Medical Director at Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center. Dr Abdu got his accreditation in 1985 from Tufts University.

              He is a pioneer in the study and treatment of spine-related conditions. Being one of the best orthopaedic surgeons, he hones surgery of the spine, including cervical, thoracic, and lumbar disorders, disk herniation, spinal stenosis, spondylolisthesis, spondylotic myelopathy, spinal cord injury, and spine trauma. Also, he discovered many new techniques for spine treatment.

              https://www.embibe.com/exams/top-10-doctors-around-the-world/

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              Doctor Phibes
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              @Copper said in Experts:

              OK, but who is the best doctor in the world?

              Modesty forbids...

              I was only joking

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                @Jolly said in Experts:

                Why do experts keep saying things?

                A more interesting question is why do non-experts keep saying things, and get at least as much airtime as experts.

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                @Doctor-Phibes said in Experts:

                @Jolly said in Experts:

                Why do experts keep saying things?

                A more interesting question is why do non-experts keep saying things, and get at least as much airtime as experts.

                Because generally they're smarter?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Experts:

                  @Jolly said in Experts:

                  Why do experts keep saying things?

                  A more interesting question is why do non-experts keep saying things, and get at least as much airtime as experts.

                  Because generally they're smarter?

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                  @Jolly said in Experts:

                  Because generally they're smarter?

                  Yeah, the history of theoretical physics is totally dominated by guys who were self taught, and kind of just picked it up as they went along.

                  Show me a guy who boasts about attending The University of Life, and I'll show you a guy who flunked maths.

                  One of the big problems with the internet is it gives a public voice to a bunch of cretins who are quite happy to expound on subjects about which they know Sweet FA.

                  I was only joking

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    BTW, did you read the article cited in the thread starter?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      BTW, did you read the article cited in the thread starter?

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                      @Jolly said in Experts:

                      BTW, did you read the article cited in the thread starter?

                      Well, yes - it's saying it's not the experts at fault, but the media. But that's not really answering the questions you raised.

                      Just because the press say somebody is an expert, doesn't make it true.

                      I was only joking

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                      • George KG George K

                        If you take population growth into consideration, the number of doctorates in 2020 is still three times what it was in 1958.

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                        @George-K said in Experts:

                        If you take population growth into consideration, the number of doctorates in 2020 is still three times what it was in 1958.

                        I agree that a lot of current PhD's areas of studies are kind of goofy, but I also think that one reason the number has gone up is that there are a lot more foreign graduate students now studying at US universities as compare to (for example) 1958.

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